You'll want to read this!

[Pkk]

there are alot of great post on this site but id have to say this takes the cake. thank you alot

[Noone_Incognito]

Okay, I hit my search button function and was immediately overwhelmed by a lot of stuff with the same drug names and nothing to do with my question so I decided my situation might be (possibly) slightly unique enough to justify a consult from a guru.

Background: Once upon a time I hurt my rotar cuff right before going to work on a fishing boat in Alaska. I did d-bol 10mg per day 1 wk, 20mg per day 1 wk, 10mg per day 1 wk, in order to build up the muscles around the injury and increase my RBC to (I hoped) speed healing. No real reason I chose d-bol, it was just easy to get. I gained about 15lbs then lost all gains when I came off. Felt GREAT on it.

Fast forward 15 years. I have a small tumor on my pituitary gland. Long story short, my natural tes is low because of this. The doctor put me on testosterone micronized in cream form. 30mg a day--a pretty conservative dose from what I've read. It's worked great. My own tes was below the threshold mark for "average" before; now I'm in the top 3/4 brackett for the "average" range. After 6 months I'm as strong as I was in my late 20's, I've lost belly fat and with DINO/Hard gainer style workouts I'm happy enough.

But I'm just "on" the tes and will be for the long haul it seems. It occurred to me that perhaps since I'll never be "off" (unless the tumor grows so much it's removed surgically) that a cycle or two of AAS per year might not be bad. Also, I'm going to be working overseas and the common consencous seems to be that a large % of contractors are juiced.

So my question is this: in your opinion, what would be a good way to approach my supplemental cycles? Should I just use my tes 30mg per day straight through and add in a second AAS for 6-12 weeks before going back on the simply tes 30mg OR should I go off the tes 30mg, do a 6-12 week cycle of an AAS then go back and use my "stored up" tes cream in increments 30mgx3 per day day then 30mgx2 per day until I'm back at my regular 30mg per day?

Also I'm thinking of using the d-bol. I felt great on it, got almost immediate results but I did loose all gains and I've since heard many people stating they don't like d-bol. My goal is increased size and strength with cosmetic concerns being a distant second.

Thanks for letting me bounce this off you--I appreciate it.

[magaton]

Okay, I hit my search button function and was immediately overwhelmed by a lot of stuff with the same drug names and nothing to do with my question so I decided my situation might be (possibly) slightly unique enough to justify a consult from a guru.

Background: Once upon a time I hurt my rotar cuff right before going to work on a fishing boat in Alaska. I did d-bol 10mg per day 1 wk, 20mg per day 1 wk, 10mg per day 1 wk, in order to build up the muscles around the injury and increase my RBC to (I hoped) speed healing. No real reason I chose d-bol, it was just easy to get. I gained about 15lbs then lost all gains when I came off. Felt GREAT on it.

Fast forward 15 years. I have a small tumor on my pituitary gland. Long story short, my natural tes is low because of this. The doctor put me on testosterone micronized in cream form. 30mg a day--a pretty conservative dose from what I've read. It's worked great. My own tes was below the threshold mark for "average" before; now I'm in the top 3/4 brackett for the "average" range. After 6 months I'm as strong as I was in my late 20's, I've lost belly fat and with DINO/Hard gainer style workouts I'm happy enough.

But I'm just "on" the tes and will be for the long haul it seems. It occurred to me that perhaps since I'll never be "off" (unless the tumor grows so much it's removed surgically) that a cycle or two of AAS per year might not be bad. Also, I'm going to be working overseas and the common consencous seems to be that a large % of contractors are juiced.

So my question is this: in your opinion, what would be a good way to approach my supplemental cycles? Should I just use my tes 30mg per day straight through and add in a second AAS for 6-12 weeks before going back on the simply tes 30mg OR should I go off the tes 30mg, do a 6-12 week cycle of an AAS then go back and use my "stored up" tes cream in increments 30mgx3 per day day then 30mgx2 per day until I'm back at my regular 30mg per day?

