Upstates SD Log

[UpstateTank]

Hey Upstate...I was wondering you used this as a bulk...but if you were to use it eating a maintenence how do you think your body wouldve reacted...Im debating on a Superdrol/Clen cycle for cutting while id be eating 2200-2400 a day with alot of am cardio...I would be throwing in the clen to prevent catabolism and the superdrol to possiblly get some lean gains out of it nothing crazy maybe 4-8 pounds while dropping 2-4% bf. So basically im asking is if you think the superdrol could be effective in a possible cut.

Thats a really good question and I dont have an answer for it. I guess I only like to give responses based on my own personal experience and since I've never cut using SD before I couldn't give you a "good" answer. My hunch is you could still get some solid gains off SD while eating at maintenence. I've heard of people using SD to cut and they got good results from it so I dont see why not.

[CoreyTampa09]

Great....then maybe you can answer this...which supporting supplements now that you've done your cycle would you recomend..and at which dose do you think it would be better now that youve expierienced it.

[UpstateTank]

Great....then maybe you can answer this...which supporting supplements now that you've done your cycle would you recomend..and at which dose do you think it would be better now that youve expierienced it.

I'd reccomend all of them. As far as dosing goes I cant really give a definitive answer for that cause everyone is gonna have a different reaction side effect wise to sd. For me the doses were enough--i never got any headaches, elevated heartrate, elevated bp, nose bleeds etc. For a good base I'd say start your doses what I outlined in the first post of this log then adjust as your body tells you to do so.

On a side note- backpumps pick up some taurine and run that at 1g/day
and prostate pain-saw palmetto 1g/day

[CoreyTampa09]

Thanks man. Just curious did you feel your midsection leaned up a bit at all considering you were eating alot of calories..im just basing this on if I do 6 am cardio sessions etc etc

[UpstateTank]

Thanks man. Just curious did you feel your midsection leaned up a bit at all considering you were eating alot of calories..im just basing this on if I do 6 am cardio sessions etc etc

Sadly thats not the case for me. Looking back I wish I had done 6am cardio cause I put on a lil bf during the cycle which was because of my diet not the sd...This week I'm gonna try and motivate myself to get up for 6am cardio sessions

[CoreyTampa09]

Dang you didnt do any am cardio...if I could get half of ur LBM gains while reducing BF% 3% I will be very happy. I definately think I could achieve my goals with all that cardio at my clean diet. Just curious those supporting liver/BP supplements get pricey when all together...where do you reccomend me purchasing mine?

[UpstateTank]

Dang you didnt do any am cardio...if I could get half of ur LBM gains while reducing BF% 3% I will be very happy. I definately think I could achieve my goals with all that cardio at my clean diet. Just curious those supporting liver/BP supplements get pricey when all together...where do you reccomend me purchasing mine?

I got them from a supplement warehouse thats actually located in my hometown...if you want the website shoot me a pm..It was kinda on the pricey side for everything if i recall correctly it was around 85-90 bucks total which is a lot up front but its enough to last about 8 weeks

[CoreyTampa09]

Well I would only be needing half that since my PCT is my TRT therapy.

[UpstateTank]

Well I would only be needing half that since my PCT is my TRT therapy.

lucky duck

[RydersWanted]

Thanks a Ton guys. I'm 2 weeks into my cycle of SD, and Milk Thistle, and I'm a noob about this mixing chemicals together to get the best gain from them, of course not getting the dreaded Gyno. possibly could u guys suggest another Chemical that would maximize my muscle growth with SD? Oh and One last thing, after Ur cycle you then are supose to take that PTC? N my question about that is it's estrogen right.. so will i get girl boobs, Cause I'm pretty sure I wanna stick with the Pecks I got now.

[UpstateTank]

Thanks a Ton guys. I'm 2 weeks into my cycle of SD, and Milk Thistle, and I'm a noob about this mixing chemicals together to get the best gain from them, of course not getting the dreaded Gyno. possibly could u guys suggest another Chemical that would maximize my muscle growth with SD? Oh and One last thing, after Ur cycle you then are supose to take that PTC? N my question about that is it's estrogen right.. so will i get girl boobs, Cause I'm pretty sure I wanna stick with the Pecks I got now.

I'm still a lil confused on what exactly you're asking but I'll do my best.
As far as mixing in anything w/ SD...don't. SD is a very powerful compound on its own and doesn't need anything "extra" that would make it "work better"

And as far was PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) you run it after you're done with your cycle. PCT shouldnt be thought of as a product but rather as something you do after running a cycle of steroids to restore your bodies natural test levels amongst other things. There are many things that can be used for pct...nolva clomid aromasin etc. For SD I'd reccomend clomid + aromasin for pct. As far as pct "being estrogen", it is in a very literal sense...products such as clomid and nolva would provide "all the benefits of estrogen and none of the side effects" (taken from pct forum stickies)...I'd suggest you go hit up the pct forum hardcore cause it doesnt sound like you understand what pct is and how to properly do it.

