1st Cycle... Getting Huge!

**Huge Presser** · 07-15-2003, 12:11 AM

Well I maxed out today, and came SO FUCKING CLOSE to getting twice my weight... hopefully I will be there at the cycle's end, as I going to finish off with some Proviron to go along with the Tren. Here's how how it went:
-Weighed in at 161 exactly
-45*5
-95*5
-135*5
-185*3
-225*1
-245*1
-275*1
-295*1 easy
-320 new max!!! Oh hell yeah... 1.987X my weight or something like that, either way I'm close to a double BW... maybe in two weeks if I feel like I want to max

.

Noticing a slight fat loss up to this point... weight is down about a pound since starting the Tren, and bench strength is up about 10, squat up about 25... so nothing huge, but definately the Tren has been worthwhile.

Peace bros,

HP

**lilbull** · 07-15-2003, 12:33 AM

great job!! You're not gonna make it easy for me to catch up are you?

**Huge Presser** · 07-15-2003, 02:38 AM

LOL... I guess we'll see in a few months

...

good luck bro.

HP

**sigrabbit** · 07-15-2003, 06:56 AM

Good work HP!

**Huge Presser** · 07-16-2003, 05:37 PM

Thanks guys... I'm still working hard, I've been gone for a couple days but now I'm officially back!
Updates and pics will be up soon enough....

Peace
HP

**BigGreen** · 07-21-2003, 10:01 PM

How long have you been running the tren now? I'm giving serious consideration to its inclusion at the expense of winny's, but have a bit of things to sort through before I arrive at this decision. Since this is your first cycle, can you give a sort of "op ed" of your opinion on tren for a first timer? I mean, have you found the reports of it not being for a first timer meritorious or no? How have the sides been? If I recall (and I'm too lazy to go back and check at midnite) you didn't make your own, correct? Anyway, I'd really appreciate your response to this.

**Huge Presser** · 07-21-2003, 10:20 PM

Well my friend, there is much to be said about the tren. I would first like to comment that I believe tren is a big "hit or miss" type of drug, as many, such as Big T, jebac, who all have diaries at the moment and have previous tren experience, have had good, maybe even great gains as a result of tren in the past. However, I must say I am not experiencing these gains, as about half of tren users will agree. I will say that the sides have been incredible, with crazy mood swings, intense anger, acne, and major ball shrinkage. I have gained 4 pounds of mass and looking bigger but my bench has only gone up 10 so I'm not impressed. Surely these results are just similar to many users of tren... there have actually been several threads recently commenting how tren is overrated, and about have of the responses disagreed, half agreed.
A full report on the tren is coming tomorrow as my last injection, is indead, tomorrow.
Pics will be up soon enough, clomid therapy begins the 23rd, I can't believe this is coming to a close.

After the pics I guess we'll have to close this thread up and I'll move on. I'm already planning my next cycle, it will most likely be dbol/enanthate/deca and then winny/clen at the end.

Peace bros,
Check out the update tomorrow, and hopefully the pics as well!

HP

**quez82** · 07-22-2003, 01:13 AM

taking that into consideration... about the tren that is... would have stuck with the winny tabs instead of going with tren...?? i'm right in the middle of this cycle i just took my 5th shot today..everythings great... but im just looking at the end of my cycle to whether go with tren or winny ... would you have stuck with the winny? ... Quez

**sigrabbit** · 07-22-2003, 07:28 AM

I cannot make up my mind on Tren either HP. I notice definite hardness, and slight strength increase that may simply be attributed to a fraction more gym aggression, but I don't notice much in the way of sides. I have noticed that my lower back pumps up in a painful manner, and my hair seems to be brittle, but the night sweats stopped, no acne, no uncontrollable rage, etc. I would be very dissappointed if it weren't so cheap. I will continue to run it as planned to see if my opinion changes.

**Red5** · 07-28-2003, 07:43 PM

So how about an update.How is the clomid going? How much weight did you ultimately gain? Where are the pics?
Come on man, don't leave us hanging.

**Huge Presser** · 07-28-2003, 07:47 PM

God I'm an asshole.
I'm sorry bros... shits just been horrible! The clomid is making me feel like shit and I'm all fuckin emotional, around my old girlfriend, my friends, I even get sappy at the gym.... damnet I can't believe I haven't updated in so long...

Sorry I know I said I was gonna have pics and an evaluation of the tren, but I'm just a wreck. Got fired from my job, the clomid is making me feel horrible... ARRGG!!!

Pics WILL BE UP in the next 2 days I promise

.

HP

**sigrabbit** · 07-28-2003, 07:50 PM

You will be back to normal soon bro. Sorry to hear about the job loss. Just keep reminding yourself that you put on some good size and it should help your mood.

**Red5** · 07-29-2003, 07:24 AM

Shit, sorry to hear that man.I finished my clomid a week ago and it had no effect on me whatsoever so I'm not in a position to give advice, but just hang in there man, keep training and keep eating, it's going to get better.
Can't wait to see the pics, I'm sure we're all going to be blown away by your results.