Also I'm thinking of using the d-bol. I felt great on it, got almost immediate results but I did loose all gains and I've since heard many people stating they don't like d-bol. My goal is increased size and strength with cosmetic concerns being a distant second.

Thanks for letting me bounce this off you--I appreciate it.

Welcome to the site. I suggest you start your own thread.

[Ronnie Rowland]

okay, i hit my search button function and was immediately overwhelmed by a lot of stuff with the same drug names and nothing to do with my question so i decided my situation might be (possibly) slightly unique enough to justify a consult from a guru.

Background: Once upon a time i hurt my rotar cuff right before going to work on a fishing boat in alaska. I did d-bol 10mg per day 1 wk, 20mg per day 1 wk, 10mg per day 1 wk, in order to build up the muscles around the injury and increase my rbc to (i hoped) speed healing. No real reason i chose d-bol, it was just easy to get. I gained about 15lbs then lost all gains when i came off. Felt great on it.

Fast forward 15 years. I have a small tumor on my pituitary gland. Long story short, my natural tes is low because of this. The doctor put me on testosterone micronized in cream form. 30mg a day--a pretty conservative dose from what i've read. It's worked great. My own tes was below the threshold mark for "average" before; now i'm in the top 3/4 brackett for the "average" range. After 6 months i'm as strong as i was in my late 20's, i've lost belly fat and with dino/hard gainer style workouts i'm happy enough.

But i'm just "on" the tes and will be for the long haul it seems. It occurred to me that perhaps since i'll never be "off" (unless the tumor grows so much it's removed surgically) that a cycle or two of aas per year might not be bad. Also, i'm going to be working overseas and the common consencous seems to be that a large % of contractors are juiced.

So my question is this: In your opinion, what would be a good way to approach my supplemental cycles? Should i just use my tes 30mg per day straight through and add in a second aas for 6-12 weeks before going back on the simply tes 30mg or should i go off the tes 30mg, do a 6-12 week cycle of an aas then go back and use my "stored up" tes cream in increments 30mgx3 per day day then 30mgx2 per day until i'm back at my regular 30mg per day? the cream is weak so go off it and run some aas then go back on the cream 2-3 times per day to maintain as much gains as possible. also i'm thinking of using the d-bol. I felt great on it, got almost immediate results but i did loose all gains and i've since heard many people stating they don't like d-bol. My goal is increased size and strength with cosmetic concerns being a distant second. test/tren/d-bol is hard to beat for size/strength but start with test only for a first time cycle. D-bol can affect your sex drive and cause lethargicness. Test only is hard to beat. Do 750 mgs per week! thanks for letting me bounce this off you--i appreciate it.

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[JuliusPleaser]

hey ronnie....im coming up to my final DELOAD of my 20 weeker slingshot... im must say, i am very very happy with the results...contrary to what most people believe, this is really great compared to the old, come off and on equal time...

my concern is however, i do wanna recover naturally so i was thinking do to my final deload of 250 test with PROP instead of enanthate as i have been doing...thus i can get the drugs out of my system faster, and begin a 1 month PCT of aromasin and hcg....then i will jump on another STS cycle...what do u think?

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey ronnie....im coming up to my final DELOAD of my 20 weeker slingshot... im must say, i am very very happy with the results...contrary to what most people believe, this is really great compared to the old, come off and on equal time...

my concern is however, i do wanna recover naturally so i was thinking do to my final deload of 250 test with PROP instead of enanthate as i have been doing...thus i can get the drugs out of my system faster, and begin a 1 month PCT of aromasin and hcg....then i will jump on another STS cycle...what do u think? That will be fine..I answered this question already but it must have not posted..sorry for the delay!

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[Noone_Incognito]

Okay. I thought this was an "ask the guru" running thread--so if I pulled a hijack much apologizes all around.

