Test E First Cycle Log!!!

[wukillabee]

Leg day today, gotta love it! Shoot my right quad today with no probs. Thought id give quads shots a try again and see if the pain lessons.

Light-medium intensity cardio 10 minutes (warm-up those legs)
Squats:
135 x 15
225 x 12
275 x 8
275 x 6
Leg Press:
270 x 15
410 x 10
500 x 6
500 x 6
Hack Squat Machine:
90 x 15
140 x 10
140 x 8
140 x 10 (got a test boost, haha)
Lying Leg Curl Machine:
50 x 15
70 x 12
100 x 6
100 x 6
Donkey Calf Raises:
120 x 15
140 x 12
160 x 10
190 x 8
190 x 6

Then jumped on the treadmill and did 20min of medium intensity with my heart rate at the prime rate for fat burning for me. Felt like i had a pretty damn good leg day today and was very satisfied. Havent done squats with that kinda weight for awhile and even then never did if for that kind of reps. Also did more on donkey calf raises and had great intensity the whole workout resting no more than 90 seconds per set. As Ice Cube would say, "Today was a good day".

[stpete]

3 presses huh? Very nice my man. I forgot the donkey raises. Dam it.

[wukillabee]

3 presses huh? Very nice my man. I forgot the donkey raises. Dam it.

I usually just do squats, leg press, leg extensions, and lying leg curls for leg day. Calfs are a different story for me. I always do these 4 workouts but always change the order around as well as the intensity techniques. I did hack squats today more for an extra burn or pump, not really to work the muscle crazy. I have done as much as 270lb for 4-6 reps on hack squats (machine guys) but my legs where (and usually are after squats and leg press) done so this was all the weight i could do so i decided just to rep it out.

[Reed]

Ya'll gotta hit the hammies better IMO. You should increase overall leg strength if you do

[wukillabee]

Ya'll gotta hit the hammies better IMO. You should increase overall leg strength if you do

What would you suggest? I already know what ur gonna say, stiff leg deads huh? U also said that to stpete thats why. Ive tried those in so many different ways but everytime i do them (theres tons of mirrors so i know my form is correct) i always feel it more in my back area then my hams. Maybe its just a mental thing but i really dont feel em in my hams so much. The only other way i know to hit hams is lying and standing leg curls (i dont see a difference in the 2, seem to hit the ham just the same). I usually do standing leg curls when im cutting cus you do 1 leg at a time and do lying leg curls more for heavy weight for strength and size. I also go all the way down (no half squats here) on my squats so my ass is pretty much touchin my calfs and feel this bottom half of the exercise to work my hams while the top half of the squat to work more of the quads. Same with leg presses, always go as far down as possible working the hams to a degree.

Idk, what do you think bro? Any suggestions for a different style leg routine? Im open to any kind of input throughout this thread guys good or bad. Bodybuilding is a learning experience through trial and error so im open to trying anything out to see if it works for me. I know these exercises work for me so thats why ive stuck to them but open for suggestions.

[wukillabee]

Oh, and fu*k shooting quads! Im so over this site. My third time now throughout this cycle shooting my right quad (shot my left twice throughout) and 5-7hrs later now hurts like hell and walkin with a limp already. The inject spot always hurts worse tomorrow so im dreading to see what kinda limp ima have tomorrow. Probably no cardio tomorrow cus ill be walkin like a got a wooden leg, haha! Quads are for sure no deal anymore for me unless a miracle happens and i wake up tomorrow with no limp. Im still good though, delts are no prob, tris no prob (thanks stpete for talkin me into this one!), pecs no prob (my favorite cus im sick like that), and glutes no prob (just sucks cus i need someone else to shoot there for me). Just wish i could shoot glutes myself incase i did an ed inject cycle i wouldn't have to rely on someone else shooting me for those 2 sites (left glute/right glute). Thats why i was hopin to keep quads so i can stop shooting glutes. This was id have 8 sites all of which i could easily shoot myself and not have to depend on anyone else's help. Fu*k quads though, real pain!

Dont get me wrong people reading this that havent shot there yet. I say everyone try every site at least once to see how they react. I know theres tons of people on here that just love quad shots and only a few that hate it. Just not the site for me.

