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Good advice here, and from a lot of people. Once the cop smelled the weed though, your consent to search went out the window. If a cop sees or smells drugs or drug paraphernalia, you lose your right to give consent to his search or not. Even if he had given you a choice and you had refused, he likely would have detained you till they could bring in a drug dog. Anyways, good luck man, hope they go easy on you!Originally Posted by lovbyts
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but atleast there is a chance a lawyer can fight it. Once you give consent it doesnt matter
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A good attorney will tell you no matter what it is about NEVER say OK, don't admit to anything and as soon as you acknowledge your right SHUT UP. The cop is not your friend and they will say/do anything to get you to talk. If a cop finds something shut up. Dont say anything. Dont acknolege it, don't make excuses just let them process it and make bail or get the ticket.
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and you were goning to run eq and deca with no test?
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No i dont have substance abuse actually. So im not going to speak of why i had what, and no my stupid ass wasnt going to run eq and decca and not all are fortune to have a dr to give it up so i was coming from where i got. And havent had to many run ins with the police so standing their in cuffs i assumed it was to late. And no i dont expect everyone to b the same but being your not 18 i would assume you wilould c how many times someone used dumb so for you to repeat it serms dumb, although not as dumb as me. And im no 18 yr old and that has nothing to do with any of this because they are not all stupid either. And im npt the reason its hard on people.
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But still u still have good advice. At lawyer now
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hey man shit happens. Iv got a class B felony for manu/dist of meth. it was my first offence and they wanted to hang me out to dry, but my lawyer got it down to 5 years probation. No joke they are going to hit you with a B or C felony at the least. i dont care wtf your cycle was going to be or if you do or dont abuse adderall but i dont think you want to do fed time in the pen because you got pulled over as a kid with sum shit on you. what state are you in?
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Here's some good advice above. Do not EVER consent to a search. Ever. Ever. Ever. Also, in re: the acknowledgment of the Miranda warning, don't even acknowledge that. I assure you, you aren't going to persuade a cop out of an arrest but if you deprive him of PC then your chances at a warning increase. There is nothing gained by telling the cops anything without your attorney present even if you have to bind out to get to your counsel.
In re: an earlier comment to the effect that the cop would just have gotten a warrant: When a cop says "If you don't consent to a search then I'll call in a warrant", say "Okay, I'll be right here waiting and talking to my attorney, listening to the radio, etc...." Cops can't just "call in" a warrant but they can legally lie all day.
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Ive heard a lot from numerous people on the board about not consenting to a search of your vehicle. THIS IS PARTIALLY FALSE. Yes you can say not if they ask; however if they have cause to go in the vehicle....for example the weed they smelled.....then they can search without your permission.
If they pat you down and cuff you and find something in your pocket that is criminal they have cause to search your vehicle. They have a 1000 excuses in court they can use and they get away with it all day long.
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This is true ^^ specifically in Cali
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You are correct.
However there is a bigger picture for refusing consent to search on a couple of fronts from a defense attorneys standpoint. It is one more layer of burden of proof for the state to prove. There are other reasons as well.
Also it is imperative imo not to say a word - at all. When asked any questions (esp after they found something on you) you simply reply you wish to invoke your right to remain silent and right to an attorney. At this point the cops will ignore you and continue asking questions. To which you reply "officer this is now the 2nd time I have told you I wish to invoke my right to remain silent and to an attorney." The next step will be the cops lying to you saying they will only be able to "help" you if you cooperate. They also may tell you since u havent been read your rights they cant use anything you say against you. Total BS. Every time they continue to question you remind them " Officer this is the third, fourth,fifth time I have told you I wish to invoke my right to remain silent and to an attorney.
Then you will be taken before a judge - this is likely where u will be mirandized. The judge will ask you at this time if you understand the charges etc. At this point you say , on the record " Your honor I informed officer so and so x amount of times i wished to invoke my right to remain silent and to an attorney. However every time - right up to the time I was brought in here he continued to pressure and question me. I was under the impression after I informed him he wasnt allowed to continue to pressure question and harass me. Am I mistaken?"
Thed judge will set bail which will more often than not be high and then get reduced.
It is imperative U never say a word - never consent to anything - and get what i stated on the record and of course get an attorney.
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HOW TO FIND A GOOD LAWYER.
First of all...don't look in the yellow pages or online for an attorney. Talk to the dudes who have been in trouble in the past. My thinking is the Best bet to find a good referral to a good CRIM lawyer would be to visit a local AA or NA "morning meeting" (like 7 am)...and make friends with some of the older dudes who have been in trouble before and are now clean. DON'T go the evening meetings as they are occupied by loosers and still recovering users (in most cases). The mourning attendees have a job and most of them are successful recovering addicts. They will know some good criminal lawyers who won't rape you.
Take my word for it....at least 75% of those girls/guys in the AA and NA have been in the joint and know who the BAD LAWYERS are. "Some of them" will know who the GOOD LAWYERS are. Talk to them. It works JUST LIKE FAR FROM MASSIVE SAID....a good lawyer can make a lot this chit go away.