[ricky23]

hi ronnie, sorry for all the questions but is muscle atrophy common in the tricep with pec tears? my left tricep is still big but the tricep on my injured side is really flat and almost half the size even though the tear is in the pec/bicep area. surprisingly the bicep is still big but it could be the swelling. is there anything i could do? thanks so much

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ronnie, sorry for all the questions but is muscle atrophy common in the tricep with pec tears? my left tricep is still big but the tricep on my injured side is really flat and almost half the size even though the tear is in the pec/bicep area. surprisingly the bicep is still big but it could be the swelling. is there anything i could do? The nerves that are related to your pectorals share some common origins of the radial nerve which feeds the triceps. Therefore, it's probable you over stretched the nerve further up in the brachial plexus. These types of injuries take time to heal.

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[SomeRandomGuy]

I am in the middle of my 20 week STS. 3rd injection, Week 12, running 1g Test E, 800mg Deca. I listened to your recommendations about a 16 week cutter. I have the stuff coming. Should I continue the STS 20 Weeker and then start a 16 week cut after a 2 week deload at the end of 20 weeks?

Also I found a side effect of so much juice. I can't orgasm very easily. Increasing Cabergoline dose to .5mg EOD upon recommendation, what do you think? Also my testes even with the 250 i.u. HCG 2x/wk are nowhere near full size. They stayed large on the first 8 weeks, but not anymore. Clomid seems to work wonders for bringing them back if I stop, I think even after a 16 week cycle they will come back. Should I continue with HCG maintenance and/or use 1500 i.u.'s EOD for a week at the end?

[Ronnie Rowland]

i am in the middle of my 20 week sts. 3rd injection, week 12, running 1g test e, 800mg deca. I listened to your recommendations about a 16 week cutter. I have the stuff coming. Should i continue the sts 20 weeker and then start a 16 week cut after a 2 week deload at the end of 20 weeks?I WOULD IN ORDER TO GIVE YOUR BODY A BREAKAlso i found a side effect of so much juice. I can't orgasm very easily. Increasing cabergoline dose to .5mg eod upon recommendation, what do you think? keep caber at .05 mgs twice a week and drop the deca as it's the deca delaying you sexually! also my testes even with the 250 i.u. Hcg 2x/wk are nowhere near full size. They stayed large on the first 8 weeks, but not anymore. Clomid seems to work wonders for bringing them back if i stop, i think even after a 16 week cycle they will come back. YES THEY WILL Should i continue with hcg maintenance and/or use 1500 i.u.'s eod for a week at the end?yes and you can go to 2500

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[kingcream]

Hey, I was thinkin about tryin my first cycle of roids to bulk up but i really dont know much about steroids.. I was thinkin about getting this package..can anyone help me out ? What type of gains can i expect w this stuff and what can i expect after im off of it ? will my weight decrease significantly if so is it really worth it then ?.. Im currently 5'10 145lbs and tryin to get to 180 or anything higher

My diet will during the cycle be 4000+cal/day circa200g protein i try to get to this daily right now but work/school keep me busy and dont have time to make food..

Training Includes
Mon:Chest/Tri/Abs
Tue:Back/Bi
Wed:Legs/Shoulders/Abs
Thu:Chest/Tri
Fri:Back/Bi/Abs
Sat: Legs/Shoulders
Sun: Off



2 x Deca 250 (Decca 250)
2 x Trenbolone (Finaplix) 75 (Tren Fina 75)
2 x Dianabol (D-bolic)





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Week Decca 250 D-bolic Tren-Fina
1 2 caps/day 2 caps/day 2 caps/day
2 2 caps/day 2 caps/day 2 caps/day
3 3 caps/day 3 caps/day 3 caps/day
4 3 caps/day 3 caps/day 3 caps/day
5 4 caps/day 4 caps/day 4 caps/day
6 4 caps/day 4 caps/day 4 caps/day
7 1 caps/day 1 caps/day 1 caps/day
8 1 caps/day 1 caps/day 1 caps/day

This amazing cyle will put on mass fast! Use these mass bulking compounds with a good bulking diet and you'll get big. Many users report fast gains and good long term mass increase within the first 2-4 weeks. If you have a smaller frame, this is a cycle for you.