**Huge Presser** · 07-31-2003, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Red5

Shit, sorry to hear that man.I finished my clomid a week ago and it had no effect on me whatsoever so I'm not in a position to give advice, but just hang in there man, keep training and keep eating, it's going to get better.
Can't wait to see the pics, I'm sure we're all going to be blown away by your results.

Hey Red thanks for your PM. Now I'm back and still destroying the weight at the gym. Clomid therapy is about halfway done, I've kept all of my weight on so far. Thanks for the support bro.

Alright this first pic is the before shot, when I was about 5 days into my cycle at about 150 lbs. I decided to do all my shots relaxed, because I think it shows my gains better and also I can never get a good most muscular shot for some reason.

may 5th, 2003.... 150lbs, 270lb bench, 14" guns, 42" chest

**Huge Presser** · 07-31-2003, 02:57 PM

Alright and here I am now.... 162 lbs, 15.5" gunz, 46" chest, 320lb bench...

**Huge Presser** · 07-31-2003, 03:00 PM

back...

**Huge Presser** · 07-31-2003, 03:03 PM

my favorite... check out the muscle I gained in my stomach!

**Huge Presser** · 07-31-2003, 03:08 PM

Well they didn't come out as well as I would have liked, but it's all good, I can see the difference I think

...alright well guys flame away... or say goodbye to this diary it's up to you but I think I'll update a couple more times... peace.

HP

**sigrabbit** · 07-31-2003, 03:13 PM

You definitely put on some nice mass HP. Great work!

**Huge Presser** · 07-31-2003, 03:29 PM

Thanks bro.

HP

**Huge Presser** · 07-31-2003, 03:31 PM

Haha I'm as white as a ghost... damnet I need to get a tan!

HP

**lilbull** · 07-31-2003, 04:14 PM

haha yeah, you need a tan. Lookin good man, you definately put on some quality size.

**Huge Presser** · 07-31-2003, 04:20 PM

Thanks bro. Damnet my arms look small in the back pic. Oh well. Hehe I pulled up my pants way too high and look like a fuckin nerd!

Man these pictures look wierder and stupider every time I come back and see them

...

HP

**Needtobeswoledup** · 08-01-2003, 11:03 PM

Your arms and back blew up bro... looking good can definately see a difference... keep hitting it

**Huge Presser** · 08-03-2003, 12:27 PM

Thanks needstobeswoledup..... bro hows your progress coming?

HP

**TheJuicer** · 08-03-2003, 12:39 PM

Hows the weight and strength doing?

**Huge Presser** · 08-03-2003, 12:55 PM

He yeah I should probably update that. Well the weight is actually up about one-two pounds. I am currently 163.4.... strength in the squat has taken a rise of about 10 lbs and my bench is still the same at 320-325. I really researched keeping gains post cycle and so far it's working... I've even upped my cals by 500 and added 40g protein to my diet. Along with the clomid, tons of sleep, intense workouts I have been able to maintain my gains. I'm stoked... hoping that my bench has even risen a little since I last had a heavy workout.

HP

**dananimal** · 08-03-2003, 03:17 PM

Hey buddy
I was taking a look at your diary. Great progress and I can tell you've been working. I browsed through it fairly quickly so Im not quite sure of your goals. What I did notice though is that you are really caught up in how much you can lift and so on. Now, if your looking to look great after these cycles and want to build a well proportioned body, i would stay away from powerlifting lifts. Things I can see from your picks that if you worked on you would look that much bigger. If I were you I would hit the shoulders and upper chest. All dumbell work. Especially for your chest. I used to not have much of a chest, and about 3 years ago I started doing flat incline decline and incline flys with dumbells and now my chest is huge. Same with your shoulders. Like I said I'm not too sure of your goals just tossin in my 2 cents. Catch yah lata.

**Huge Presser** · 08-03-2003, 05:30 PM

Well bro I agree with you on the shoulders, but my chest is huge... almost 50" pumped and I'm only 5'6. It may not look that big relaxed but I have thick lats as well which adds. Trust me, in high school I got made fun of for having "boobs" bigger then all the girls. And that was when I was scrawny.

Well I agree the pics came out shitty. I still have lots of work to do on bis and shoulders.

Also the reason I am concerned with how much I lift is because I am a powerlifter.... competitive within the USAPL and now the APF, as I have a meet coming up shortly. My goals are too get strong as fuck while putting on size, but I'm not too concerned with how I look necessarily.

Thanks for your advice,

HP

**Huge Presser** · 08-04-2003, 05:18 PM

Alright another update...

Although I have kept my size and strength since the cycle's end, I am noticing that it is taking me FAR longer to recover. At the end of my cycle I was going on only 3 days splits between bodyparts, now I realize this is not enough time, so I will be going on 4 day splits, maybe even 5. This was apparent today when I had a horrible workout, weak as hell, and my weight had dropped 2 pounds

.... but I will be back in 4 days with proper rest FROM NOW ON!