[toneloc85]

What would you suggest? I already know what ur gonna say, stiff leg deads huh? U also said that to stpete thats why. Ive tried those in so many different ways but everytime i do them (theres tons of mirrors so i know my form is correct) i always feel it more in my back area then my hams. Maybe its just a mental thing but i really dont feel em in my hams so much. The only other way i know to hit hams is lying and standing leg curls (i dont see a difference in the 2, seem to hit the ham just the same). I usually do standing leg curls when im cutting cus you do 1 leg at a time and do lying leg curls more for heavy weight for strength and size. I also go all the way down (no half squats here) on my squats so my ass is pretty much touchin my calfs and feel this bottom half of the exercise to work my hams while the top half of the squat to work more of the quads. Same with leg presses, always go as far down as possible working the hams to a degree.

Idk, what do you think bro? Any suggestions for a different style leg routine? Im open to any kind of input throughout this thread guys good or bad. Bodybuilding is a learning experience through trial and error so im open to trying anything out to see if it works for me. I know these exercises work for me so thats why ive stuck to them but open for suggestions.

i had this problem when i first started doing these as well. they work great for me now though. i take a shoulder width stance,hands slightly outside of thighs and slowly stretch the bar down keeping contact with my legs. for me it feels like a standing hamstring stretch. at the bottom i hold for a count then begin back up i do not raise all the way up like you would on a deadlift though.also i just try to keep my hams tight and flexed thoughout the movment. you have prolly already tried all this but if not here ya go.

[wukillabee]

This site seems to be done a lot, oh well. Today i did chest/abs/cardio. Thought id try some heavy weight first then end the workout with a good pump, wanted to really see where my strength was today. Today i shot my left pec 1ml (250mg), woke my ass up, haha!

Flat Barbell Bench Press
135 x 20
185 x 12
275 x 6
275 x 6
Incline Barbell Bench Press
135 x 15
185 x 8
205 x 6
205 x 8 dropset to 135 x 8
Dip with bodyweight
15 reps, 12 reps, 12 reps
Pump set of Incline dumbell fly
35 x 10 superset to flat bench 35 x 10
21's with cable fly
50 x 7 inner half
50 x 7 outer half
50 x 7 full range
50 x 7 bent over doing full range, guess you could call it 28's, haha!

Last time i did a similar workout i was only able to do 275 for 2 sets of 4 about 3 weeks ago and today did 2 sets of 6 so my strength has gone up slightly still. Still feel and looked pumped all over like every single muscle group is equally bigger than before and stronger feeling. Hope i dont lose this crazy feeling when im off the test.

For some reason my weight really hasn't changed though which is starting to worry me a little. Weight has been consistant at 210lbs give or take a couple pounds for about 4-5 weeks now. I would think i would gain more than 12lbs from test since i started at 198lbs. Im also pretty sure im eating enough, 5 meals a day split every 2.5-3hrs everyday all pre-cooked meals from home. Tried even making all the portions slightly bigger for the last 4 weeks and still no change. I do notice though i have lost some fat in my mid-section and seeing a little more definition all over. Maybe im losing some fat while gaining muscle? I dont know, just would think i would be higher in weight by now being in week 9. Im sure its not water weight cus i dont look bloated and been taking l-dex eod at .25mg. Im happy with my gains and kinda glad i didnt blow up and get stretch marks but would still like to gain at least 5 more solid pounds from this cycle and keep it all of course. Maybe in the last few weeks and adding the halodrol will help. Guess we'll see. Any input on this guys? Thanks!

[stpete]

12lbs is good man. Sounds like you're gaining quality muscle while keeping the fat to a minimum. And if you're losing weight and getting stronger, that's the shit. Can't complain about that my man. I've only done that twice in my life, and that was years ago. Keep up the good work, i have a feeling that you'll get a little bigger yet.

[wukillabee]

12lbs is good man. Sounds like you're gaining quality muscle while keeping the fat to a minimum. And if you're losing weight and getting stronger, that's the shit. Can't complain about that my man. I've only done that twice in my life, and that was years ago. Keep up the good work, i have a feeling that you'll get a little bigger yet.

True true. Im for sure bigger then before this cycle and a little more define everywhere so cant complain at all, just sayin. Guess i was expecting too much from aas, i dont know. Even so, glad i tried it cus this stuff beats anything otc, including any prohormones. Lot less sides too. Only real sides im gettin is a few more pimples on my back and thats it! Cant complain about that either i guess.