[The Titan99]

Hey, I was thinkin about tryin my first cycle of roids to bulk up but i really dont know much about steroids.. I was thinkin about getting this package..can anyone help me out ? What type of gains can i expect w this stuff and what can i expect after im off of it ? will my weight decrease significantly if so is it really worth it then ?.. Im currently 5'10 145lbs and tryin to get to 180 or anything higher

My diet will during the cycle be 4000+cal/day circa200g protein i try to get to this daily right now but work/school keep me busy and dont have time to make food..

Training Includes
Mon:Chest/Tri/Abs
Tue:Back/Bi
Wed:Legs/Shoulders/Abs
Thu:Chest/Tri
Fri:Back/Bi/Abs
Sat: Legs/Shoulders
Sun: Off



2 x Deca 250 (Decca 250)
2 x Trenbolone (Finaplix) 75 (Tren Fina 75)
2 x Dianabol (D-bolic)





British Dragon Gear products *.

By clicking Add To Cart, you agree to our Disclaimer and Terms of use.


Week Decca 250 D-bolic Tren-Fina
1 2 caps/day 2 caps/day 2 caps/day
2 2 caps/day 2 caps/day 2 caps/day
3 3 caps/day 3 caps/day 3 caps/day
4 3 caps/day 3 caps/day 3 caps/day
5 4 caps/day 4 caps/day 4 caps/day
6 4 caps/day 4 caps/day 4 caps/day
7 1 caps/day 1 caps/day 1 caps/day
8 1 caps/day 1 caps/day 1 caps/day

This amazing cyle will put on mass fast! Use these mass bulking compounds with a good bulking diet and you'll get big. Many users report fast gains and good long term mass increase within the first 2-4 weeks. If you have a smaller frame, this is a cycle for you.

This has got to be a joke... If your 5'10" and weight 145 lbs you should try some foodralone. Awesome for weight gain!!

[kingcream]

This has got to be a joke... If your 5'10" and weight 145 lbs you should try some foodralone. Awesome for weight gain!!

Haha. I know man. I do eat but the most ive got up to is 158 then had a bad couple weeks was really sick and i came down to 145.. It took me a lot of work to get up to 158 then to lose that much weight in a couple weeks really gets to me.. Im tired of being the skinny guy.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey, I was thinkin about tryin my first cycle of roids to bulk up but i really dont know much about steroids.. I was thinkin about getting this package..can anyone help me out ? What type of gains can i expect w this stuff and what can i expect after im off of it ? will my weight decrease significantly if so is it really worth it then ?.. Im currently 5'10 145lbs and tryin to get to 180 or anything higher

My diet will during the cycle be 4000+cal/day circa200g protein i try to get to this daily right now but work/school keep me busy and dont have time to make food..

Training Includes
Mon:Chest/Tri/Abs
Tue:Back/Bi
Wed:Legs/Shoulders/Abs
Thu:Chest/Tri
Fri:Back/Bi/Abs
Sat: Legs/Shoulders
Sun: Off



2 x Deca 250 (Decca 250)
2 x Trenbolone (Finaplix) 75 (Tren Fina 75)
2 x Dianabol (D-bolic)





British Dragon Gear products *.

By clicking Add To Cart, you agree to our Disclaimer and Terms of use.


Week Decca 250 D-bolic Tren-Fina
1 2 caps/day 2 caps/day 2 caps/day
2 2 caps/day 2 caps/day 2 caps/day
3 3 caps/day 3 caps/day 3 caps/day
4 3 caps/day 3 caps/day 3 caps/day
5 4 caps/day 4 caps/day 4 caps/day
6 4 caps/day 4 caps/day 4 caps/day
7 1 caps/day 1 caps/day 1 caps/day
8 1 caps/day 1 caps/day 1 caps/day

This amazing cyle will put on mass fast! Use these mass bulking compounds with a good bulking diet and you'll get big. Many users report fast gains and good long term mass increase within the first 2-4 weeks. If you have a smaller frame, this is a cycle for you.

You are severely over-training-hence the reason you cannot put on muscle weight. Decrease training to 3-4 days per week and make more gains naturally before considering steroids.

