its a 'mandate' but its actually not the 'LAW' per se.. it never passed congress nor a vote from the people. its unconstitutional.
sure they are enforcing it and getting people to believe its an actual 'real law' , but it has no validation or basis for being an actual law. they are just deceiving and taking advantage of the citizens.
a governor can't just speak a mandate and all the sudden that becomes a law. thats not how our republic works. but these dictator governors want people to think thats the way it is.
when this is all done and over with, a lot of these governors and mayors are going to get their asses sued big time, and things taken to the Supreme Court. especially once people wake up and realize how laws actually come to be laws in the first place,, and no its not though the governor
you are really some back woods yokel. You never heard of state law, or local law?
Most every law enforced on NYC streets is local law, for example drinking on the street, tresspassing in the park after dark, etc... Get cuffed and taken to jail if you have no ID for a summons. No involvement by congress whatsoever.
On a truly tragic note . . . . it’s f’n raining here. I mean wtf, I didn’t move here for this crap. At least I don’t have to go out today & get my car all spotted up.
You guys use any food delivery services, ours handles just about every place. I’m thinking lettuce wrapped cheese burgers & sweet potato fries for lunch before I hit triceps.
Cali was too busy trying to build bullshit solar plants that don't work and failed, investing in bullshit tech companies, faulty green energy, too busy militarizing the police force, too busy taking away peoples 2nd amendment gun rights .. spending money on bullshit , when they could of been prepping and beefing up their shitty medical system and hospitals all these years.
you wouldn't be low on PPE if you hadn't blown all your money on bullshit liberal left wing utopia programs.. you reap what you sow.
most states have more PPE then they need. cause these states don't have delusional corrupt green new deal whack jobs in leadership positions.
I had family that lived in Cali for years. but I am just speaking from observation from far away. nothing first hand, so I may just be talking a bunch of shit.
but a lot of people outside of Cali look at Cali with discontent. I know businesses that refuse to sell their goods to anyone who even lives in Cali..
Where I live, the biggest migrants into this state (and their are 100s and 100s of thousands of them) mainly come seeking refuge from California .. our biggest population is people who were born in this state, and the next biggest population are the people who moved here from California to escape its corruption.
Cali is a beautiful state, I've been there several times . but its got ugly corrupt leadership and policies imo . and thats why you all have no N95 masks, when the rest of the country has more then what we know what to do with
My wife works for one of the largest healthcare groups in the country. They are located in your state and Gallow’s state as well. Which means if they have mask shortages here, they’ll have the shortages there as well. Your facts regarding N95 masks are incorrect, because it’s not just this state or healthcare provider that has shortages. What exactly this has to do with your or anyone else’s views of this state are irrelevant. Your views of the state have nothing to do with my correct statement that these shortages can put peoples lives needlessly at risk, particularly if present actions increase the numbers. You’re as sloppy with your facts as you are in your concern for other’s lives.
I’ve stated repeatedly elsewhere that yes this has regional variances, but this is a pandemic & still a national issue.
I have no love or preference for one state over the next as I believe in the United States of America.
The fact of the matter is my wife, friends & other healthcare workers are in fact fighting an enemy that is not diminishing, but growing out here because of the rhetoric of those like yourself who are rightfully arguing for your rights, but selfishly putting others at greater risk that are fighting this battle on the front lines. I am speaking for them.
I personally don’t give 2 fucks for this state, it has its issues, but then again the other 49 states are not a nirvana as well.
Regarding rushing to get folks into a hospital that is fighting off virus such as this is actually negligent. The very last place that I want to be with an open wound from surgery is a hospital.
an N95 mask when bought in bulk is 58 cents ..thats it ! why is California short on N95 masks, yet had 10 billion in tax money they spent on testing out bullshit green energy programs that don't work .
my only point is that they obviously were not very frugal with their money and were more concerned with bullshit utopia dreams then actually taking care of their people, their healthcare workers, and their medical facilities.
heck the hospitals are half empty. and they still don't have enough masks . man they dropped the ball big time. live and learn. maybe they will drop the stupid utopia green deal bullshit and focus on their citizens and taking care of the health care system finally.
wake up call for the corrupt politicians there
Your knowledge on this topic is lacking. Like arguing with a ditzy broad - you bring up the random price of a mask that has nothing to do with the argument.
