You'll want to read this!

[slimshady01]

Ronnie I just started my first 2 week deload. First 8 weeks was test 500 and deca 400.

Second reload will be test 750 and deca 400.

I Have 4 old bottles of the pro hormone BOLD200 that was i think an EQ clone. Is it worth adding at 800mg a day for 8 weeks. If not ill prolly never use the stuff again. I know its mild and not hard on liver in any way.

What you think?

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=slimshady01;5680660]Ronnie I just started my first 2 week deload. First 8 weeks was test 500 and deca 400.

Second reload will be test 750 and deca 400.

I Have 4 old bottles of the pro hormone BOLD200 that was i think an EQ clone. Is it worth adding at 800mg a day for 8 weeks. If not ill prolly never use the stuff again. I know its mild and not hard on liver in any way.

What you think? I don't think its going to help much at all, if any, but might as well go ahead and use it.[/QUOTE]above

[bgvillones]

Sir Ronnie is it ok to take only 250mgs of sustanon only for 4 weeks cause I dont want a whole cycle on using steroids? I am 23 yrs old and 126lbs would want to gain 30lbs only. I just want to use steroids for an increase str only. And is it safe to use sustanon without any other steroids? thanks a lot sir.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Sir Ronnie is it ok to take only 250mgs of sustanon only for 4 weeks cause I dont want a whole cycle on using steroids? I am 23 yrs old and 126lbs would want to gain 30lbs only. I just want to use steroids for an increase str only. And is it safe to use sustanon without any other steroids? thanks a lot sir.

4 weeks is a waste of time and you cannot gain 30 lbs of muscle in 4 weeks.

[bgvillones]

4 weeks is a waste of time and you cannot gain 30 lbs of muscle in 4 weeks.

Sir Ronnie how many weeks should I use sustanon if I want to gain 30lbs? and is it ok to take only 1 kind of steroid only for example sustanon only? thanks sir Ronnie.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Sir Ronnie how many weeks should I use sustanon if I want to gain 30lbs? It doesnt work that way. You might run it 2 years and only gain 10 lbs if you do not eat enough calories. I would run it 20 weeks then PCT and see where you are. and is it ok to take only 1 kind of steroid only for example sustanon only? yes thanks sir Ronnie.

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[bgvillones]

above

Sir that means I would run 250mgs of sustanon per week for 20 weeks then pct? What medicine should I take during pct and how long is the pct? Thanks.

[bgvillones]

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[The Titan99]

Excellent Ron, thanks a lot. I'll do it. Gonna feel lazy though. Just have to REALLY concentrate on intensity AND FORM I guess.
One thing though. What do you think about the NPP/test reload then the test/tren/var 2 month cut as opposed to a 4 month slow cut as outlined in my previous post. Is 2 months enough to get to 6% bf and is it wise to try and cut that soon after a bulk? You can see where I'm at bf wise from the picture above. Whats your bf estimate?
Also, based on your recommendation, how would you run the steroids(I have clen and t3 too btw).
Thanks a million again and good luck with the up coming shows!

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=The Titan99;5681953]Excellent Ron, thanks a lot. I'll do it. Gonna feel lazy though. Just have to REALLY concentrate on intensity AND FORM I guess.
One thing though. What do you think about the NPP/test reload then the test/tren/var 2 month cut as opposed to a 4 month slow cut as outlined in my previous post. Is 2 months enough to get to 6% bf and is it wise to try and cut that soon after a bulk? You can see where I'm at bf wise from the picture above. Whats your bf estimate?
Also, based on your recommendation, how would you run the steroids(I have clen and t3 too btw).
Thanks a million again and good luck with the up coming shows![/QUOTE]PLEASE POST HOW YOU THINK YOU WANT TO RUN THIS CYCLE AND LET ME CRITIQUE IT. THAT WILL BE MUCH EASIER!

[The Titan99]

[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5683674]

Excellent Ron, thanks a lot. I'll do it. Gonna feel lazy though. Just have to REALLY concentrate on intensity AND FORM I guess.
One thing though. What do you think about the NPP/test reload then the test/tren/var 2 month cut as opposed to a 4 month slow cut as outlined in my previous post. Is 2 months enough to get to 6% bf and is it wise to try and cut that soon after a bulk? You can see where I'm at bf wise from the picture above. Whats your bf estimate?
Also, based on your recommendation, how would you run the steroids(I have clen and t3 too btw).
Thanks a million again and good luck with the up coming shows![/QUOTE]PLEASE POST HOW YOU THINK YOU WANT TO RUN THIS CYCLE AND LET ME CRITIQUE IT. THAT WILL BE MUCH EASIER!