[sadmir]

i started my first cycle of anabolic steroids when i was 16 , is that bad ?

[The Titan99]

i started my first cycle of anabolic steroids when i was 16 , is that bad ?

[Ronnie Rowland]

i started my first cycle of anabolic steroids when i was 16 , is that bad ?

yes!

[ricky23]

hi ronnie, would igf-1 be good to take to stop muscle atrophy? my entire right side has shrunk from the torn pec including my arm and even rear delt, or is it just a matter of getting blood back into those areas with light movements.
thanks

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ronnie, would igf-1 be good to take to stop muscle atrophy? my entire right side has shrunk from the torn pec including my arm and even rear delt, or is it just a matter of getting blood back into those areas with light movements.
thanks

Nothing is probably going to stop muscle atrophy from nerve damage but once it heals getting blood in the area will help. My legs have atrophied due to permanent nerve damage in my back (I do not feel your injury is permanent) and my legs will never be the same even though I work them very hard!

[delta1111]

Hey Ronnie,
I have done many cycles and never really been entirely happy with the results. I have considered many factors, like training technique, diet, aas dosage, length of cycles ect.

I have come to the conclusion that my problem is, I just don't eat enough. I have always managed to get my daily protein right, but a lot of this is from powder. I know its not as good as real food but I wanted to know your thoughts on this.

I also supplement with pasturised liquid egg whites that I just mix with a bit of powder for flavour. Are these egg whites as good as real cooked food? Also please consider that I consume about 1kg of these per day, which makes up 100g of my daily protein intake. Am I wasting my money on these?

I need help in establishing that food intake is my problem, as I really don't enjoy force feeding myself.

In your opinion what is the most important factor in building mass in order of importance from the following: aas, training technique, diet?
The reason I mention training technique is because I often see people at my gym who have terrible form, yet are huge and very strong. They are also carrying bodyfat which leads me to believe they eat a lot, hence my conclusion that food, or lack of it, is my main issue.

I always use good form as I think its important for avoiding injury.

Some people really enjoy eating and some people don't. Unfortunately i'm one of those who don't. Is this my problem?

I'm gonna post this on the main forum aswell, to see what other have to say, if thats ok.

[JuliusPleaser]

hey ronnie, i think u missed my post on page 52, if you could guide me with ur words of wisdom i would greatly appreciate it, as i already do now with my results..thank u greatly

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey Ronnie,
I have done many cycles and never really been entirely happy with the results. I have considered many factors, like training technique, diet, aas dosage, length of cycles ect.

I have come to the conclusion that my problem is, I just don't eat enough. I have always managed to get my daily protein right, but a lot of this is from powder. I know its not as good as real food but I wanted to know your thoughts on this. Use liquid egg whites mixed with carb master yougurt (can get at krogers) for added muscle growth. Protein powder is not optimal IMO and I rarely use it now a days.
I also supplement with pasturised liquid egg whites that I just mix with a bit of powder for flavour. Are these egg whites as good as real cooked food? yes Also please consider that I consume about 1kg of these per day, which makes up 100g of my daily protein intake. Am I wasting my money on these? absolutely not!I need help in establishing that food intake is my problem, as I really don't enjoy force feeding myself. neither do I but it's the only way I can make gains and I have to take in six meals per day. Peanut butter and jelly sandwhiches help me along with the egg whites.In your opinion what is the most important factor in building mass in order of importance from the following: aas, training technique, diet? 1st is genetics, training,steroids,diet are about equal in importance as it takes all 3. The reason I mention training technique is because I often see people at my gym who have terrible form, yet are huge and very strong. They are also carrying bodyfat which leads me to believe they eat a lot, hence my conclusion that food, or lack of it, is my main issue. You can still get huge using poor form but most people tear their joints up in the process. You must add some bodyfat to gain muscle. I always use good form as I think its important for avoiding injury.

Some people really enjoy eating and some people don't. Unfortunately i'm one of those who don't. Is this my problem? yes, take something to help stimulate your appetite like b-12 and you may have to eat more junk food (like fast food you love) to put on weight and a bit less protein if you cannot stomach it.
I'm gonna post this on the main forum aswell, to see what other have to say, if thats ok.