[wukillabee]

Today i felt strong before goin to the gym so i decided to start the workout with deadlifts. Haven't done these in probably a year.
Deadlifts full-range (dont do that half ass shit)
135 x 15
185 x 12
225 x 10
275 x 8
275 x 6
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown Machine
150 x 15
180 x 12
210 x 8
210 x 6 dropset to 165 x 4 dropset to 135 x 8
Bent Over Dumbell Rows
50 x 15
70 x 12
85 x 8
85 x 8 (Felt dead by now, deadlifts killed me)
Wide Grip Lat Straight Arm Pulldown
60 x 15
75 x 10
90 x 4 (felt strong so i upped it to 90 but could barely do 4 so dropped down)
75 x 8
Close Grip Seated Row Machine (just did this for a nice pump to end it)
120 x 15
160 x 8
Cardio for 15 minutes on treadmill

Overall, felt i did pretty good on deads for my first time in almost a year. My lower back feels sore as fu*k right now, hopefully its better by tomorrow for legs. The deads pretty much exhausted me so i was kinda sore already before doin all the other exercises. Gonna start doin more deads for the rest of this cycle and see how it goes.

[Reed]

You still looking for a idea on the leg workouts??? Just add in one to two more exercises for your hamstrings preferably stiff-deads that is the king for the hammies.

Also not the best of ideas to have a heavy back workout before legs especially if your doing heavy squats the next day. Its a standard protocol; just some pointers. Good work so far bud.

[wukillabee]

You still looking for a idea on the leg workouts??? Just add in one to two more exercises for your hamstrings preferably stiff-deads that is the king for the hammies.

Also not the best of ideas to have a heavy back workout before legs especially if your doing heavy squats the next day. Its a standard protocol; just some pointers. Good work so far bud.

Damn, didnt even think of that bro. Looks like shoulders tomorrow then. Yeah, might add in another ham excercise, not sure bout the stiff deads yet. Where u been bro? Havent heard from u in awhile.

[stpete]

Good workout my man. Especially after deads.
Back issues is what keeps me from doing them on a regular basis. Doing construction for so many years pretty much ate up my lower back.
Keep up the good work.

[wukillabee]

Good workout my man. Especially after deads.
Back issues is what keeps me from doing them on a regular basis. Doing construction for so many years pretty much ate up my lower back.
Keep up the good work.

Yeah, construction will do that to u. After those deads i felt dead, haha. Stuck to it and finished my workout i think pretty solid.

[wukillabee]

Took today off cus i slept in and needed a day just to rest before work. Lower back also felt sore as hell. Back to the gym tomorrow.

[wukillabee]

Today just did legs. Lower back was still pretty sore but much better than yesterday. Shot my right glute no problem, very smooth. Decided not to do squats today cus of my lower back so just did a good pre-exhaust with some heavy presses.

Leg Extension Machine:
90 x 15
Super-Set to:
Lying Leg Curl Machine:
50 x 15
Leg Extension Machine:
135 x 12
Super-Set to:
Lying Leg Curl Machine:
80 x 12
Leg Extension Machine:
165 x 10
Super-Set to:
Lying Leg Curl Machine:
100 x 10
Leg Extension Machine:
180 x 8
Super-Set to:
Lying Leg Curl Machine:
110 x 8 (Feeling pretty damn pumped now!)

Leg Press Machine:
270 x 15
450 x 10
495 x 8 (HAHA, cracked myself up here! See comments below)
540 x 6

Hack Squat Machine:
90 x 15
180 x 10
230 x 8
230 x 6

Standing Leg Curl Machine One-Leg:
30 x 15 each leg
50 x 10 each leg
50 x 8 each leg

Donkey Calf Raise Machine:
120 x 15
150 x 12
180 x 12
200 x 10 (first time hitting 200lbs on this and for reps, lovin it!)
200 x 8

Ok, on the leg press machine where i put the comment on top. I thought i had 6 plates on each side for a total of 12 plates right? Haha, well i only put one plate extra on one side and not another on the other side so one side had 6 plates and the other side had 5 plates. Didn't even notice, did my reps, thought wow ima had on 50lbs, looked and saw my mistake, then laughed at myself. Anyone do this before? Fu*kin cracked me up. Was in a hurry today and still am so no cardio or abs. Should have more time at the gym tomorrow so ill include it all. Overall, weight is up on leg extensions, lying leg curls, donkey calf raises, and overall stamina and strength in the gym still coming on the end of week 9. Its like never ending strength gains, i love it. Just hope i can keep it coming.

