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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein

    I know it is Hence why I was saying it was dodgey suject manner what a horrible child hood he had.

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    guy was a sicko for sure but the song still fn jams hard

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    Ohh ya def but see what organised and fantical religion can do to you Makes you go bat shit crazy

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    I dunno some Obituary stuff can be pretty hardcore and unreal imo. I was listening to Slipknot the other day if you look past all the teeny boppers that were into it back in the day it's not bad stuff to be honest.

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    Lol, that's weird man was on a Metallica buzz today. Was listening to all their albums. That is one of their all time great songs

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCI View Post
    Lol, that's weird man was on a Metallica buzz today. Was listening to all their albums. That is one of their all time great songs
    my fav!

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    Love Led Zep was listening to em yesterday actually great band and some proper deep and dark music if you listen to it properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCI View Post
    Love Led Zep was listening to em yesterday actually great band and some proper deep and dark music if you listen to it properly.
    one of the most important bands ever mate. i'd of sold my soul to satan for a ticket to that one off 02 gig they did in london afew years back

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    I know they are. They are great imo. Spectacular in so many ways just like Pink Floyd imo. Some of Floyd songs are mental but once you understand what it was like at the time it was cool to listen to their madness. Also The Straglers, Budgie and Sabbath are all cool bands

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCI View Post
    I know they are. They are great imo. Spectacular in so many ways just like Pink Floyd imo. Some of Floyd songs are mental but once you understand what it was like at the time it was cool to listen to their madness. Also The Straglers, Budgie and Sabbath are all cool bands
    never got into Floyd at all and couldnt ever see what the big catch was, id be on the dirtier renegade Hawkwind side of things when it comes to psychedelic. many will say Sabbath were the start of 'metal' although one could argue Hendrix was

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    I don't think Sabbath was the start of metal imo. There was bands out there at the same time that where just as heavy. Budgie google and look for black velvet stallion or if was britannia Id wave the rules, I like Floyd due to their spectacularly recorded albums and if you are driving for a long time and some music to listen to but also clear your brain too. I wouldn't be a die hard fan but I do enjoy listening to them. Hendrix is good but it all sounds slightly the same to me. But he does have some truly epic songs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCI View Post
    I don't think Sabbath was the start of metal imo. There was bands out there at the same time that where just as heavy. Budgie google and look for black velvet stallion or if was britannia Id wave the rules, I like Floyd due to their spectacularly recorded albums and if you are driving for a long time and some music to listen to but also clear your brain too. I wouldn't be a die hard fan but I do enjoy listening to them. Hendrix is good but it all sounds slightly the same to me. But he does have some truly epic songs.
    budgie were an underrated band for sure. Sabbath would have been recognised more for bringing it to the masses. Jethro Tull were considered the big outfit when Sabbath etc were getting going. infact, Tommy Iomi left Sabbath in their fledgling years for a stint with Tull but appar he couldnt get on with Ian Anderson, thank fvck he didnt get on with him lol.


    heres another band from that era

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yO7l...feature=fvwrel
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    That's fairly cool that song man. Yeh I heard that too. Tull where ok, some mad songs by them. I prefer the horslips to be honest its a better mix to be honest. Budgie are class imo. Sabbath I suppose are reknowned for bringing it to the masses as you say.

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    Zep and Floyd are among my all time favorites.

    As for the start of metal - yes, there were bands that were 'heavy' before there was heavy metal (and Sabbath). Blue Cheer, The Who, Deep Purple, King Crimson, Hendrix, Steppenwolf... etc

    BUT - I firmly believe Sabbath are responsible for metal 'proper'. i.e. there is heavy music (certainly alot of The Who's music is heavy, but they're not heavy metal. Same for alot of Zep's stuff)... and then there is heavy METAL. Sabbath brought that dirty, scary, satanic element to it... the music is undeniably HEAVY METAL.

    Imho of course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    Zep and Floyd are among my all time favorites.