You say it’s just California - wrong again.
You say there is a shortage because they weren’t frugal with their money - wrong again.
The say having the hospital being half empty has some connection with the amount of masks - wrong again as the 2 have nothing to do with each other.
How the heck you think you know enough about healthcare to make the claims that you do is actually disturbing GH. I am starting to make this sound more personal than it is & I’m tryin my hardest not to, but you are arguing 1+ 1 = 3.
YOU are the one that said California doesn't have enough N95 masks .. ok I believe you. now tell me why. why do you have billions of dollars for bullshit programs and tons of money for corrupt politicians, but don't have enough 58 cent masks for your medical workers ??
The future employment prospects are much better For the field of green energy than the field production of N95 masks. It’s about jobs. If you lived in a state with more people than trees you would understand.
My experience online lately has been the more rural area you live and grew up in, the more likely you are to fall for conspiracy theories and general Fox News nonsensical grievances.
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you keep bringing up this "back woods" rural stuff .. like I live in the swamps or something.. come on, drop it.
I live in a high tech state, with 6 million people. huge tech start ups here, tons of money, the best economy in the country.
fine I live on a few acres.. but most of us here are wealthy and well educated and run hi tech businesses.
my house "in the woods"
oh and here are my 'swamp buggies"
I must be such an unsophisticated 'red neck' back woods swamp boy eh .. living in a million dollar house, driving any car I wanted, and spending most my days on the golf course conducting business.
and working out at the local country club.
I live in a pretty high tech well off area. we are far from 'back woods'![]()
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just answer the question for me then ..
how is it you had billions to spend on green energy bullshit that doesn't work. but don't have enough cheap ass masks for your hospitals?
its a simple question
instead of telling me how much I don't know ,, just enlighten me then
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The topic is Covid-19 and you are adding your agenda against green energyand where the fuck are you getting 58 cents? They weren’t that cheap for purchase nationally pre-Covid?
There are shortages in availability, simple as that. And once again it’s not just California. What you don’t hear as well, is the masks are used for too long a period (due to shortages), thus further putting workers at risk. Ideally all public service employees and essential workers should be supplied them, but again, not enough are out there.
My wife and her friends (and thousands like them) are very good people GH. They are willing to put their lives at risk for others. Forgive me, but I don’t believe these are communistic or left wing traits, nor should they be taken lightly and brushed aside. Your sensitivity and concern for them is very touching and is commendable.
well geesh, I'd hate to see what would happen if a real pandemic actually hit California, rather then this "baby pandemic" where your hospitals are only at 30% capacity and maybe 2900 people is all that have died in the last 6 months .
can't imagine how ill prepared you'd all be if a major pandemic hit and your hospitals were actually at full capacity and 100s of thousands of people were really ill and dying in LA county.
so maybe this is a wake up call to better prepare your medical systems and equipping your nurses and doctors before something worse happens in the future..
give up the bullshit money wasting programs and start focusing on your medical systems and front line workers
edit -- I'm being serious . perhaps this is a wake up call for states to focus on taking care of its citizens and preparing its front line workers and medical systems and stop spending tax payer money on bullshit and political corruption
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Baby pandemic, that is a classic, just like your “facts” and numbers you randomly pull out of your ass. Just keep spewing the bull-shit GH, the smell is not coming from California, but your mouth. It’s called a pandemic GH and it’s called that for a reason. Your fixation on one state is pointless.
the Spanish flu of 1918 killed 18 million .. thats a pandemic. so why can't I consider this a baby pandemic being it has barely killed a small fraction of that.
don't you have the same statistics that I have ? are you living in a delusional wine filled world of exaggeration, or are you living in reality where the stats are only a small fraction of a major pandemic ???
Are you sure it was 18 million from the “flu? I mean the record keeping and data was significantly more advanced and trustworthy over a hundred years ago, and oh yes it happened during a fucking world war! I’m sure that had absolutely nothing to do with the numbers dead. I mean hell, if you’re going to question these numbers let’s have some fun with 1918’s accuracy.