Hope that helps bro!

[RydersWanted]

Thanks Upstate, ya saved my ass. btw I got the Clomi, But when I get off of my cycle how much do I take?

[UpstateTank]

Thanks Upstate, ya saved my ass. btw I got the Clomi, But when I get off of my cycle how much do I take?

not a problem bro!

dosage wise go:
Week 1 & 2: 105mg/day
Week 3 & 4: 70mg/day

and take it right before you go to bed.

good luck!

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

not a problem bro!

dosage wise go:
Week 1 & 2: 105mg/day
Week 3 & 4: 70mg/day

and take it right before you go to bed.

good luck!

Is there a reason why before bed?

Also, hows the PCT working?

[UpstateTank]

Is there a reason why before bed?

Also, hows the PCT working?

Not sure as the reason why but basically everywhere I read about pct timing said to take right before bed

PCT is working great...My strength continues to increase and I'm still gaining weight (at a much slower rate)...I was 215.9 the other day when I weighed myself

[matt50]

everything is looking good...started my SD cycle yesterday (monday, 10/16)...waiting for it to fully kick in...had a new best in leg press- 10x530 did 10x500 last week so i was pretty pumped. also felt like i had a little more left in me...hoping to get some nice gains like you did.

[UpstateTank]

no workout 2day....stoopid midterms

[matt50]

no workout 2day....stoopid midterms

booooo lol

[UpstateTank]

booooo lol

i kno right?

cant wait for f'in legs tommorow

and im sure you're pretty pumped about chest

[matt50]

i kno right?

cant wait for f'in legs tommorow

and im sure you're pretty pumped about chest

yea i had a great workout the other day with my legs, chest is in about an hour so i'm getting pretty pumped

[CoreyTampa09]

I start mine on Monday...Still debating if im gunna run clen with it or not..I may just start it week 4

[UpstateTank]

dammit all you bastards runnin sd right now are making me jealous!!!!

[matt50]

didn't jump weight just yet....BUT on the bench when i was donig 90 lb dumbbells last week with a spotter forcing me to get them up....today i did 6 reps un assisted whereas last week i had 4 reps that were all assisted...awesome work out and def pumped thru out it!!!

[UpstateTank]

didn't jump weight just yet....BUT on the bench when i was donig 90 lb dumbbells last week with a spotter forcing me to get them up....today i did 6 reps un assisted whereas last week i had 4 reps that were all assisted...awesome work out and def pumped thru out it!!!

glad to hear it...its only the beginning bro just wait!

*filled with envy*

[matt50]

this past week i almost threw up....sorry to hear about the aromasin

[UpstateTank]

Friday October 20th: Arms

Barbell Curl SuperSet Closegrip Bench
45x10(warmup)..............................95x15(w armup)
45x10(warmup...............................95x15(w armup)
95x7.............................................. ....185x7
105x6............................................. ...195x6
115x4............................................. ...205x5

Alternating Dumbell Curl SuperSet SkullCrushers
45x7.............................................. .....................85x9
45x6.............................................. .....................90x7
45x5.............................................. .....................95x4

HammerCurl SuperSet Rope Extensions
40x9..........................................55x8
40x7..........................................60x7
40x6..........................................65x6
40x5..........................................70x5 dropset 30x15

Forearms
Front Barbell curl SuperSet Standing-Behind-the-back-curl
105x10............................................ x 10
105x9............................................. . x8
105x7............................................. ... ..x7

had another solid workout today. strength still continues to maintain wasnt pissed off today when i got to the gym like i was last friday so it seemed my intensity was down a tad but nonetheless i was content with the workout i had

[matt50]

did u do any cardio while on the SD or did u skip it ???

[UpstateTank]

did u do any cardio while on the SD or did u skip it ???

ive skipped it thus far, but hopefully this week upcoming im gonna try and fit it in 3x a week

[UpstateTank]

Monday October 16th: Chest

Incline "Smith" Machine--15 degree incline again
50x10(warmup)
50x10(warmup)
180x6
185x4
185x4 dropset 90x12

Cable Crossovers
70x10
70x9
70x7
70x7 drop set 40x12

Dumbell "Scoops"
25x10
30x8
32.5x7
32.5x7 dropset 20x12

Wide grip dips (silly weight belt is broken so i could only do bw)
bwx18
bwx17
bwx15
bwx15

