PGCL protocol

[taiboxa]

I am doing 31.25 mcg per shot with ZERO sides too - I wish the tightness was what you have but still the diuretic and pumps are nice.

My personal use for this is as a 2-3 week cutter stacked with clen and T3 in the middle of a longer bulker. this allows me to control fat gain while getting a niiiiice rebound when stopping and see where I really stand as far as LBM gains as opposed to water or fat.

throw in some tren im sure thats wat is causing the cumulative pump.. but it is so unlreal..
just holding the mouse and moving around my tri gets TIGHT HARD and lmost locks up just like i did a few heavy set of dips... kinda neat.. KINDA OBNOXOIUS

[goonstopher]

Ha reminds me of when I was on 150mg tren ED... I couldn't even talk on the phone (didn't have blue tooth yet) or brush my teeth

[bagabones]

is it possible you are feeling the way you do because your on lots of aas and completely dehidrated - and that this might be the reason for your cramps and the cause of your muscle cramping and tightness. water weight being lost is very temporary -- what is the recommended length of time this stuff should be used? -- does it have a sinergy(sp) effect with HGH

also - aside from water loss and ripping tight how is it on your gyno?

[C_Bino]

What is your caloric intake like relative to your normal days without PGCL? Have you increased/decreased etc...

[taiboxa]

What is your caloric intake like relative to your normal days without PGCL? Have you increased/decreased etc...

w/o pgcl its the same usually though i can still tell via POO that not all my food is being properly digested/absorbed

[proud13]

Being a long time user of PGF-2alpha, I would have to assume after spending more than a few hours trying to read and research everything I could find on PGCL that it's actually just a low dose of PGF-2 mixed with something else for enhanced results and it's done by lyophilizing the PGF-2 (by baking into a powder form) and then suspending it into some form of an extended release suspension. I know where to get PGCL, who makes it, the cost, etc but there is no prostoglandin called by that name or acronym. The results are very interesting from what I've read but the side effects are the exact same as PGF-2 which (all) include constriction of smooth muscle and the ranges from temperature increases, sweating, clammy hands, airway constriction, goose bumps, etc....those are all textbook side effects of PGF-2 and for those of you not experienced with it then you would find the results of it very positive but few have tried it b/c of the negative and stereotypical sides.

[Schmidty]

I thibnk i might be addicted to pgcl.

[taiboxa]

I thibnk i might be addicted to pgcl.

it is one of the most amazing compounds i have ever used, gave me the best pumps i have ever had, even better than Tren+halo... thing is it is so hard to set up a lifestyle around pgcl since u have to dedicate so much time to trying to time ur meals and ur shits

[Schmidty]

it is one of the most amazing compounds i have ever used, gave me the best pumps i have ever had, even better than Tren+halo... thing is it is so hard to set up a lifestyle around pgcl since u have to dedicate so much time to trying to time ur meals and ur shits

Not me! im the lucky fvcker thats not really getting the sides from it... Im up to 50mcg 3x ed n the shits arent that bad(except last night when my buddy made deer chili). Nothing to unmanage able and iv only puked once from it.

[inkslinger]

ive been reading different things about this stuff - I think you are receiving the bad sides because you are doing both the IM and Subq - sides are supposed to be really bad when you take it subq - last a lot longer

[taiboxa]

ive been reading different things about this stuff - I think you are receiving the bad sides because you are doing both the IM and Subq - sides are supposed to be really bad when you take it subq - last a lot longer

this is true, when i switched to my lagging body parts and stoped using it for fat loss (which still seemed to occur systemically) i had less harsh sides

[inkslinger]

hows it going thus far tho ? have you noticed anything else besides the sick pumps ?

[taiboxa]

hows it going thus far tho ? have you noticed anything else besides the sick pumps ?

i quit pgcl like a year ago... its great stuff.. i just dont have the regiment to fit it into.. yet

[fdrx7man]

Tai i just ordered some PGCl I plabn to do it for 2 weeks or so ill try.. then afterwards maybe run some dnp to help with anything else i missed etc..

is this stuff spot dependant or does it really matter? and its not IM injections right? just folds of the skin?