Now you are misrepresenting the english language. A pandemic is designated based on the area coverage of the outbreak, not the numbers who died.
Where do you get the idea that it can only be a pandemic if millions and millions die? Its simply not true. You set up a straw man, that you then can easily knock down. It is a non serious form of argument.
another post I mentioned NY was limited to just 3 stores basically people could go to ... and you thought I literally meant 3 specific stores, in a city of 6 million people you really thought I meant 3 literal stores in the entire city were open . LOL, thats hilarious.
your one of the most clueless people I've ever seen. its hilarious really
say what you mean and mean what you say. You have the laziest literary style of writing I have ever encountered. Every other post you write is "No, I actually meant to say this..., No, i really meant that...".
Organize your thoughts beforehand and be concise when you post, so you dont need to follow up with corrections and explanations for everything you post. Your lazy writing style causes your posts to appear to appear very ambiguous.
I've already proven that its actually your brain thats lazy .. all anyone has to do is look through the threads you started to realize this.
you accuse me of being a "red neck" back woods hick .. yet I'm probably 10x as successful in my short life as you are, and 20x smarter . yet "I'm the red neck back woods dumb ass" .. lol, you are hilarious .
thats all you got left now eh . ridicule my writing style ,, lol you are unreal . grasping at straws now.
you could never beat me at anything in your life, ever. never could stand close to me in anything.
heck , now that we've proven I am far more successful, have far superior intellect and knowledge. have more discipline to study the facts.
now lets see who has the better physique .
come on post something up , lets see what you got .
lets see who picks up the sexier women too while we are at it
I'm just messing with you now . but you got to lose this idea that I'm some red neck living in the swamps, you have not got a clue about me
If you read my posts over time, you would see that I admit that I am 220 lbs, all fat, zero muscle. I have no psysique. I havent touched a weight since high school gym class 40 years ago. I am just an older guy on TRT due to hypogonadism caused by long term prescription medication use. Again, a straw man argument on your part.
I wont comment on the women due to the fact that one or both (depending on your state) may be your wife. But you would aslo know by reading my posts that skinny and pale are not on my list of hot looks.
I dont know where you live, but I see it is very different from where I live and grew up. To each his own. I like to be near civilization. 5 minute drive to whatever I might need to buy. walk to public transportation to get to the center of the city, the capital of the world, in my opinion.
I dont think bad of you. I am just messing with you on this thread. our different outlook on life is likely due to our different life experience. It is interesting to me to hear the points of view of others from different areas of the country. Its when folks political opinions go against their self interest that I wonder where the disconnect is.
you kept calling me a 'swamp' red neck.. a hick. surrounded by more trees then people. a hillbilly, etc.. which I don't even find insulting at all. red necks are the most noble of all people on the face of the planet.
I paid it no attention.
BUT then you called me "EUROPEAN" and essentially non American. thats the shit I took offense to.
I showed pics of my successful life,, coming from a poor family, working my way up the blue collar trades and building an empire for myself and my family and employing lots of people just to prove to you I was a true American, no damn European .
it wasn't to "brag". it was just to back up what I say, work hard be smart study everything and help other people and care for other people and success will follow.
why am I ridiculed for that.. now I'm a bragger asshole just cause you forced me to prove to you I wasn't what you thought I was and some swamp thing or European faggot.
now I'm a bad guy for backing up my success being a red blooded hard working American.. !!?? wtf
next , two hot Latina women with curves and round asses .. now you want to say "skinny and pale is not your thing" ,, lol, your ridiculous, you know that right .. the exact opposite of skinny and pale , is Latinas with curves.
omg, are you delusional ? seriously.. I know you probably need help with your TRT , but seriously, you may need mental help for real
and you keep bringing up this , you live next to the epicenter of society in the city ,, and I still supposedly live in the woods.
wtf, where you getting this delusion from.
look, I live minutes away from the national forest and millions of miles of the most open space mountains in the country in one side of me.. I also live next to two awesome golf courses, a country club, and multi million dollar homes all around me.. everyone drives a Tesla or a 4matic Mercedes or Range Rover. . down the road from me is 3 military bases, the Air Force academy , the strongest national command center military base on the planet.. also NASA and lockeed Martin .. a bicycle ride will get me to tons of buildings that do nothing buy high end technology research.
my neighbors are retired Air Force and generals..
