Atomini's NOOPEPT log!!!

[Atomini]

It falls under peptides but specifically it is a Nootropic (the proper term for cognitive performance enhancing drugs instead of 'brain AAS' lol).

And I honestly think that I have probably just caused the Nootropic market to gain tens of thousands of dollars in a matter of days through my creation of this thread lol.

[Zodiac82]

It falls under peptides but specifically it is a Nootropic (the proper term for cognitive performance enhancing drugs instead of 'brain AAS' lol).

And I honestly think that I have probably just caused the Nootropic market to gain tens of thousands of dollars in a matter of days through my creation of this thread lol.

does it have to be refrigerated since its a peptide

[Atomini]

does it have to be refrigerated since its a peptide

No it does not. It's a peptide all of about 2 amino acids long. This means it is not complex enough to undergo denaturing, destruction, or warping of its form from heat, physical abuse, or stomach acids.

[Edwin23q]

No it does not. It's a peptide all of about 2 amino acids long. This means it is not complex enough to undergo denaturing, destruction, or warping of its form from heat, physical abuse, or stomach acids.

Mate just be honest, you just bought a million buks worth of the company shares, put up this thread and your now walking away with 10 million bucks. Lol
Nah in all honesty, thanks for this thread, I didn't even know this pep even existed let alone a real user experience.

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[Atomini]

I was just going to say, I probably own well over 3 quarters of the stocks for this product lol. I should check NASDAQ.

[bcaasdirty]

atomini,

hows noopept benefitted you from a workout standpoint? Id be curious as to how it affected the mind/muscle connection and focus levels during your training session.

Thanks bro!

[Atomini]

atomini,

hows noopept benefitted you from a workout standpoint? Id be curious as to how it affected the mind/muscle connection and focus levels during your training session.

Thanks bro!

bcaasdirty,

Go back to page 3 of this thread, and go to post #111, it's a log update. Read that post, and the following ones I made (I made several posts on my findings). You'll see everything right there. Before you go read those, for now i'll say yes it absolutely IS a performance enhancing drug for physical performance as well. Just go take a look at my findings and speculations.

[Edwin23q]

bcaasdirty,

Go back to page 3 of this thread, and go to post #111, it's a log update. Read that post, and the following ones I made (I made several posts on my findings). You'll see everything right there. Before you go read those, for now i'll say yes it absolutely IS a performance enhancing drug for physical performance as well. Just go take a look at my findings and speculations.

Mate are you still on it? How long has it been now? Still getting the good feelings? Has it tapered off or still at a good level?
Should I start on 30mg from day 1?

Thx

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[bcaasdirty]

bcaasdirty,

Go back to page 3 of this thread, and go to post #111, it's a log update. Read that post, and the following ones I made (I made several posts on my findings). You'll see everything right there. Before you go read those, for now i'll say yes it absolutely IS a performance enhancing drug for physical performance as well. Just go take a look at my findings and speculations.

good stuff, thanks

[Atomini]

Yeah i'm still on it, still feeling all the effects that have been consistently building too. I started at 30mg twice a day for a total of 60mg/day. I am going to up it soon to 90mg/day but I will wait until after my choline arrives for that, I want to see how much better the Choline makes the Noopept work.

You really don't need all that high of a dose either. I've seen on other forums where people are just doing 10mg/day or 20mg/day. I started at over 30mg, so that's me.

[Edwin23q]

Yeah i'm still on it, still feeling all the effects that have been consistently building too. I started at 30mg twice a day for a total of 60mg/day. I am going to up it soon to 90mg/day but I will wait until after my choline arrives for that, I want to see how much better the Choline makes the Noopept work.

You really don't need all that high of a dose either. I've seen on other forums where people are just doing 10mg/day or 20mg/day. I started at over 30mg, so that's me.

Cool. Thanks. I think I'll start at 20 and take it from there.

