2nd cycle,.....my 5 month plan!

[DigitalGorilla]

FYI - when you become an adult --- you will see how stupid the "you dont even need to exercise" sounds.... When i took off the first bout of weight I was running a hour a day then weight training..... so you definitly need it ...and one last thing. The AASi use are perfect for what I need - which is why it worked lol

You forget your talking to someone who ALREADY did this cycle. and have the pics to prove it all worked. So as of now - I am right - and if one day you are right - ill email you to let u know --- but as of now --- this cycle worked wonders for me. I mean come one - i look better than you do and Im 35 !!! My first push up was 4 years ago...and ive made amazing strides. So --- keep being a kid. Cause all adults know only a kid can see a fact and still fight it

[Sworder]

Basically the reason why you have to exercise and supply androgens is because your natural testosterone is being suppressed by your estrogen. You don't understand the physiological part and all this confusion is just making you radiate anger; instead of you trying to get a clue. Let me know how hCG works and if it doesn't suppress the pituitary LMAO. If you think you look better than I do good for you, I am not here to have a measuring contest. You metabolism is staggeringly simple to understand, androgen/estrogen ratio and thyroid levels will tell a good story.

I haven't said the cycle isn't working for you. I am saying you are taking risks that aren't necessary and I don't believe it is the healthiest plan of action.

[DigitalGorilla]

Again - it DIDNOT suprress anything ....... This cycle was done in AUg and Ive bounced back ...... but I will post a PIC of my BW tomorrow to prove it. Im at work now unmtil 5am or I would do it now. And you need to work out just to stay healthy. No matter what your test --- after 30 you need exercise.

And im not mad at all? I said - i understand now - your young. This type of attitude is expected.

[Sworder]

Again - it DIDNOT suprress anything ....... This cycle was done in AUg and Ive bounced back ...... And you need to work out just to stay healthy. No matter what your test --- after 30 you need exercise.
And im not mad at all? I said - i understand now - your young. This type of attitude is expected.

Ok look. OFF cycle. You have high BF. High BF = high estrogen. High estrogen suppresses testosterone. Your testosterone that is low; is low because you are being suppressed by your estrogen levels. If you would get your labs and look at your elevated estrogen and start taking an AI to reduce the estrogen your testosterone will rise. I don't know how else I can spoon-feed you this. It seems to be very hard for you to comprehend and this is the reason why I can't communicate with you. Because you have no clue what I am talking about..

[DigitalGorilla]

Ok look. OFF cycle. You have high BF. High BF = high estrogen. High estrogen suppresses testosterone. Your testosterone that is low; is low because you are being suppressed by your estrogen levels. If you would get your labs and look at your elevated estrogen and start taking an AI to reduce the estrogen your testosterone will rise. I don't know how else I can spoon-feed you this. It seems to be very hard for you to comprehend and this is the reason why I can't communicate with you. Because you have no clue what I am talking about..

You asked 2 times - i said both times - I ALREADY TAKE an AI...... and my test is still low - as is most men my age.

and my test was low cause im 35....lol not cause of any other reason. But again when u grow up you will learn this stuff

But honestly - all this over me not wanting to take clomid?? lol wtf???!

But Ive proven my points.....now its time to drive home. Good luck ..