Update pics. from first day to last day of cycle!

**BUYLONGTERM** · 02-29-2004, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by BuffGuy

Holy Hell Holes...

When I saw your first pic, I laughed and thought why the hell is this guy on juice.

Then I saw your transformation...holy moley man....you should go on a talk show or something ... like Jenny Jones and make-overs ...from bones to ripped

Nice progress...that is AMAZING. I must reiterate. I am amazed. Amazing. Shocking. Stunning. Wow. You the man.

THANK YOU. Remember, I did it SMART, and with a LOW DOSE. Thats the most important thing I can tell people. BE SMART. It's a long journey.......

**johnsomebody** · 03-17-2004, 10:24 AM

Hey BLT, do you mind if I throw in a few comments directed at the 18-21 year old age group? I've seen a lot of them refer to you as an example for them to follow when I think your case is very different from theirs.

If it's okay I'd like to point out a few things about BLT that 18-21 year old should keep in mind.

First, the "before" pic wasn't someone who'd just tried lifting for a few months and "plateaued", he'd tried for years to get in shape and it was the best he could do. There was a good reason for that -he has seriously low test levels and it was just the best his body could do with what he had to go on.

Second he's in his mid-thirties which means his test levels are well past the peak one has between 18-21.

It seems logical that a person with naturally low test levels will react especially well to exogenous test as BLT did -think about how receptive someone with low levels must be since their body's been trying to make do with little natural test for years. It must be something like someone with chronic hypothyroidism suddenly getting plenty of thyroid hormone. The results are going to be huge.

What I'm trying to say is I think BLT's situation isn't nearly comparable to a healthy 18-21 year old who wants to get big fast like BLT did. If your test levels are normal you're naturally getting year-round almost as must test as BLT got on his cycle. You're getting it free, no injections, and no Clomid needed. Do yourself a favor and learn how to grow naturally before you start looking at using gear.

If I'm out of line on this, BLT, just let me know and I'll correct or delete it but I wanted to chime in since I think you're of the same mind I am about this.

**BUYLONGTERM** · 03-17-2004, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by johnsomebody

Hey BLT, do you mind if I throw in a few comments directed at the 18-21 year old age group? I've seen a lot of them refer to you as an example for them to follow when I think your case is very different from theirs.

If it's okay I'd like to point out a few things about BLT that 18-21 year old should keep in mind.

First, the "before" pic wasn't someone who'd just tried lifting for a few months and "plateaued", he'd tried for years to get in shape and it was the best he could do. There was a good reason for that -he has seriously low test levels and it was just the best his body could do with what he had to go on.

Second he's in his mid-thirties which means his test levels are well past the peak one has between 18-21.

It seems logical that a person with naturally low test levels will react especially well to exogenous test as BLT did -think about how receptive someone with low levels must be since their body's been trying to make do with little natural test for years. It must be something like someone with chronic hypothyroidism suddenly getting plenty of thyroid hormone. The results are going to be huge.

What I'm trying to say is I think BLT's situation isn't nearly comparable to a healthy 18-21 year old who wants to get big fast like BLT did. If your test levels are normal you're naturally getting year-round almost as must test as BLT got on his cycle. You're getting it free, no injections, and no Clomid needed. Do yourself a favor and learn how to grow naturally before you start looking at using gear.

If I'm out of line on this, BLT, just let me know and I'll correct or delete it but I wanted to chime in since I think you're of the same mind I am about this.

Fantastic post bro!!!!! It is very true. It's not like I left that beach that day and started a cycle. I got in the best shape I could before hitting a cycle. I researched my tail off. I have always grown up with low test levels and obviously when I hit my mid 30's they were even worse. When I got my levels checked, I was at the bottom of the scale. I get PM's all the time from young people telling me I made amazing results and they can't wait to jump in. My response to them is this. I have to work twice as hard because of my situation. Guys seem to think STEROIDS are a miracle drug that get you big with the least amount of work. I busted MY ASS and I still have to bust my ass ED!!! IT's NO picnic. I've destroyed 2 shoulders in the process. I'd give anything to have high levels some of these young dudes have. Thanks JS!!!!

**Bound for Muscle** · 03-18-2004, 05:49 PM

what made you believe you had low test levels before you got them checked?

**BUYLONGTERM** · 03-22-2004, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Bound for Muscle

what made you believe you had low test levels before you got them checked?

You name it I had every symptom.

1. Low sex drive
2. Lack of motivation
3. Ability to concentrate
4. Tired
5. Irritable
6. Lack of body hair
7. Extremely hard for me to get size (lifting)
etc....

**johnsomebody** · 03-17-2004, 12:25 PM

You're welcome buddy!

**murfbaseball21** · 03-22-2004, 06:20 PM