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[The Titan99]

Ditto for me (post 2072) but no hurry at all Ron. We all know your busy so anytime is fine by me. This is the best advice on the web, free or not. Thanks for everything!!!

[Jumbo18]

Hello Ronnie, I would like your opinion regarding my current cycle:

I am running
Weeks 1-8 Test enanthate 500mg/week
Weeks 1-8 deca 500mg/week
Weeks 1-8 aromasin 12.5mgEOD

I am 4 weeks in and my current stats are 210lbs, 5'10, 15% bodyfat. I want to be able to get to 10% bodyfat so I can maintain that for future cycles to minimize sideeffects from E2 related issues. In the second reload, would I be able to cut while gaining a few lbs of muscle with something like this:

Weeks 8-10 Test enanthate 250mg/week
Weeks 10-18 Test enanthate 300mg/week
Weeks 10-14 Clen 100mcg/day
Weeks 14-18 Tren 100mg/EOD

Would it be fine to do something like this, but how would you change things around? in terms of doses etc.

[Ronnie Rowland]

hello ronnie, i would like your opinion regarding my current cycle:

I am running
weeks 1-8 test enanthate 500mg/week
weeks 1-8 deca 500mg/week
weeks 1-8 aromasin 12.5mgeod

i am 4 weeks in and my current stats are 210lbs, 5'10, 15% bodyfat. I want to be able to get to 10% bodyfat so i can maintain that for future cycles to minimize sideeffects from e2 related issues. In the second reload, would i be able to cut while gaining a few lbs of muscle with something like this:

Weeks 8-10 test enanthate 250mg/week [b](keep test to at least 500 mgs per week-750 even better and run tren at 100 eod through 8 week reload) current cycle is too weak! [/b
]weeks 10-18 test enanthate 300mg/week
weeks 10-14 clen 100mcg/day
weeks 14-18 tren 100mg/eod

would it be fine to do something like this, but how would you change things around? In terms of doses etc.

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[The Titan99]

Thanks again Ronnie. I'll implement immediately.

[Yellow]

Hi ron,

I have finished 30 weeks slingshot cycle (3 reloads and 3 deloads). Now, I am on last week of time OFF ((I did 10 weeks OFF (doing 1 reload and 1 deload naturally) consists of 4 weeks PCT and 6 weeks time OFF)).
After the PCT, I took OTC testosterone booster (week 5-10) until I start another 30 weeks slingshot cycle. Is that bad? Should I take a break for a while (not taking anything) before doing another cycle?

This weekend I am gonna do bloodwork before recommencing the slingshot cycle again.
Next week is gonna be my start of 30 weeks slingshot cycle.

NB: I did take HCG during my 30 weeks slingshot cycle. My PCT consisted of combo of clomid and nolva.

Many Thanks, Ron...

[VASCULAR VINCE]

bigron...do type2 fibers work less during high rep work sets.... of lets say 12-15..... or say type1????

[Ronnie Rowland]

bigron...do type2 fibers work less during high rep work sets.... of lets say 12-15..... or say type1????

If I understand you correctly, the answer is no. The type-1 fibers tire out first then the type-2 fibers kick in last when doing 12-15 reps.

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ron,

i have finished 30 weeks slingshot cycle (3 reloads and 3 deloads). Now, i am on last week of time off ((i did 10 weeks off (doing 1 reload and 1 deload naturally) consists of 4 weeks pct and 6 weeks time off)).
After the pct, i took otc testosterone booster (week 5-10) until i start another 30 weeks slingshot cycle. Is that bad? they are not going too do you much good after using real steroids. I would leave them alone. Should i take a break for a while (not taking anything) before doing another cycle?i doubt the otc test boosters hurt you so it's okay to start back.this weekend i am gonna do bloodwork before recommencing the slingshot cycle again.good!next week is gonna be my start of 30 weeks slingshot cycle.

