Cycles for the Newbie

[smmrsm2000]

from a newbie thanks for the info

[Hlywudguy]

Incredible! As a "newbie"... Thank you! Any experience with Enantato 350??

[falcons 84]

good cycle plan.

[KiHLa]

STUPID QUESTION but i have to know clomid and nova are taken orally right?

[Streaker]

Thanks

[mastapimp]

i did my research b4 i started my 1st cycle.
im 6ft. 23 yrs old. 11.4% body fat 176 lbs
i just want to get cut so im taking a cycle of winny
with a good diet and the gym 6 days a week just doin abs and up
want to know how long it will take to get pretty cut
doin 1ml every other day, inject
like i said im a beginner and dont want to be big just cut
any advice???? would be much appreciated. Thank you whom ever..

[Auto54]

i did my research b4 i started my 1st cycle.
im 6ft. 23 yrs old. 11.4% body fat 176 lbs
i just want to get cut so im taking a cycle of winny
with a good diet and the gym 6 days a week just doin abs and up
want to know how long it will take to get pretty cut
doin 1ml every other day, inject
like i said im a beginner and dont want to be big just cut
any advice???? would be much appreciated. Thank you whom ever..

1) You should start your own thread.

2) You need to do more research!

3) At 6', only 176lbs, and 11.4% bf (how did you come up with that?), you should already be cut!

4) One ml of what? That says nothing (see #2). I can get winny in 50mg/ml, 100mg/ml, and 125mg/ml.

5) Winny needs to be done every day, not every other day.

Back do the drawing board for ya, pal. Sorry.

[method]

SWEET, this is a A+++ nice help without me asking some dumb questions. Laid out in plain english. Nice work man.

[LatinoPR]

kool

[pattymac931]

good post for newbies

[digitalje5u5]

great post. Very helpful.

[digitalje5u5]

STUPID QUESTION but i have to know clomid and nova are taken orally right?

Yes.

[2bshredded]

I've learned more in the last 3 days here than I have 4 over the last couple of months tryingto figure out wtf to do with my draggin arse, tell you what I'm primed and ready to get big....always been a bad mf...just lacked the hugeness. hahahahah

Marty

[kif]

Thanks bro this thread has helped a ton

[bob101]

Hello, does anyone kno whether andriol can be taken on its own without being in a cycle with other steriods? And can it also be taken with whey protein, creatine and zma without it being inturpted... Please help

[spowers1]

I'm another annoying newbie with stupid questions, I have been doing all the research I can though, I am on my fourth week with d-bols, that is all, about 25-30 mg a day. I 've heard I must stop d-bol for 4 weeks now, making a cycle, I have Deca, and Sustanon on the way, can I start it right away, or do I need to wait the 4 weeks, at start I weighed 135 at 5'10, benched 145 max once, Now end of 3rd week, weigh 143 and max bench 170 once, but pulled something in my shoulder doing it! I feel like these d-bols give my muscles enough energy to just rip them apart. I am 30, have been lifting off and on for years, never have had results like I am now! I have seen SO MANY different cycles and they all seem to conflict each other as far as what I'm using, some say d-bol 60 mg up to 10 weeks, others say never ever go over 4, I feel safe at 30 mg 4 weeks, but what next? Thank you for any advise! Steve My email is [email protected]

[mr. snakes]

Cycles for the Newbie

Written by TheMudMan


Here are some cycles to consider for a first time user of AAS. All cycles should be based off of test. But before jumping into one of theses cycle please do your research. Remember with the good comes the bad. The bad being side effects from the use of AAS. I will not go into them here but if you do your homework you will know what sides you may see and how to avoid them.

I’m a firm believer in starting anti-estrogens 2 weeks prior to the start of the cycle. This will allow more then enough time to get blood levels peaked. Also, I would also suggest running a SERM (Nolvadex) and AI (arimidex, proviron, femera) together through the cycle.