As for clomid therapy, we are almost done. My balls have come back, my horniness is where it was when I started, and acne is clearing up on my face and chest. Yeah it feels good

.

Also got my next cycle planned. Here's a sneak peak. Begins October 15th, and trust me, the diary will be much better as I am going to start the diary the day I start the cycle instead of 4 weeks in

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Dbol 45mg ed (1-4)
RT Enanthate 750mg ew (1-10)
RT Deca Durablin 600mg ew (1-10)
Proviron 50mg ed (7-10)
*Clomid post cycle
*Tons of nolva on hand.

Aight peace,

HP

**saboudian** · 08-04-2003, 09:22 PM

I'm still trying to understand this AS stuff, so bear with me.

Is there any reason you decided to use Enanthate instead of sust(or any of the other tests) this cycle?

Also, is there any reason you decided to go with deca over eq?

**Huge Presser** · 08-05-2003, 01:23 PM

I already tried sust in this cycle, and although I was pleased with the results, I have researched more and found it would be much easier to go with the Enanthate. First off, with the sust, you must inject every other day or your test levels will be inconsistent, also, the Enanthate is proven to be much stronger anabolic-wise then sust. And I'm not going with Eq because at this point I don't have enough money to support myself through Eq hunger

. I'm so fucking broke right now.

HP

**coach5190** · 08-07-2003, 01:54 PM

hey bro where did you get your shit

**Huge Presser** · 08-07-2003, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by coach5190

hey bro where did you get your shit

Hey, welcome to the board.
Sorry but it's not allowed to give out sources, read the board rules.
If you have any questions PM a mod or vet...

HP

**Huge Presser** · 08-07-2003, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by SGFuryZ

Just curious, but why proviron for only 3 weeks?

It's actually four weeks, 7, 8, 9, 10.
I'm going to be taking it mostly because I will be popping 20mg of Nolva every day weeks 1-6, considering I will be on Test there's a big chance for gyno, so it's best just to play it safe right from the start. But after 6 weeks, Nolva becomes increasingly more toxic to your liver, and kidneys, so I'm going to swith with Proviron for the last 4 weeks... once again I'm just trying to play it safe, in all aspects

.

Well I guess it's time for an update. I have lost most of my "gains" that I made on the tren. Here are the current stats:

Start of Tren: 158 lbs, 310 lb bench, squat 345*6
End of Tren: 162 lbs, 320 lb bench, squat 345*8
And now: 159 lbs, 310 lb bench, squat...no idea!

Blah I'm pissed about this. I just realized it's going to be a long road ahead. I just hope I come around and start making gains again... I just gotta keep telling myself "only 69 days from now you'll be on the juice", and I'll make it through today without being too depressed

... damnet, I'll be back

!!!

HP

**Red5** · 08-07-2003, 07:01 PM

I know what you mean.During clomid my bench dropped back to almost pre-cycle weights, but since clomid ended strength has started to creep back up again.Just remember that although your strength will take a dip it doesn't mean you are losing muscle.
And where did you hear that nolva was toxic to the liver? Most people run it throughout their cycles, are you saying now we have to treat it like dbol or winny and stop after 4 weeks?
Great job by the way, looking really good.

**Huge Presser** · 08-07-2003, 07:51 PM

I'm pretty sure I've seen threads in the past that talk about the bad sides of nolva... although I might have mistakened it with Aridimex, which fucks with your cholesterol and lipid ratio. I have heard in the past that nolva will fuck with your liver, but I'm probably wrong. But its surely not as toxic as winny or a-drol, if it even is toxic

.

Either way I feel that it's important to swith things up in a cycle. I may even choose to frontload my stack and throw in clen weeks 10-14, while putting clomid therapy back until week 15. I'm a strong believer that your body adapts to certain methods, training routines, and even steroids in only a matter of time, and it is always good to try new things. Hopefully the proviron will be strong enough to handle gyno. Hey and thanks for the comp! I'm really not looking too good though, just a little dried up weakling with a big chest and tiny arms! But I'll be back....

HP

**thetank** · 08-12-2003, 02:41 PM

hey bro i meant 2 respond 2 your pics earlier..
awesome gains in size and strength man, youve got soem freakin sickening lifts for your wieght! isay get some gear(as in a bench shirt, suit, wraps ect) and hit up some competitions....with a raw bench of twice your bw, you could do some fuckin damage man!!!
peace
tank

**Huge Presser** · 08-12-2003, 04:16 PM

Hey thanks brotha... as you can see I'm not that big but strong so I'm all about strength right now. I have a competition in October, in Cali... I'm going to order my new bench shirt this week, Inzer Phenom. Hopefully it'll give me a good 40 lbs.

Thanks for the props!

HP

**zmatalucci** · 08-12-2003, 05:19 PM

Nice progress!!!

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