[Reed]

Shhhhhh you have mail

[wukillabee]

Unfortunately today will be the first day of the first week of no more gear. Had to stop cycle for reasons i won't explain. Still, had a good 9 week cycle though. Sucks it was only 9 weeks cus even last week i was still noticing good gains coming and im sure more would have came too. Oh well, i got my feet wet and will plan better for my future cycles. At least i know my body responds really well to test with little to no sides. Today i did chest/calfs/cardio:
Incline Barbell Bench Press:
135 x 20
185 x 12
255 x 4 (First time i think and repped it pretty well for 4 solid reps!)
255 x 4
225 x 6 drop set to 135 x 8
Decline Barbell Bench Press:
135 x 15
185 x 10
225 x 4
225 x 4
Hammer Strength Machine Decline Press
225 x 12 super set to:
Dips with bodyweight for 12 reps
225 x 10 super set to:
Dips with bodyweight for 10 reps
Incline Dumbell flys:
30 x 12 superset to:
Flat Dumbell flys 30 x 12
Incline Dumbell flys:
45 x 10 superset to:
Flat Dumbell flys 45 x 8

Seated Calf Raises:
90 x 15 regular position superset to:
90 x 15 toes pointed outwards and heels almost touching
140 x 12 regular position superset to:
140 x 8 toes pointed outwards and heels almost touching
Standing Calf Raises:
200 x 10
240 x 8
240 x 8

Finished with 15 minutes of cardio on the treadmill. Felt i still had a strong workout with tons of energy cus the test of course is still in me and still lookin solid as hell. Can really tell ive gained some size while losing a noticable amount of fat all over making me look more cut/ripped. Sad i had to end the cycle early but not everything always works out perfect. Was gonna get Cellmass/No Explode to compliment my pct to help keep gains so i guess i gotta put my order in soon now. Also got clen im gonna use during pct to help burn fat and gonna use it 2 weeks on and 1 week off with that 1 week off with benadryl. I know i can run it straight while using benadryl but no rush since my next cycle isn't till january and i have a ton of clen and time. Want to say thanks to everyone who has supported me throughout this first cycle. Still planning on keeping this log going through pct for you guys so stay tuned, im not goin anywhere. Thanks!

[40plusnewbie]

Nice way to tough it out bro! Hope things resolve themselves. And cudos to your dedication to continuing the log through pcp despite stopping the cycle early.

p.s. All you guys workout routines put mine ( and what will be mine even when i get my ass in gear) to shame. I can't move the weights you guys do or hit muscle groups with the # of sets you guys do, not to mention that it's a struggle to do even 2 muscle groups per workout sessioin unless one of those is abs. I guess that's what you get if you let yourself go for 20 years and only decide to start living healthy at age 40. It's definitely an inpiration to me to read all the workout routines like yours though bro and I hope to build myself up to what are considered more typical workout routines. Right now 6 sets per muscle group and that's it.

Oh well, we all start from different places and like I said I get a lot of motivation from this site and logs like yours bro! l love this site!

It's really cool too to read all the logs and stuff that all you youger guys are doing on a regular basis to stay in shape. I'm only getting on board at mid life (age 40) so I have to un-do a lot of neglect over the past 2 decades.

Keep up the good work and looking forward to reading about your next cycle!

[3dbigrigs]

dude I know all about stopping a cycle early. but now 3 weeks into PCT and my workouts are going great. I am so interested to know why you are stopping so PM me or I will die. lol

[wukillabee]

Missed yesterday so today did back/abs/cardio. Still felt strong even though i havent had a shot in about 6 days.

Close Grip Chin:
12 reps
Wide Grip Chin:
10 reps
Close Grip Chin:
8 reps
Wide Grip Chin:
6 reps

T-Bar Rows:
135 x 15
225 x 8
240 x 6
240 x 6

Circuit Training Here w/ No Rest Between:
Hammer Pulldown Under Hand Grip Machine:
80 x 10 reps (80lbs on one side/arm at a time)
Lat Pulldown Machine Wide Grip:
165 x 10 reps
Standing Lat Pulldown Machine Straight Arm:
60lbs x 10 reps

Row Machine:
110 x 15
140 x 10
160 x 8
160 x 8

Kinda had a quick workout but still felt swole afterwards and hard as hell! Getting used to more higher intensity training methods since they're the best for pct to help keep your gains and my pct starts in a week. After my pct and things are back on track then ima workout as i did on cycle with more strength/size training. Pct training is all about high intensity with of course still heavy weights but more focus on high intensity.