These are just a few of the many combinations of compounds that can be used in a first cycle. I feel that D-bol, EQ, and Winny are all very good to add to a first cycle to help things along but they are not necessary. I also feel that a long acting ester test is best for a first or even a second cycle. The reason is because of the amount of injections that are required by SUS, Prop, and Suspension.

Below is the PCT protocol I use for most cycles. You could add 4 grams of Tribulus into PCT. There are plenty of studies that show the use of Tribulus will help increase LH levels. This is why it’s a good idea to use during the cycle as well.

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

Cycle 1:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 2:
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 18 days after last Cyp injection

Cycle 3:
1 – 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 4:
1 – 4 D-bol 40mg ED
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 18 days after last Cyp injection

Cycle 5:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 6:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 18 days after last Cyp injection

Cycle 7:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
11 – 12 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection

Cycle 8:
1 – 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
11 – 13 Prop 75mg ED
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection

Cycle 9:
1 – 13 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 EQ 500mg/wk
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Cycle 10:
1 – 12 Cyp 400mg/wk
1 – 12 EQ 400mg/wk
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 weeks after last Cyp / Enan injection

Cycle 11:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 1 day after last Winny injection / dose

Cycle 12:
1 – 10 Cyp 400mg/wk
8 – 13 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 1 day after last Winny injection / dose

You forgot the Dbol only cycle. There's nothing wrong with a oral only cycle. Moderate dose/moderate amount of time, you'll be fine...Alot of newbies are doing it these days. I did it myself when i was a newbie.........................

[*Narkissos*]

You forgot the Dbol only cycle. Alot of newbies are doing it. I did it when i was a newbie.........................

He didn't forget anything

that cycle is garbage.

[bob101]

hi i want to start a cycle of dbol and winny, but the cycle is a pre made one you can buy on the internet, it doesnt contain an anti estrogen either, so do you recon i should make up another cycle with nolvadex or sumthing included or just continue with this one as i will not get any side effects without an anti estrogen? sorry to sound dumb

[TheMudMan]

hi i want to start a cycle of dbol and winny, but the cycle is a pre made one you can buy on the internet, it doesnt contain an anti estrogen either, so do you recon i should make up another cycle with nolvadex or sumthing included or just continue with this one as i will not get any side effects without an anti estrogen? sorry to sound dumb

Did you even read anything I wrote?

[bob101]

Yeh i have read what you wrote.... but remember im a beginner i dnt kno what u is going on about with all of those steriods names... i just wanna kno which is the best to take to get big, fast gains which last and are not fluid retained muscles, and the safest and cheapest way to do it, so if anyone knows a great first cycle and can tell me it in simple terms that would be great!, thanx

[TheMudMan]

Yeh i have read what you wrote.... but remember im a beginner i dnt kno what u is going on about with all of those steriods names... i just wanna kno which is the best to take to get big, fast gains which last and are not fluid retained muscles, and the safest and cheapest way to do it, so if anyone knows a great first cycle and can tell me it in simple terms that would be great!, thanx

You have a lot of reading to do. I outlined most if not all of what a beginer would need to set up and run a safe first cycle. If you can't understand what was written then you need a lot more time here researching before running a cycle.

[REaL TALk]

Hi i am 19 and very interested in starting a cycle. I am 175 pounds with probly 15% body.. i want to gain some size but my most concern is to get riped. i Have never seen all my abs. I am lookin for a cycle that i can gain a bit of size and get really riped but i really dont wanna get acne from this.. please give me advice
thanx

[Triposinator]

Wishful thinking

But dreaming is fine

good post, oughta stop alota same old newbie posts

[Johnny Gotti]

That was some good info printed it!

[Foo Man]

Is the ldex neccessary? I've got everything ready but that.

[TheMudMan]

Is the ldex neccessary? I've got everything ready but that.

Depending on the dosages and how sensitive you are to estrogen related sides the answer is no. If you only have nolva then run 20mg ED through the cycle and PCT.