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[Brick]

Yeah i'm still on it, still feeling all the effects that have been consistently building too. I started at 30mg twice a day for a total of 60mg/day. I am going to up it soon to 90mg/day but I will wait until after my choline arrives for that, I want to see how much better the Choline makes the Noopept work.

You really don't need all that high of a dose either. I've seen on other forums where people are just doing 10mg/day or 20mg/day. I started at over 30mg, so that's me.

From your other readings have you found a compounding effect happens to a point of over saturation (mega-dose).

Sort of like two beer your buzzing (20mg). Six beer you're doing great (60mg) but 20 beer you pass out (mega dose)

[Zodiac82]

I was just going to say, I probably own well over 3 quarters of the stocks for this product lol. I should check NASDAQ.

I was just thinkn that this mornin....that u mighta purchased stock....smart man lol

[krugerr]

The more I read, the more I want some!!

[Bigshotvictoria]

I ordered some Aniracetam to stack on too....

[Atomini]

Alright, so I decided in the little bit of free time I had today to jump onto the official Russian Noopept website and do some reading. I had to use an online translator, so please forgive me if some of the wording and grammar came out a little messed up. But check this out, right from the official site:

Therapeutic effect Noopepta evident with 5-7 days of treatment, in the form of protivotrevozhnogo and tonic effects. At 7-14 days of therapy, there vegetonormalizuyuschee effect, normalization of sleep. From 14-20 days of therapy revealed a positive effect on cognitive function of the drug, the parameters of attention and memory.

For its effectiveness Noopept ® exceeds that of Piracetam found in clinical studies, patients with vascular cognitive disorders and posttraumatic genesis. According to clinical studies, the risk of side effects while taking Noopepta almost twice lower than at admission Piracetam, suggesting the safety of the drug.

® Noopept not cumulative in the body, does not cause drug dependence. With the lifting of the drug is not the abolition of the syndrome.

Noopept ® does not have an injury to internal organs, does not lead to changes in haematological and biochemical parameters, no immunotoksicheskim, teratogenic effects, showed no mutagenic properties.

Noopept ® released in pharmacies without a prescription.

The first outlined part bolded in red should give everyone here a good idea as to when to expect its different effects to 'kick in'. I can without a doubt say that I have experienced 100% exactly how the effects and the time periods in which to experience them are described. The effects only seem to get better and better as time progresses forward. At this point by tomorrow, it will be 7 full days since starting Noopept. A whole week. This means according to the information above, the cognitive enhancement effects should only continue to INCREASE following the first 7 day period.

Can't wait to see what happens as time presses on. Especially once I receive my Choline Bitartrate and start adding that in. I am going to wait to start the Choline before I decide to increase my Noopept dose by another 30mg.

[Atomini]

Also,

Pharmacological Effects
Noopept ® is nootropnym drug with nootropnym and neuroprotective properties. Improves learning ability, memory, working on all phases of processing: the primary information processing, consolidation, retrieval. Prevents the development of amnesia caused by electroshock, a blockade of central cholinergic structures glyutamatergicheskih receptor systems ironic phase of sleep deprivation.

Well, that explains the improvement in sleep and wakefulness upon awaking in the morning. And,

Can Noopept if I have meteopatiya?
You can use Noopept to improve memory, reduce anxiety, improve sleep and normalize the body’s resilience to external factors that can reduce the manifestations meteopatii and better portability meteorological changes your body.

Well, it's sleep improvement effects are a definite fact. I am not the only one who has experienced it since starting it anyhow, the internet is littered with Noopept user logs exhibiting the same things.

[Brick]

Been thinking. As this peptide shows memory increase, anxiety decreases etc. but with this the effects don't disappear when you stop taking it.

As most of us know the old phrase 'a pill for every ill' and also that the health industry doesn't make money off healthy people or dead people, just off the sick and barely alive and nearly dead.