[Schmidty]

Tai i just ordered some PGCl I plabn to do it for 2 weeks or so ill try.. then afterwards maybe run some dnp to help with anything else i missed etc..

is this stuff spot dependant or does it really matter? and its not IM injections right? just folds of the skin?

u lose fat all over while ur on it, and u can shoot IM also

[taiboxa]

definetly do IM.. i had best overall results w/ IM spot injections.
its seems to be both systemic (all over effects w/ muscle growth and fat loss) but i also had most LBM gains in area of administration.

[Billytk03z]

PGCL is supposed to cause site growth and melt away gyno.... how does this work? If pgcl is injected into the bicep it is supposed to induce bicep site growth! then if this is true, how is it that when you inject into the pec for gyno reduction/fat loss purposes it shrinks the gyno/fat in the pec but doesnt cause pec growth/enlargement? can someone elaborate please?

also... how much of the site growth stays when pgcl is discontinued?

[Schmidty]

PGCL is supposed to cause site growth and melt away gyno.... how does this work? If pgcl is injected into the bicep it is supposed to induce bicep site growth! then if this is true, how is it that when you inject into the pec for gyno reduction/fat loss purposes it shrinks the gyno/fat in the pec but doesnt cause pec growth/enlargement? can someone elaborate please?

also... how much of the site growth stays when pgcl is discontinued?

It helped a lil bit with my gyno(natty gyno of 10yrs 2) n i got site injection growth n my delts, bis. Not mch site injection growth though but its noticeable.

[fdrx7man]

cool cool so IM shots 3 times a day at 30mcg or should i do 50mcg per shot? i am planning to run for 2-3 weeks or till i run out lol :-) ill be on this near the end of my cycle on sust, tren, dbol, mast, deca.. not all at the same time just so i dont get hounded lol..

ill do the pgcl when i start masteron and i stop using the tren dbol and deca.. so ill be on sust, mast and pgcl for the last 4 weeks.. :-) i cant wait!!

[Schmidty]

cool cool so IM shots 3 times a day at 30mcg or should i do 50mcg per shot? i am planning to run for 2-3 weeks or till i run out lol :-) ill be on this near the end of my cycle on sust, tren, dbol, mast, deca.. not all at the same time just so i dont get hounded lol..

ill do the pgcl when i start masteron and i stop using the tren dbol and deca.. so ill be on sust, mast and pgcl for the last 4 weeks.. :-) i cant wait!!

start @25-30mcg n work ur way up from ther

[fdrx7man]

in one month i get to start my new cycle and this one includes PGCL! i may order more so I can run for around 6 weeks!

[SECdominance]

yeah Im about to start my PGCL in 3 weeks...its gonna be a sweet primer for my next cycle..I hope!

[Schmidty]

u guys are going to fvckn luv it!!!

[Schmidty]

I have tryd 30mcg ED- 75mcg 3xED and tryed it preWO, PWO, before meals, after meals, in between meals, IM injections, SubQ injections and u gota find out w works best for u. I love the stuff and idk how i lived without it b4. And not so much muscle gain as muscle maturity, hardening and fat loss, im 5'9 205lbs and ****ing shreded 5.4%bf and im not even 21yet, iv had a full body compsition change since i started using this shit. If u have any questions on the shit PM me

[eljugo16]

bump

[Dobie-BOY]

I just ordered mine today. I dont know if Im excited or scared.?? hehe, but I sure am curious.... So, whats the conclusion yall have made? are the results permanent? worth the pains? is it really fat loss or just a diuretic effect????

[Schmidty]

i gota get sum more pgcl

[JAMES-D]

i gota get sum more pgcl

jUST ORDERED 18 AMPS AT A NICE PRICE !! CANT WAIT BUT NED SOME HELP ON THE IUS COVERT TO MCGS 2 IU'S = 50 MCGS ???