OK your right. This will be easier. This was option 1 (previous cycle was 1750 mg Sust/700 mg Tren E/100 mg Proviron ed)
Week 1-8 Test Prop 1.5-2 grams wk/NPP 800 mg/50 mg Proviron ed
Week 9-10 Test Prop 500 mg wk
(Cutting)Week 11-20 Test Prop 700 (maybe as high as a gram mg wk/Tren E 800 mg/50 mg Proviron ed/75-100 mg ed/Clen cycled 2 weeks on 2 weeks off/T3 mcg ed for the last 30 days-(not sure on this).

What do you think about dropping the proviron dose? How about that T3?

I've been blasting for 1 year straight. I really want to keep going.

Thanks Man.

Option 2 would be the same as week 11-20 but straight through to Oct. 31st.

P.S. Absolutely love the workout!!!

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=The Titan99;5683680]

OK your right. This will be easier. This was option 1 (previous cycle was 1750 mg Sust/700 mg Tren E/100 mg Proviron ed)
Week 1-8 Test Prop 1.5-2 grams wk/NPP 800 mg/50 mg Proviron ed
Week 9-10 Test Prop 500 mg wk
(Cutting)Week 11-20 Test Prop 700 (maybe as high as a gram mg wk/Tren E 800 mg/50 mg Proviron ed/75-100 mg ed/Clen cycled 2 weeks on 2 weeks off/T3 mcg ed for the last 30 days-(not sure on this).

What do you think about dropping the proviron dose? 50 mgs of proviron daily is fine. TEST/TREN CYCLE LOOKS GOOD! How about that T3? run t-3 at 25 mcgs daily for week 11. From weeks 12-20-run t-3 at 50 mcgs daily. Take full dose at night to have most stabile blood levels of t-3. run clen at 40mcgs daily starting week 11 and increase by 20 mcgs every 2-3 weeks until you finish at week 20. Week 21 begin tapering off t-3 and clen..

I've been blasting for 1 year straight. I really want to keep going. Thanks Man.

Option 2 would be the same as week 11-20 but straight through to Oct. 31st.

P.S. Absolutely love the workout!!!

[B]NOTE: There are multiple methods of using clen, steroids, etc but as with anything there is generally a best way! It seems the most common method of taking clen is two weeks on/ 2 weeks off. While this method will work to some degree it's more beneficial to stay on for longer periods of time. Sometimes the most popular methods of using steroids, clen, etc are not the best. Clenbuterol as with steroids, your body gets accustomed. As it becomes accustomed it slows down working. This is why som ehave chosen the two weeks on and two week off method using clen or 12 weeks on 6 weeks off method with steroids.. But, you can benefit from taking longer if you use a sling shot approach and ramp up! With the slingshot method method we create a scenario where drugs can be used much longer with more effectiveness. [/B]

[frytlon]

Thanks. Info helped tremendously. Clarified it for me quite well.

[lynxeffect1]

the bigger im getn the bigger my waist is getn. is this the norm? or are all those slim waists bodybuilders say they have over exaggerated or do they just count the waist size when cut for competition

[Ronnie Rowland]

the bigger im getn the bigger my waist is getn. is this the norm? or are all those slim waists bodybuilders say they have over exaggerated or do they just count the waist size when cut for competition

When you gain body weight your waist line gets bigger according to your genetics. When you diet down it gets smaller. Due to having great genetics some do not gain much fat around their abs when bulking up but some of them will lose defiintion in legs or some other area. And some just claim their competitive waist size.

One thing that always hurt me about dieting down is the need to lose some muscle mass to get all the fat off my abs and upper back region. This has to do with my genetics. Some people are just born with a small waist. I was not that fortunate and tend to bloat up in the abs when putting on size and I was born with a fairly wide waist.