Thinking of these facts do you feel that noopept might be cause for alarm for the health industries wallets as it 'cures' to many ailments and you don't need to continue use to feel its effects. Can you see some sort of ban or regulation on it?

[Atomini]

Been thinking. As this peptide shows memory increase, anxiety decreases etc. but with this the effects don't disappear when you stop taking it.

As most of us know the old phrase 'a pill for every ill' and also that the health industry doesn't make money off healthy people or dead people, just off the sick and barely alive and nearly dead.

Thinking of these facts do you feel that noopept might be cause for alarm for the health industries wallets as it 'cures' to many ailments and you don't need to continue use to feel its effects. Can you see some sort of ban or regulation on it?

Yes, absolutely if enough word gets around about it. I had debated whether or not to post this log up here at first, too. That was because i'm actually worried that if too much news gets around about this and Noopept becomes very popular, I think the FDA and the government will attack it fiercely. BUT I think that this is a drug developed in Russia, it may be more difficult to do. It's different with drugs pioneered in the West. In Russia you can buy this stuff OTC. So I would say to everyone here not to advertise about it too much for that reason.

[Edwin23q]

Yes, absolutely if enough word gets around about it. I had debated whether or not to post this log up here at first, too. That was because i'm actually worried that if too much news gets around about this and Noopept becomes very popular, I think the FDA and the government will attack it fiercely. BUT I think that this is a drug developed in Russia, it may be more difficult to do. It's different with drugs pioneered in the West. In Russia you can buy this stuff OTC. So I would say to everyone here not to advertise about it too much for that reason.

Just popped 10mg, 30 mins and nothing, might pop another 10mg now.

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[Brick]

Just popped 10mg, 30 mins and nothing, might pop another 10mg now.

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Keep us updated

[Edwin23q]

Keep us updated

Been on 20mg and still nothing, another 10mg's?

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[Edwin23q]

This is it.
I'm now on 30mg's , 3 capsules.
I'll post back in 30 min.
Planning to take 30mgs in the morning as soon as I wake up which is 10 hours away.

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[Brick]

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This is it.
I'm now on 30mg's , 3 capsules.
I'll post back in 30 min.
Planning to take 30mgs in the morning as soon as I wake up which is 10 hours away.

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Maybe under dosed?

[Edwin23q]

Maybe under dosed?

Not sure, 50 minutes now on 30mgs and still nothing at all.

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[Edwin23q]

Not sure, 50 minutes now on 30mgs and still nothing at all.

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Ok it's now 3 hours since the 10mg dosage, 2 hours since my 20mg and 1 hour since I upped it to 30mg.
I'm feeling a little spaced out, not sure on how to describe it but its like my wife is talking to me but not to me?? Wow that doesn't even make sense, lol
Umm strange but so so peaceful, colorful, and I'm feeling free off stress or pressure.
Ok I have to cook my protein foods for tomorrow, will report back in an hour.

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[Brick]

Ok it's now 3 hours since the 10mg dosage, 2 hours since my 20mg and 1 hour since I upped it to 30mg.
I'm feeling a little spaced out, not sure on how to describe it but its like my wife is talking to me but not to me?? Wow that doesn't even make sense, lol
Umm strange but so so peaceful, colorful, and I'm feeling free off stress or pressure.
Ok I have to cook my protein foods for tomorrow, will report back in an hour.

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Stop making me jealous!!!

[lovbyts]

I don't thing people should be looking for immediate results. Its more my understanding its more over time/days

[Atomini]

I don't thing people should be looking for immediate results. Its more my understanding its more over time/days

Exactly. Guys, do NOT expect immediate results from this stuff. I noticed some immediate effects due to how well I know my body and any of the most minor changes I can notice.

Overall, the effects of Noopept are not just gradual, but they are exponential. They build upon each other slowly until it becomes greater and greater. This is what i've experienced, and it only gradually became better over the first 7 - 14 days of use. I say give this stuff half a month, depending on your dose, to fully mainifest itself gradually. Do not take this stuff for the first time expecting some euphoric stimulant-like speed in immediate effects. Noopept does not work that way.