Nb: I did take hcg during my 30 weeks slingshot cycle. My pct consisted of combo of clomid and nolva. that's fine but next time you could just stick to using hcg alone given an anti-es was not used while on cyclemany thanks, ron...

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[Yellow]

Hi ron,

I have finished 30 weeks slingshot cycle (3 reloads and 3 deloads). Now, I am on last week of time OFF ((I did 10 weeks OFF (doing 1 reload and 1 deload naturally) consists of 4 weeks PCT and 6 weeks time OFF)).
After the PCT, I took OTC testosterone booster (week 5-10) until I start another 30 weeks slingshot cycle. Is that bad? they are not going too do you much good after using real steroids. I would leave them alone.Should I take a break for a while (not taking anything) before doing another cycle?i doubt the otc test boosters hurt you so it's okay to start back.

This weekend I am gonna do bloodwork before recommencing the slingshot cycle again.good!
Next week is gonna be my start of 30 weeks slingshot cycle.

NB: I did take HCG during my 30 weeks slingshot cycle. My PCT consisted of combo of clomid and nolva.that's fine but next time you could just stick to using hcg alone given an anti-es was not used while on cycle

Many Thanks, Ron...

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Many Thanks for the advice and help, ron. I would do as you said.

My bloodwork results mainly come back good.
#Lipid panels are normal : HDL is 37mg/dl (normal lab reference > 30mg/dl), LDL is 102mg/dl (normal lab reference < 130mg/dl).
When on cycle, the HDL was only single digit and LDL was 150-ish (because I was using orals for all 3 reloads).
#My testosterone level is high : 1347ng/dl (normal lab reference 300-1200ng/dl).
Before the 30 weeks slingshot cycle, my testosterone level was 951ng/dl (I had done about 4-5 cycles before my test level was tested at 951ng/dl).

But there are some concerns :
My liver panels are still a bit high than normal :
-AST : 50 (normal lab reference < 35)
-ALT : 70 (normal lab reference < 45)
Do you think it's a problem?
When on cycle, they were about 150-ish and 170-ish
(because I was using orals for all 3 reloads).

My renal panels are a bit high too :
-Creatinine is 1.2mg/dl (normal lab reference 0.9-1.2mg/dl).
It's at the high normal borderline. Do you think it's still good?
-Blood Urea Nitrogen (BUN) is 26 (normal lab reference 7-20mg/dl).
Is that bad? Do you think my kidney can't work properly?
Should I reduce my protein intake? (I take in about 275gr of protein per day)
(I have been lifting and having high protein diet for 8 years)

Thanks for the time, ron...

[Ronnie Rowland]

many thanks for the advice and help, ron. I would do as you said.

My bloodwork results mainly come back good.
#lipid panels are normal : Hdl is 37mg/dl (normal lab reference > 30mg/dl), ldl is 102mg/dl (normal lab reference < 130mg/dl).
When on cycle, the hdl was only single digit and ldl was 150-ish (because i was using orals for all 3 reloads).
#my testosterone level is high : 1347ng/dl (normal lab reference 300-1200ng/dl).
Before the 30 weeks slingshot cycle, my testosterone level was 951ng/dl (i had done about 4-5 cycles before my test level was tested at 951ng/dl).

But there are some concerns :
My liver panels are still a bit high than normal :
-ast : 50 (normal lab reference < 35)
-alt : 70 (normal lab reference < 45)
do you think it's a problem? it's not a problem per se but just to play it safe i would use orals only every other reload or reduce the dosages. when on cycle, they were about 150-ish and 170-ish
(because i was using orals for all 3 reloads).

My renal panels are a bit high too :
-creatinine is 1.2mg/dl (normal lab reference 0.9-1.2mg/dl). thats quite normal for people who lift weights.
It's at the high normal borderline. Do you think it's still good?
-blood urea nitrogen (bun) is 26 (normal lab reference 7-20mg/dl).
Is that bad? Do you think my kidney can't work properly?
Should i reduce my protein intake? (i take in about 275gr of protein per day) not during reloads but yes during deloads. (i have been lifting and having high protein diet for 8 years)

thanks for the time, ron...