[wukillabee]

Today did just delts cus i was in a hurry, got class an in hour and still gotta eat and shower! Had a very strong workout none the less but can feel the test slowly coming out of my system, tears.

Smith Machine Seated Military Press (only counted the plates, not the bar):
90 x 15
140 x 12
180 x 8
210 x 6
210 x 6
Barbel Behind The Back Shrugs:
135 x 15
225 x 12
315 x 8
315 x 8
Standing EZ-Curl Bar Upright Rows
65 x 15
105 x 10
125 x 8
125 x 6
Standing Dumbell Flys:
20 x 15
30 x 12
45 x 8
50 x 6
50 x 6 Super Set to 40 x 6 Super Set to 30 x 6
Bent Over Cable Rear Flys (Franko Columbo Style, Best for definition!):
20 x 15
30 x 8
30 x 8 Super Set to dumbell bent over fly: 35 x 8

Thats it for today. Gotta rush now to eat and shower before class, hate bein in a fuc*in rush! Overall, felt very strong today still and size is still the same, havent lost a pound yet and dont plan on it. Gonna start my pct in about 10 days so we'll see how that goes. Should be fine since i have plenty of pct gear to run and gonna keep my appetite up and my training strong. I dont think ill lose much or any of my gains since i really never bloated on cycle but gained more quality size and definition. I can see a big difference in my physique from before cycle till now and very very pleased. Cant imagine what ima look like after my second cycle, omg!

[Reed]

Not gonna answer my PM fool. You ARE a va jay jay

[wukillabee]

Not gonna answer my PM fool. You ARE a va jay jay

I just answered your question for the second time you pu$$y! Check ur damn pm's. When u doin ur cycle?

[wukillabee]

Today i just did legs/arms to finish up for this week. Only been 1 week of the test and already feelin it, sucks. Today my strength/size/pump are all still the same as on cycle but losing that intensity and stamina in the gym which sucks.

Super Set/Pre-Exhaust:
Lying Leg Curls
60 x 15
Seated Leg Extensions:
90 x 15
Lying Leg Curls:
80 x 10
Seated Leg Extensions:
120 x 12
Lying Leg Curls:
100 x 10
Seated Leg Extensions:
160 x 10
Lying Leg Curls:
100 x 8
Seated Leg Extensions:
185 x 8 (Getting stronger on these)

Leg Press Machine:
270 x 15
360 x 12
450 x 10
500 x 8
500 x 6

Hack Squat Machine:
90 x 15
180 x 6 (Felt some sharp pains in my lower back here so stopped)

Standing Leg Curls One Legged:
30 x 15
40 x 12
50 x 10

Arms was more of a circuit training so no need to log em.

[wukillabee]

Had to take the last few days off to get some school and other things takin care of. Today i did chest/tris/calfs to make up for the extra days off the gym. Tomorrow also will be day 14 of me being off cycle so i will start my pct tomorrow night before bed and will continue taking my pct everynight before bed. Since my cycle was really on 8-9 weeks and i really dont feel shut down at all and my strength is still high, i think ima just run my pct like this:
L-Dex @ 1mg Weeks 1-3
Nolva/Clomid @ 20/50 Weeks 1-4
This way if theres any rebound effect (which im sure there wont be) ill have the serms for an extra week to be safe. Also after pct im thinking of doing letro for 2-4 weeks (however long it takes to see a difference) to see if that helps with my puffy nips that ive had since a child. Its weird cus when my nips or normal or not stimulated they look puffy, when theyre cold or stimulated then they are small and look normal like how they should all the time so i dont know. If this doesnt work then ima cut real good for this summer coming up and maybe having a low bf% will get rid of it. If not then at least ive tried all avenues and will eventually get surgery done, hopefully wont have to go this route but knowing my luck, who knows. Anyways:
Incline Dumbell Flys:
30 x 15
45 x 12
65 x 8
65 x 8
Incline Bench Press:
135 x 15
185 x 10
225 x 6
225 x 6
Decline Hammer Strength Machine:
180 x 15 SuperSet to Bodyweight dips for 10 reps
230 x 10 SuperSet to Bodyweight dips for 10 reps
270 x 8 SuperSet to Bodyweight dips for 10 reps
270 x 6 SuperSet to Bodywieght dips for 10 reps
Seated Bench Press Pulley Machine:
135 x 15
180 x 10
220 x 6 DropSet to 180 x 4 DropSet to 135 x 8
Lying Skull Crushers with E-Z Curl Bar:
75 x 10
95 x 6 (Wasn't feelin it and was gettin kinda sore in my elbows so moved on)
Bent Over Cable Kick Backs:
25 x 12 SuperSet to Seated Calf Raises 90 x 15 SuperSet to Toes Out Heels In for another 15 reps
35 x 10 SuperSet to Seated Calf Raises 120 x 12 SuperSet to Toes Out Heels In for another 12 reps
40 x 8 SuperSet to Seated Calf Raises 120 x 12 SuperSet to Toes Out Heels In for another 12 reps
Cable Angle Bar Press Downs:
100 x 15 SuperSet to Seated Calf Raises 140 x 8 SuperSet to Toes Out Heels In for another 8 reps
130 x 12 SuperSet to Seated Calf Raises 140 x 10 SuperSet to Toes Out Heels In for another 10 reps