I've been in trouble before too....WAY BIGGER than this and come out clean. I was young and learned from my mistakes.
Its stressful as hell...but we all make mistakes bro...just chill out...My bet is you're not going to jail...a Good Lawyer can negotiate this to a Misdemeanor.
This is not a big bust.
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if you are convicted of a felony , it will make it extremely hard to find good employment ...notice the word extremely .. get a good lawyer it will be well worth the money!
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So true!
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A guy in Trenton got 6 yrs for having 3 vials of test last year.
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talk about being hung out to dry. Im sure more was involved in that case then 3vials like him having prior convictions and things lie that
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Go get a lawyer, bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been thru it. At your arraignment plead not guilty and get a lawyer---- NOT A COURT APPOINTED BUT A PAID LAWYER--- shouldn't be more than 2K for this ( they will work out a payment plan). All your charges will be bundled into one lesser charge, possession maybe, and will walk with probation. If they have a drug court in your district and have never been in trouble you may qualify and that will wipe it from your record. Just insist you are an addict. That's if you think you can go a year clean while being in a rigorous program. Good luck and relax!! KK
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That would be beyond stupid. You will probably cost yourself way more than 1500 if you do it yourself
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Wow, that is something.
Crazy shit, I feel like we all break the law in so many ways. But, at the same time we don't do anything wrong. WTF
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This is what I was afraid of, that the govt. is really starting to crack down on steroid use. Do you have a link or know the background to this story? Please tell me the guy already had a long criminal record or was on probation when caught with those 3 vials.
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Yeah no kidding. I really can't imagine it's for a 1st time offense.
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remember 1 vial is considered 10 doses. So if you have 3 vials its 30 doses. They dont care its 1 vial. So they say you have 30 doses of steroids its intent to sell
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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been looking for this, is this guy still around?
curious as to what happened with him being caught.
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The gear in (my personal experience) would have not been that big of deal for what you had. But with the weed ouch. Who knows how they will try to spin that. Get a lawyer and have him file a continuance and FAST ( meaning he will ask for more time to prepare). Good luck Oh find a lawyer who is WELL versed in drug charges I have two attorneys one is my conservative make nice Lawyer and my other is a bulldog sleeze ball. I own my own company and sometimes your need the sleeze ball to fight off crap lawsuits. And you would be AMAZED what they can do. And for the record I just got caught with gear 10yrs ago here in the midwest. No other drugs. Good luckk
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they must have locked him up..
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Man, get a lawyer... upon first reading your post I was going to say that the juice is the least of your worries, as posession of Adderall is what is going to kill you. But when you described the circumstances and elaborated on more details... we can't really help you here. The scope of your situation goes far beyond anabolic steroids. You need a lawyer.
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Jesus, didn't realize this thread is old and got ressurrected. Guy is probably long gone by now...
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Get a lawyer ASAP. Should be easy to beat if you havent been in much trouble before.
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Lol, this old. Evrybody keeps posting..
I was just bringing current to c if anybody knows what happened. But he hasn't been on since 3/14.
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Did you at least have a prescription for the adderal?
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This is an old thread. The op hasn't logged in since march. He will not answer questions. He will not provide details.
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lol ^^
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I just wish i could know if he got locked up.
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You definitely need to get an attorney. Steroid charges are no joke and in many ways more serious than recreational drug charges. There are a lot of courts out there that enjoy making examples of steroid users. I don't say that to scare you, it's simply the truth.
As far as the actual punishment, under federal law a first time offender charged with possession can receive a maximum fine of $1,000 and a maximum prison sentence of 1 year. However, that's federal law and each state also carries it's own sentencing guidelines, which can be harsher than the federal laws. You must also take into account the counts you're charged with. Under federal law 1 pill can equal one count as can 1ml or cc. You must also take into account prior arrest or convictions. If you have any prior drug related issues on your record you will more than likely not be considered a first time offender, even if the other charges were not steroid based...this will hold very true if the prior issues were of a Schedule III or greater nature. Other issues, you should also expect a fair amount of community service and at minimum 1-2yrs probation.
All that said, every now and then you'll find a court that's lenient and will show you mercy but this again depends on your prior record greatly and your cooperation with law enforcement as well as your attorney's competency.
Last thing, not hiring an attorney for any steroid related charge is insane! It is so easy for steroid charges and cases to spiral out of control. Rick Collins firm is one of the best. I know some may have doubts because he's seen everywhere when it comes to this topic...mags, boards, etc. but these guys can really help you and they really care about the outcome. More importantly, they actually understand steroid law whereas the vast majority of attorneys do not.
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Well crap, I didn't notice that before I made my reply. Well, I guess I'm a dumb ass, lol!
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Funny how no one looks at the post dates...perhaps he can't log on from the prison computer lol.
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lol^^
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LMAO
I thought convicts get it nice and comfy in prison these days? Xboxes, PS3s, and TVs in their cells? Why not a computer with access to an AAS forum?
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