Had another great workout today. It was my first time ever doing dips for chest, dont really know why i didnt incorporate them before but I will from now on. Strength is still maintaining and my weight was down about 2 pounds cause i was home for break and didnt eat enough

[Columbus]

Monday October 16th: Chest

Incline "Smith" Machine--15 degree incline again
50x10(warmup)
50x10(warmup)
180x6
185x4
185x4 dropset 90x12

Cable Crossovers
70x10
70x9
70x7
70x7 drop set 40x12

Dumbell "Scoops"
25x10
30x8
32.5x7
32.5x7 dropset 20x12

Wide grip dips (silly weight belt is broken so i could only do bw)
bwx18
bwx17
bwx15
bwx15

Had another great workout today. It was my first time ever doing dips for chest, dont really know why i didnt incorporate them before but I will from now on. Strength is still maintaining and my weight was down about 2 pounds cause i was home for break and didnt eat enough

this weasier on your shoulder bro? Mine is KILLING me, and I prob. should take the week off, however I might give this a shot....

[UpstateTank]

this weasier on your shoulder bro? Mine is KILLING me, and I prob. should take the week off, however I might give this a shot....

for me it is...anything that really doesnt incorporate my stabilizers alot is manageable on the pain scale...I took last week off and I have chest today so i'll let you kno how that goes

[UpstateTank]

Tuesday October 24th: Back

WideGrip Pulldowns
120x10 (warmup)
120x8(warmup)
180x7
180x6
195x5 dropset 120x10

Deadlifts
155x8 (warmup)
225x4 (warmup)
365x6
365x5
365x3

Cable rows-bar
150x7
165x7
180x6
180x6 dropset 135x7

Lawnmowers
60x9
70x8
75x7
80x5

Workout wasnt up to par today. I got to bed late and then was woken up when my roommate got back from work and had a hard time falling asleep after. Had to drag my ass outa bed and into the gym this morning Tonight ill get a better nights sleep to blast shoulders tommorow

[D-Bo Dre]

Tuesday October 24th: Back

WideGrip Pulldowns
120x10 (warmup)
120x8(warmup)
180x7
180x6
195x5 dropset 120x10

Deadlifts
155x8 (warmup)
225x4 (warmup)
365x6
365x5
365x3

Cable rows-bar
150x7
165x7
180x6
180x6 dropset 135x7

Lawnmowers
60x9
70x8
75x7
80x5

Workout wasnt up to par today. I got to bed late and then was woken up when my roommate got back from work and had a hard time falling asleep after. Had to drag my ass outa bed and into the gym this morning Tonight ill get a better nights sleep to blast shoulders tommorow

what are lawnmowers?? I'm sure I've prob. done them before.. just never heard the name..

Back is my favorite to train.. Have you ever done this super-set.. (Close grip cable rows followed by close grip pullups??) I almost threw up after 4 sets the other day!! that sh*t is hardcore!

[notorious_mem]

lack of sleep will get ya my son had me up all night and my workout felt it.good job so far.

[UpstateTank]

lack of sleep will get ya my son had me up all night and my workout felt it.good job so far.

it got me good

thanks for the continued support bro

[UpstateTank]

Wednesday October 25th: Shoulders

"Smith" Military
50x10(warmup)
50x10(warmup)
90x10
140x5
140x5
145x2

Side Delt Raises
25x9
25x9
30x6

Front dumbell raises
30x9
35x7
37.5x5

Traps
Seated Dumbell Shrug
50x10
60x10
70x8
75x8

Shoulder was really bothering me today so didnt get in as good of a workout as I liked. Strength is still maintaining. Cant wait for legs tommorow!

[matt50]

any updates bro?

[UpstateTank]

any updates bro?

yea..i finished up last week strong...kept all my strength gains and my weight is still holding steady at 215

im taking this week off b/c its been a while since ive had a break and more so because school work has been absolutely killing me

Why so much smith work????

cause my right shoulder is reallllly messed up and smith machines are the only thing i can use for my pressing exercises that doesnt take me to the point of intolerable pain

Are ya keeping the gains?

Also, just curious, how are the "loads" on PCT?

yes sir ive been keeping my gains

what do u mean w/ "loads"?

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

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yes sir ive been keeping my gains

what do u mean w/ "loads"?[/QUOTE]



Well, they say on PCT i.e. clomid, is what porn stars use to shoot huge loads.
That seems like the coolest part of a cycle lol....get all muscular then go make a porn movie.

[UpstateTank]

Well, they say on PCT i.e. clomid, is what porn stars use to shoot huge loads.
That seems like the coolest part of a cycle lol....get all muscular then go make a porn movie.

ohhhh hahaha i gotcha...i actually didnt notice a difference...and the girl ive been eloping with didnt mention nething about it either