I'm not in the 'sticks'.. um I can ride my bike to a super wal-mart and a Home Depot ,, I nationally recognized hospital and cancer center.. an airport with some of the best private jets in the country.
I could go on and on.
the porsche dealer here is the biggest porsche dealer in the country . we supply more Porsches then anyone else. want a ferrai instead. um yeah thats just up the road.
I don't get this bullshit you have in your head.. that you live close to NY city and that makes you special somehow . !!! that place is a slum. you have people living on the streets and dying homeless inside of subways. you live in a hell hole, you yet you brag about it.
your delusional .. you need to come experience real American success and freedom
I gave a list of about twenty different types of stores that folks could go to. There are not 3 at all. Even your attempts at exaggerations dont hold water.
Almost every reply of yours is "I didnt mean this, i meant that". Its getting kind of repetitive. Just tale a minute to think before you post.
Do you like this speech from this movie? I’ve modified it a bit here.
You want them in those hospitals, you need them in those hospitals. They use words like honor, code, loyalty, and you’re using their sacrifice as some punchline for your freedom gun-toting rallies. They would rather you would say thank you and be on your way. Otherwise I suggest you get your butt treating possibly 16 or more infected patients per day courtesy of your freedom campaigns and stand your post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you’re entitled too!
Prox- with all due respect- you stated we don’t have enough tests. SD has set a record each of the last three days for testing.
I find it hard to believe that we are setting records and the rest of the state doesn’t have enough.
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Charger - are you sure you didnt go to school with gearhead? What does setting a record do with having enough? I could be saving money to buy a house costing $700,000. Every day I could be saving a few dollars more than the day before. I could be setting records every day, and yet still never save enough in years to buy the house.
Not here to fight or argue. It appears the limitation is not testing.
Just think about it. Why can’t people get time sensitive operations? It’s not because of testing, but rather politics. IMO.
I was able to get a test within a day, but it took 2 fucking weeks to get the director of the hospital to approve my time sensitive operation.
No disrespect, but I have actually been through the situation and have been in a hospital about 10 times in the past month.
I respect the people that use a mask and actually need to enforce it because of the county order at work. I personally disagree.
It’s because they want as few non-Covid people in the hospital, as to protect them from exposure. Don’t you have other conditions that might be factored in as pre-existing conditions making you potentially more susceptible. Your weight also puts you into the obese category, plain & simple. The doctor has to clear these hurdles with his superiors.
Good luck with your surgery, hopefully you’ll spend as little time there as possible.
Charger, the testing capacity is improving, but again there are regional discrepancies, ok? I’ve said this, just like I’ve said there now needs to be a varied approach to reducing the stay at home policies. Ournumbers are still climbing. My wife and others will be treating out-patients this week, because of the push to open things up, some of that is due to the freedom and rights protests and rhetoric. To know for sure as a care giver, you would have to have tests for everyone. That’s frightening & unfair to the caregiver, these what if’s. Temperature taking is not a sure thing in determining if a patient is infected. However at this time to have everyone tested prior to coming into therapy (or other services) is simply not in place, nor could that have been anticipated and planned for prior.
I'm not the leader of anything on this board .. I just know this board is filled with really good guys, quality people, and people that respect each other.
you've been here a short time and have been fairly disrespectful on a lot of occasions to several different people. guys see that. thats why I'm saying your likely not going to get much help (thats just a guess on my part, nothing more).
on a side note -- its going to start with a bit of 'crushing pressure' type of feeling. like something is heavy on your chest. then your heart rate is going to start ramping up and beating fast. then your going to start to worry and get anxious. then your going to think it feels difficult to breath (even though your o2 level will be just fine)..
then your going to think about me . depending on what those thoughts are , I may or may not stop squeezing your doll![]()
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