[OldTimer74]

Hey all. Just logged in and wanted to say thanks and hopefully confirm some advice. I am a first timer but most likely much older than most of you all. I am 36 6'2" and 228lbs. BF is about 20 (I was MUCH heavier -fat- and have trained to this point for 3 years). I am currently in week 1 of my first cycle. I actually got the blood tests and have a professional helping me but I seem to see conflicting reports. I began with a week of Anastroz (estrogen blocker). Then began a daily 2IU of HGH and a weekly 250 Sust-Test/200Deca as well as 50mg Whinny every other day. Monday will be one full week. Whinny shots make me very sore. Everything else is ok. Will do a full course of pct. when 10 weeks is over. Any advice is appreciated.

[Ferich7465]

Im really interested in learning more about sterioids. If anyone has any books to consider or internet sites, very helpful thanks., I havent tried them yet but i have had my chances. I did quit lifting after i was done with college football. The questions that i have is, should i get back into shape first before i start taking them? I was told that Sterioids burn fat, and how well? Reason for this question is becuse of the beer gut. And what types of steroids do you recomend for use. Thanks for your time.

[GoldieTheMack]

Subscribing.
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[TheMudMan]

Im really interested in learning more about sterioids. If anyone has any books to consider or internet sites, very helpful thanks., I havent tried them yet but i have had my chances. I did quit lifting after i was done with college football. The questions that i have is, should i get back into shape first before i start taking them? I was told that Sterioids burn fat, and how well? Reason for this question is becuse of the beer gut. And what types of steroids do you recomend for use. Thanks for your time.

Click the link to the Anabolic Steroids Research Book in my signature. Great book for beginer and everyone else.

[kesh227]

Hey Mudman,

Which anti-estrogen do you recommend running two weeks before the cycle, and should I continue this through the cycle along with a-dex and nolva or discontinue it once the cycle commences and do what you outlined in your post? Also, what do you think about letro? Thanks for some solid advice.

[lolo69247]

thx!! needed to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheMudMan]

Hey Mudman,

Which anti-estrogen do you recommend running two weeks before the cycle, and should I continue this through the cycle along with a-dex and nolva or discontinue it once the cycle commences and do what you outlined in your post? Also, what do you think about letro? Thanks for some solid advice.

I run what ever anti-e's I would be running in the cycle prior to the start. Yes use them through the cycle as well.

Letro should be used in cycles where the compounds will aromatize agreat deal........ or if you are gyno prone letro is a safe way to go. Down side is that letro could suppress libido and also the estrogen rebound from letro is great when discontinued.

[tyayo]

hey vey detailed post i am have done one cycle before im 5"8' 180
I have 23 amps of sust wanted to shoot for 10 weeks every third day and the last four weeks winny at 50 mg/day. What should I add to this. Liquidex? what will this do for me. plus i dont want to go bald

[F4iGuy]

Good stuff, I like the hollistic approach

[tden0923]

Nice post MudMan. It seems alot of members here dont believe in front loading on injectables and slowly tapering down. I've heard mixed opinions about this. What do you think? Anyone..

[TheMudMan]

Nice post MudMan. It seems alot of members here dont believe in front loading on injectables and slowly tapering down. I've heard mixed opinions about this. What do you think? Anyone..

This is just my opion but I think you get more for your money using a oral to jump start the cycle rather then front loading. You will see results in strength and weight (depending on the compound used) with in days.

But since this was written for the "newbie" I wouldn't suggest front loading in a first cycle.

[rdavenport]

Right, this might sound REALLY stupid, but...

I'm doing a Sustanon 250 - 8 week cycle, 2 shots per week, so:

If I'm training a 4-day split, (Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri), is it best to inject the Sus on a Monday and a Thursday before the gym to get the best effect. I.e. does the Sus get into the body immediately, or does it take a day(?) to take affect and be useful?

I imagine everyone reading this will concur with me when I say that I want to try and make sure I'm getting the best out of my time at the gym, and rest times.

Any comments would be most appreciated.

Thanks.

[walkfast]

TheMudMan
thank you for so good informations.