[ElDude]

Exactly. Guys, do NOT expect immediate results from this stuff. I noticed some immediate effects due to how well I know my body and any of the most minor changes I can notice.

Overall, the effects of Noopept are not just gradual, but they are exponential. They build upon each other slowly until it becomes greater and greater. This is what i've experienced, and it only gradually became better over the first 7 - 14 days of use. I say give this stuff half a month, depending on your dose, to fully mainifest itself gradually. Do not take this stuff for the first time expecting some euphoric stimulant-like speed in immediate effects. Noopept does not work that way.

^^Agree

Just got my scale and some gel-caps in. noopept should be here by Friday

[Edwin23q]

Ok guys, so up at 5:00am, took 30mg with breakfast, it's 6:00am and off to the gym.
I don't think I'll keep updating this log as we would end up with way too many people doing the same thing on someone else's log.
I'll keep my dosage from today to a max of 40mg a day and see how that goes.
Good luck everyone and thanks op for your help.

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[Far from massive]

Agreed with Atomini, That an increase in effect will come over time repeated administration. Here is one of the medical articles I have read already that supports and explains this.

Noopept stimulates the expression of NGF and BDNF in rat hippocampus.

Ostrovskaya RU, Gudasheva TA, Zaplina AP, Vahitova JV, Salimgareeva MH, Jamidanov RS, Seredenin SB.


Source

V. V. Zakusov Institute of Pharmacology, Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, Moscow. [email protected]


Abstract

We studied the effect of original dipeptide preparation Noopept (N-phenylacetyl-L-prolylglycine ethyl ester, GVS-111) with nootropic and neuroprotective properties on the expression of mRNA for neurotropic factors NGF and BDNF in rat hippocampus. Expression of NGF and BDNF mRNA in the cerebral cortex and hippocampus was studied by Northern blot analysis. Taking into account the fact that pharmacological activity of Noopept is realized after both acute and chronic treatment, we studied the effect of single and long-term treatment (28 days) with this drug. Expression of the studied neurotropic factors in the cerebral cortex was below the control after single administration of Noopept, while chronic administration caused a slight increase in BDNF expression. In the hippocampus, expression of mRNA for both neurotrophins increased after acute administration of Noopept. Chronic treatment with Noopept was not followed by the development of tolerance, but even potentiated the neurotrophic effect. These changes probably play a role in neuronal restoration. We showed that the nootropic drug increases expression of neurotrophic factors in the hippocampus. Our results are consistent with the hypothesis that neurotrophin synthesis in the hippocampus determines cognitive function, particularly in consolidation and delayed memory retrieval. Published data show that neurotrophic factor deficiency in the hippocampus is observed not only in advanced Alzheimer's disease, but also at the stage of mild cognitive impairment (pre-disease state). In light of this our findings suggest that Noopept holds much promise to prevent the development of Alzheimer's disease in patients with mild cognitive impairment. Moreover, therapeutic effectiveness of Noopept should be evaluated at the initial stage of Alzheimer's disease.

PS I am curently on day 3 of usage, if I find anything novel in my experience I will add it to this thread, assuming thats ok with you Atomini.

[Atomini]

Agreed with Atomini, That an increase in effect will come over time repeated administration. Here is one of the medical articles I have read already that supports and explains this.

Noopept stimulates the expression of NGF and BDNF in rat hippocampus.

Ostrovskaya RU, Gudasheva TA, Zaplina AP, Vahitova JV, Salimgareeva MH, Jamidanov RS, Seredenin SB.