By the end of my workout my chest and arms felt pumped as hell and sore too. Calfs are my real laggin muscle group since forever so been training them twice a week for about 6 months now tryin all kinds of routines and exercises to bring em up. Slowly but surely theyre growin but can't catch up at all to my other body parts which sucks but oh well.

Oh yeah, on Sunday i started liquid clen and plan on taking it 2 weeks on 1 week off and on that week off taking benadryl 50mg before bed. I know people say you can run clen for 6+ weeks straight if you take benadryl every 3rd week but im real sensitive to clen so that week off should help. Gonna do this for about 2-3 of these cycles (2 on 1 off) to help burn fat while on pct and even off pct. Started sunday at 40mcg, monday 40mcg, tuesday 60mcg and today 60mcg. What sucks with my schedule and since you cant take clen before working out is that i have to take it all in one dose at around 2pm. Thats the soonest i can take clen so i dont want to take a second dose round 5pm and be up to who knows when. Took 60mcg yesterday at 2pm and went fine, get really shaky hands though which looks kinda crazy. First few days my heart jumped up by nothing like that now thank god. Gonna boost up the dose accordingly. So far so good.

[wukillabee]

Gonna try to take some pics tomorrow night after work since tomorrow is officially my first day of pct. Ill repost the others together so you guys can help me compare before cycle, 6 weeks into cycle, first day of pct, then when i finish pct at week 4 i plan on posting another set for comparision.

[trenerefic85]

It looks like you got gyno man.

[Deltasaurus]

It looks like you got gyno man.

nice 2nd post LOL

[Kale]

nice 2nd post LOL

Its ok, the muppet has had the appropriate warning added as his title !!!

[ChickenNKumara]

I havent seen any post cycle pics - any chance of seeing some? How did things end up - did you keep your gains?

[bigp87]

I too would like to see some Post cycle pictures... :-)

[ridedivefx]

excellent log

[stpete]

Been a few weeks now. Get back in the gym and on this site bro.

[wukillabee]

Been a few weeks now. Get back in the gym and on this site bro.

Damn, didnt know anyone was payin attention to tis log anymore so i stopped recording. Ive kept most my gains and lost a little bf as well so pleased with a wack 8 week cycle of test e. Not much to brag about and no post pics but look the same as last set of pics on here. I hae about 2 days left of pct then im done. Already been feeling back to normal and my natural test bein back on. Since i dont have medical i cant really afford to get blood work done but by listening to my body i feel pretty damn normal, sex drive too! Im already preparing for my second cycle which will be second to none. Ill keep it a surprise until the time comes, hopefully late january. Im gonna get all my gear and on cycle meds ahead of time for now on so this problem never happens again, live and learn i guess. Only thing ive lost is the crazy motivation for the gym, stamina in the gym, and some strength. My strength is higher then before i started though so i havent lost it all. Today was back/bis/abs but just wasnt feelin it. Lot of personal sh*t goin on right now and school so its been pretty damn hard but tryin to stay focused. Didnt know i had so many on lookers. Oh and for the gyno guy, my nips have been like this since i was like 8yrs old or as far back as i can remember so i dont think its gyno at all. Its not hard and no tissue there, just seems like extra skin or fat but when theyre cold they look normal like how they should look 24/7. I aint worried bout it and getting my bf down low im sure will help. Thank you everyone for stayin on board here but im afraid ima end this thread now. Stay tuned for my cycle hopefully in late january, will have another detaled log for that one. Stpete, u got my emal homie, hit me up sometime.

[lovbyts]

Nice log but pics?

[tembe]

y did u stop the cycle early