[ricky23]

hi ronnie, im about to finish t3 and abit concerned about the fat rebound while natural thyroid is getting back up. good idea to run clen ed low dose to prevent this? was recommended dnp low dose for a couple of weeks but want to stay away from that tbh. clen ok with maintenance cals?
thanks

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ronnie, im about to finish t3 and abit concerned about the fat rebound while natural thyroid is getting back up. Good idea to run clen ed low dose to prevent this? taper down slowly on t-3 by reducing it by 12.5-every 3 days. Running clen at around 40-80 mcgs per is a good plan! was recommended dnp low dose for a couple of weeks but want to stay away from that tbh. not sure who recommended dnp but they gave you some terrible advice! clen ok with maintenance cals? yes and i would reduce cals by 500 per day once you go off and or add in more cardio to compensate for coming off dnp.
Thanks

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[oscarjones]

NO D/C BLAST PLAN - FINDING THE THRESHOLD FOR TESTOSTERONE
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(Step 1)
>RELOAD WEEK 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
comp. Testosterone Enanthate 500mg QWK, IJ IM, X2 div., noct. 1.25mL, mane 1.25mL, q3.5 days, 200mg/mL

<DELOAD WEEK 9, 10
comp. Testosterone Enanthate 250mg QWK, IJ IM, X2 div., noct. 0.625mL, mane 0.625mL, q3.5 days, 200mg/mL


(Step 2)
>RELOAD WEEK 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18
comp. Testosterone Enanthate 500mg QWK, IJ IM, X2 div., noct. 1.25mL, mane 1.25mL, q3.5 days, 200mg/mL

<DELOAD WEEK 19, 20
comp. Testosterone Enanthate 250mg QWK, IJ IM, X2 div., noct. 0.625mL, mane 0.625mL, q3.5 days, 200mg/mL


(Step 3)
>RELOAD WEEK 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28
comp. Testosterone Enanthate 700mg QWK, IJ IM, X2 div., noct. 1.75mL, mane 1.75mL, q3.5 days, 200mg/mL

<DELOAD WEEK 29, 30
comp. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg QWK, IJ IM, X2 div., noct. 0.75mL, mane 0.75mL, q3.5 days, 200mg/mL


(Step 4)
>RELOAD WEEK 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38
comp. Testosterone Enanthate 700mg QWK, IJ IM, X2 div., noct. 1.75mL, mane 1.75mL, q3.5 days, 200mg/mL

<DELOAD WEEK 39, 40
comp. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg QWK, IJ IM, X2 div., noct. 0.75mL, mane 0.75mL, q3.5 days, 200mg/mL


*PRIMER WEEK 41, 42
comp. Testosterone Enanthate 200mg QWK, IJ IM, X2 div., noct. 0.5mL, mane 0.5mL, q3.5 days, 200mg/mL


rept. d.t.d. ≥ Step 3

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Ancillaries included during NO D/C BLAST PLAN

comp. Human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) 400IU t.i.w. IJ SQ, s.o.s., s.a.

comp. Anastrozole (Arimidex) 0.25mg p.o. q.d., s.o.s., s.a.

comp. Isotretinoin (Accutane) 10-20mg p.o. q.d., s.o.s., s.a.

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Notes

I am taking the plunge into complete self-saturated synthetic hormone replacement therapy. My goal is to reach a maximum genetic muscle hypertrophy via testosterone manipulation. Minor subjective ancillaries are included adjunctly to suppress side-effects and maintain sexual reproduction organ function and aesthetic.

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Abbreviation glossary

D/C | discontinue
comp. | compound
mg | milligram
QWK | every week
IJ | injection
IM | intramuscular
X | times
div. | divide
noct. | at night
mane | in the morning
q | every
rept. | repeats
d.t.d. | give of such doses
IU | international unit
t.i.w. | three times a week
SQ | subcutaneous
s.o.s. | if there is a need
s.a. | use your judgement
p.o. | by mouth or orally
q.d. | every day

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Thanks for introducing the idea of SST Ronnie! I would be honored to receive advice on the integrity of this blast plan.