Source

V. V. Zakusov Institute of Pharmacology, Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, Moscow. [email protected]


Abstract

We studied the effect of original dipeptide preparation Noopept (N-phenylacetyl-L-prolylglycine ethyl ester, GVS-111) with nootropic and neuroprotective properties on the expression of mRNA for neurotropic factors NGF and BDNF in rat hippocampus. Expression of NGF and BDNF mRNA in the cerebral cortex and hippocampus was studied by Northern blot analysis. Taking into account the fact that pharmacological activity of Noopept is realized after both acute and chronic treatment, we studied the effect of single and long-term treatment (28 days) with this drug. Expression of the studied neurotropic factors in the cerebral cortex was below the control after single administration of Noopept, while chronic administration caused a slight increase in BDNF expression. In the hippocampus, expression of mRNA for both neurotrophins increased after acute administration of Noopept. Chronic treatment with Noopept was not followed by the development of tolerance, but even potentiated the neurotrophic effect. These changes probably play a role in neuronal restoration. We showed that the nootropic drug increases expression of neurotrophic factors in the hippocampus. Our results are consistent with the hypothesis that neurotrophin synthesis in the hippocampus determines cognitive function, particularly in consolidation and delayed memory retrieval. Published data show that neurotrophic factor deficiency in the hippocampus is observed not only in advanced Alzheimer's disease, but also at the stage of mild cognitive impairment (pre-disease state). In light of this our findings suggest that Noopept holds much promise to prevent the development of Alzheimer's disease in patients with mild cognitive impairment. Moreover, therapeutic effectiveness of Noopept should be evaluated at the initial stage of Alzheimer's disease.

PS I am curently on day 3 of usage, if I find anything novel in my experience I will add it to this thread, assuming thats ok with you Atomini.

Excellent find, thanks for sharing.

I don't mind if anyone and everyone posts their experiences and findings here in this thread. I think its good to consolidate all of our Noopept experiences here.

I have nothing new to report on my log as of yet, other than the fact that I am still experiencing everything I have previously mentioned. Still feeling like a million bucks when waking up in the morning, words still flow better when talking, typing, or writing, and memory recall of various things is still quicker than it was before I started. I just wish I was heavily into my calculus and math right now as I was before the holidays, that's where Noopept's effects would really shine. But we'll see how I do with non-mathematical studies for the time being.

Remember that in order to really gauge its cognitive performance enhancing effects, you NEED to be stimulating your mind just like how you need to be working out properly while using AAS. Neither one will work well without the appropriate stimuli.

[wh1spa]

-_- it cant come fast enough!

[Zodiac82]

^^Agree

Just got my scale and some gel-caps in. noopept should be here by Friday

where did u get ur scale from....I need one also....I got bulk powder noopept

[Edwin23q]

Bro one thing I have noticed is that I've started being mr nice guy and just talkative. But at the same time easily snap at people that cheese me off.
Not sure if its the test, deca, hgh or the noopept, lol.
But I think I'll feel much better once the test flu leaves me alone.
It's day 2 for me, I'm going to stay on 40mg's a day and if I notice any of the wow factors described, then I'll update you guys.
Thanks for the articles too by the way, very informative indeed.

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[wh1spa]

Bro one thing I have noticed is that I've started being mr nice guy and just talkative. But at the same time easily snap at people that cheese me off.
Not sure if its the test, deca, hgh or the noopept, lol.
But I think I'll feel much better once the test flu leaves me alone.
It's day 2 for me, I'm going to stay on 40mg's a day and if I notice any of the wow factors described, then I'll update you guys.
Thanks for the articles too by the way, very informative indeed.

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Deff from the deca.

[Edwin23q]

Deff from the deca.

You get that from Deca as well?

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[wh1spa]

You get that from Deca as well?

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lol nope, I'm still natty at 22 / 190lb, with no intention of running any Anabolics for years to come surprisingly enough.

[Edwin23q]

lol nope, I'm still natty at 22 / 190lb, with no intention of running any Anabolics for years to come surprisingly enough.

Good choice mate, I'm 38 and running my first cycle, lol

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