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My blood urea nitrogen (BUN) is 26mg/dl (normal lab reference 7-20mg/dl).
It's a bit high. Do you think it's bad, ron?

Does the high protein diet cause it?

Yes, I do take in aprroximately 275gr of protein per day.
But during deloads, I take in about 150gr pf protein (half amount of intake during reloads) and increase carbs...

[VASCULAR VINCE]

one more ron....are dips...n....close grip...necessary for tris...or best to do extensions for mass?????

[Ronnie Rowland]

one more ron....are dips...n....close grip...necessary for tris...or best to do extensions for mass?????

Extensions and pushdowns are best given you already do shoulder presses and chest press which work the triceps hard. Dips and close grip are basically mimicking chest and shoulder presses and doing them in addition is pretty much redundant and can cause joint problems from over use.

[djdizzy]

Hi Ron, what a wealth of information this thread has been. I noticed more info on the cutting diet and not on the bulking diet. It might just be common sense but I was wondering if you might go into a little more detail (sample menu like you did for the carb cycle diet Post #17 and foods to consider eating while bulking. I forget what post# but you listed sample proteins, carbs, fats and seasonings but I think this was for the cutting diet as well) Like in Post #2094 you mention : Peanut butter and jelly sandwhiches help me along with the egg whites

I think the bulk diet was meant for Post #15 but that says In Construction and Post 16 is the fat loss plan

Thanks for your time!
Dizzy

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hi Ron, what a wealth of information this thread has been. I noticed more info on the cutting diet and not on the bulking diet. It might just be common sense but I was wondering if you might go into a little more detail (sample menu like you did for the carb cycle diet Post #17 and foods to consider eating while bulking. I forget what post# but you listed sample proteins, carbs, fats and seasonings but I think this was for the cutting diet as well) Like in Post #2094 you mention : Peanut butter and jelly sandwhiches help me along with the egg whites

I think the bulk diet was meant for Post #15 but that says In Construction and Post 16 is the fat loss plan

Thanks for your time!
Dizzy

I am unable to copy/paste in microsoft word at the present but will get back to this question when I get it up and running.

[djdizzy]

Hi Ron, what a wealth of information this thread has been. I noticed more info on the cutting diet and not on the bulking diet. It might just be common sense but I was wondering if you might go into a little more detail (sample menu like you did for the carb cycle diet Post #17 and foods to consider eating while bulking. I forget what post# but you listed sample proteins, carbs, fats and seasonings but I think this was for the cutting diet as well) Like in Post #2094 you mention : Peanut butter and jelly sandwhiches help me along with the egg whites

I think the bulk diet was meant for Post #15 but that says In Construction and Post 16 is the fat loss plan

Thanks for your time!
Dizzy

Hi Ron, just checking to see if you ever got your Copy/Paste thing figured out? Thanks and have a happy new year!

[chrisx]

Hey Ron long time no talk!

I'm about to order my gear but first wanted to run my Blasting Plan by you to make sure it looks good. Here it is let me know what I need to change if anything...

**MY 'BLASTING' PLAN**
PHASE 1
Reload: Weeks 1-8 Test 500mg
Deload: Weeks 9-10 Test 250mg, hc 500iu per week (2/250iu a week during this first deload)

PHASE 2
Reload: Weeks 11-18 Test 750mg
Deload: Weeks 19-20 Test 250mg

PCT: Weeks 21-25 (1 week after last test injection)

HCG at 500iu ED for 14days (probably for 18days just to use the whole bottle)
Nolva 20/20/20 (for first 3 weeks of pct)
Aromasin 2.5mgs a day for last 2 weeks (weeks 24 & 25 to prevent estrogen rebound when coming off of Nolva)

*IF I FEEL ANY SIGNS OF GYNO DURING CYCLE*
Wait 1-2 weeks after seeing first symptoms to see if it goes away. If not, then Aromasin at 2.5mg per day for 2 weeks then switch to .5mg eod (if possible)

WHAT YOU THINK RON AM I GOOD TO GO???