    As for the start of metal - yes, there were bands that were 'heavy' before there was heavy metal (and Sabbath). Blue Cheer, The Who, Deep Purple, King Crimson, Hendrix, Steppenwolf... etc

    BUT - I firmly believe Sabbath are responsible for metal 'proper'. i.e. there is heavy music (certainly alot of The Who's music is heavy, but they're not heavy metal. Same for alot of Zep's stuff)... and then there is heavy METAL. Sabbath brought that dirty, scary, satanic element to it... the music is undeniably HEAVY METAL.

    Imho of course!
    too true. hard to believe that Saxon, Priest etc were once called New Wave Heavy Metal lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    sacrilege!!! on of my top 5 gigs was The Who, very heavy live, Daltrey's voice is still amazing. hard to categorize, bluesy rock imo

    feck off you, im only 36 lol
    Lol, 36 that's practically a lifetime away Yeh, I wouldn't call em metal or really heavy rock imo. But they certainly helped it along it's way like.

    @ GB next week I'll have to wheel Deccy in and out of the shops he's getting that bad

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    No need for IMHO here man. Everyones view is acceptable man. It's good to read other view points on this. I think you are right to a certain degree but I think the English bands as you mentioned a few above have had more of a influenece but to be fair the American bands made a better job of it imo.

    The Who's music is not that heavy imo. It's good but a bit hard to listen too also.

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    As for The Who... definitely not heavy by any other standards, but for a 60's band they were pretty heavy - mostly due to Keith Moon's drumming, and Roger Daltrey's often screamed vocals.

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    I know what you mean, they are one of the bands I have a few of their album but never could get into them for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCI View Post
    I know what you mean, they are one of the bands I have a few of their album but never could get into them for some reason.
    How old are you mate?

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    23 buddy I'm only a young buck. Like ye and Deccy who are clearly over the hill

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCI View Post
    23 buddy I'm only a young buck. Like ye and Deccy who are clearly over the hill
    Lmao, idk how old Dec is... but you're right about me!!!

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    Lol, Dec is older than you he's actually qualifying for the bus pass over here soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCI View Post
    Lol, Dec is older than you he's actually qualifying for the bus pass over here soon
    Lmao, senior citizen!!!

    Dec get the early bird specials at the diner too??!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCI View Post
    No need for IMHO here man. Everyones view is acceptable man. It's good to read other view points on this. I think you are right to a certain degree but I think the English bands as you mentioned a few above have had more of a influenece but to be fair the American bands made a better job of it imo.

    The Who's music is not that heavy imo. It's good but a bit hard to listen too also.
    sacrilege!!! on of my top 5 gigs was The Who, very heavy live, Daltrey's voice is still amazing. hard to categorize, bluesy rock imo

    Quote Originally Posted by DCI View Post
    Lol, Dec is older than you he's actually qualifying for the bus pass over here soon
    feck off you, im only 36 lol
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    lets not forget Megadeth

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    Quote Originally Posted by warchild View Post
    lets not forget Megadeth
    Meh... never dug them much. Mustaine is an amazing guitarist, but I couldn't get past his awful vocals. At the time, Metallica was just much better IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    Meh... never dug them much. Mustaine is an amazing guitarist, but I couldn't get past his awful vocals. At the time, Metallica was just much better IMO.
    me either, i think that is why they're always forgotten easily

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    I'm with WC on this. I like Megadeth

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    randomly came on my ipod for the 1st time in months whilst training tonight, fvckin ace!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u-HCHCuHMg

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    Savage choon Listening to that meself in the gym

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    max cavalera has soo many side projects, the guy is very musically talented. i wish the old line of sepultura would reunite since they suck now

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    Quote Originally Posted by warchild View Post
    max cavalera has soo many side projects, the guy is very musically talented. i wish the old line of sepultura would reunite since they suck now
    yep, ive seen em twice now with that big blaqck guy leading, just not the same at all. i think that 'red war' track is better than anything he ever did with sepultura tbh

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