[JAMES-D]

jUST ORDERED 18 AMPS AT A NICE PRICE !! CANT WAIT BUT NED SOME HELP ON THE IUS COVERT TO MCGS 2 IU'S = 50 MCGS ???

bump bump i wish i could p.m someone or get a responce its like everyone disappeard ??

[Schmidty]

jUST ORDERED 18 AMPS AT A NICE PRICE !! CANT WAIT BUT NED SOME HELP ON THE IUS COVERT TO MCGS 2 IU'S = 50 MCGS ???

how many mcg do u have per amp? i have seen 300mcg and 500mcg amps

[JAMES-D]

i gota get sum more pgcl

Schmidy a little help ??

[JAMES-D]

All i know is after a week @ 100 mcgs 50 morn 50 night i had to take a break sides werent that bad but 3 out of 7 days it knocked the shit outta me. Sweating like a mother f#cker. i dont work i took 3 years off but i felt so ****^d up i couldnt work if i wanted !!! Not once did i get the shits because the meds im taking bind me up. But i just didnt feel right headache, stomach rumbling all day. Now i got 25 amps layin around and i dont think to many people know about this stuff. Maybe if i did 25 mcgs 3 times a day things might not be that bad. But from what i read everyone gets different effects. Who knows maybe i'll start again at a lower dose. all i did was bi's for the week and it did make me more vascular and hard as a rock !! your suppose to grow when spot injection it def looks like i grew a little. Ithink i get more outta a cycle and some HGH. IMO

[Schmidty]

All i know is after a week @ 100 mcgs 50 morn 50 night i had to take a break sides werent that bad but 3 out of 7 days it knocked the shit outta me. Sweating like a mother f#cker. i dont work i took 3 years off but i felt so ****^d up i couldnt work if i wanted !!! Not once did i get the shits because the meds im taking bind me up. But i just didnt feel right headache, stomach rumbling all day. Now i got 25 amps layin around and i dont think to many people know about this stuff. Maybe if i did 25 mcgs 3 times a day things might not be that bad. But from what i read everyone gets different effects. Who knows maybe i'll start again at a lower dose. all i did was bi's for the week and it did make me more vascular and hard as a rock !! your suppose to grow when spot injection it def looks like i grew a little. Ithink i get more outta a cycle and some HGH. IMO

wtf 50 sx ed in uv nvr tryd it b4??? Ur fvckn crazy cut ur dose n half!!! in i have only dont mine on cycle and on a cycle w hgh n iv noticed slin n hgh inhance ur results by far but make ur gh sides a lot worse

[rock's finest]

im looking forward to seeing your results i was kinda wondering about trying this stuff

[Schmidty]

just shot 25mcg for the 1st time in a few months n im getn ready for my 1st show.

[inkslinger]

i have to get some more of this stuff now.. im about to start cycle again and i help off with what i had after talking to schmidity about it..decided to only do it on cycle w/hgh

[Hazard]

i wonder..... it should be just as effective with IGF-1 as it is with HGH...... correct?

~Haz~

[inkslinger]

ive heard mix things about IGF-1 period.. ive been thinking about giving it a try
i just started hgh - prop - primo - winy - gonna throw in the pgcl as per schmidty and i think ill switch win with master @ week 8

[inkslinger]

ive heard mix things about IGF-1 period.. ive been thinking about giving it a try
i just started hgh - prop - primo - winy - gonna throw in the pgcl as per schmidty and i think ill switch win with master @ week 8

[Hazard]

ive heard mix things about IGF-1 period.. ive been thinking about giving it a try
i just started hgh - prop - primo - winy - gonna throw in the pgcl as per schmidty and i think ill switch win with master @ week 8

I was putting together my next cycle.... tho im not finished with this one yet LMAO..... here's what i was thinking.....

1-14 Test E 750mg/wk
1-12 Tren E 500mg/wk
12-14 LR3 IGF-1 100mcg/day
12-14 PGCL ramp to 100mcg/day

on a side note..... Does pgcl need to be refridgerated? Also.... How long does it last once reconstituted? I have 5mg's suspended in .9ml BA...... i don't want to add bacteriostatic water to it only to have it degrade over 30 days......

~Haz~