[Ronnie Rowland]

no d/c blast plan - finding the threshold for testosterone
~~~~~~~~

(step 1)
>reload week 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
comp. Testosterone enanthate 500mg qwk, ij im, x2 div., noct. 1.25ml, mane 1.25ml, q3.5 days, 200mg/ml

<deload week 9, 10
comp. Testosterone enanthate 250mg qwk, ij im, x2 div., noct. 0.625ml, mane 0.625ml, q3.5 days, 200mg/ml


(step 2)
>reload week 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18
comp. Testosterone enanthate 500mg qwk, ij im, x2 div., noct. 1.25ml, mane 1.25ml, q3.5 days, 200mg/ml (increase test-e to 1 gram per week)<deload week 19, 20
comp. Testosterone enanthate 250mg qwk, ij im, x2 div., noct. 0.625ml, mane 0.625ml, q3.5 days, 200mg/ml


(step 3)
>reload week 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28
comp. Testosterone enanthate 700mg qwk, ij im, x2 div., noct. 1.75ml, mane 1.75ml, q3.5 days, 200mg/ml increase test to 1500 weekly
<deload week 29, 30
comp. Testosterone enanthate 300mg qwk, ij im, x2 div., noct. 0.75ml, mane 0.75ml, q3.5 days, 200mg/ml


(step 4)
>reload week 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38
comp. Testosterone enanthate 700mg qwk, ij im, x2 div., noct. 1.75ml, mane 1.75ml, q3.5 days, 200mg/ml 2 grams of test-e weekly<deload week 39, 40
comp. Testosterone enanthate 300mg qwk, ij im, x2 div., noct. 0.75ml, mane 0.75ml, q3.5 days, 200mg/ml


*primer week 41, 42
comp. Testosterone enanthate 200mg qwk, ij im, x2 div., noct. 0.5ml, mane 0.5ml, q3.5 days, 200mg/ml


rept. D.t.d. ≥ step 3

~~~~~~~~
ancillaries included during no d/c blast plan

comp. Human chorionic gonadotropin (hcg) 400iu t.i.w. Ij sq, s.o.s., s.a.

Comp. Anastrozole (arimidex) 0.25mg p.o. Q.d., s.o.s., s.a.

Comp. Isotretinoin (accutane) 10-20mg p.o. Q.d., s.o.s., s.a.

~~~~~~~~
notes

i am taking the plunge into complete self-saturated synthetic hormone replacement therapy. My goal is to reach a maximum genetic muscle hypertrophy via testosterone manipulation. Minor subjective ancillaries are included adjunctly to suppress side-effects and maintain sexual reproduction organ function and aesthetic.

~~~~~~~~
abbreviation glossary

d/c | discontinue
comp. | compound
mg | milligram
qwk | every week
ij | injection
im | intramuscular
x | times
div. | divide
noct. | at night
mane | in the morning
q | every
rept. | repeats
d.t.d. | give of such doses
iu | international unit
t.i.w. | three times a week
sq | subcutaneous
s.o.s. | if there is a need
s.a. | use your judgement
p.o. | by mouth or orally
q.d. | every day

~~~~~~~~
thanks for introducing the idea of sst ronnie! I would be honored to receive advice on the integrity of this blast plan.

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[oscarjones]

^^May also include Finasteride for DHT.

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=oscarjones;5686311]^^May also include Finasteride for DHT.[/QUOTE]I WOULDNT AS IT WILL KILL SEX DRIVE AND REDUCE EFFECTIVENESS OF CYCLE!

[oscarjones]

^^May also include Finasteride for DHT.

]I WOULDNT AS IT WILL KILL SEX DRIVE AND REDUCE EFFECTIVENESS OF CYCLE!

Then would you recommend any type of beta blockers to keep DHT in check? Benign Prostate Hyperplasia is something I don't wish to develop!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Then would you recommend any type of beta blockers to keep DHT in check? Benign Prostate Hyperplasia is something I don't wish to develop!

saw palmetto

[lynxeffect1]

when you say use only a slight angle for decline bench, how much exactly , a rough estimate on how much of an angle? or most benches have notches on them now, i usually decline it to notch no.5 ?

[Ronnie Rowland]

when you say use only a slight angle for decline bench, how much exactly , a rough estimate on how much of an angle? Or most benches have notches on them now, i usually decline it to notch no.5 ?

15 degrees for both declines and inclines.

[Ronnie Rowland]

hello, english is not my mother language so there might be some mistakes. So just ignore them :d i have a question about aas - my gear is to expire in december, so i was wondering if it is safe to use it a month or two later after the expiration date ? yes! I won't have time to commit myself to training 100% as i may have to go abroad for a while. This is a question to anyone, not necesserely to ronnie.

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[kml999]

Ronnie i finally did bw and this is the comparison of my natural baseline, after cycle and after my 2nd pct:

my baseline (natural)
estradiol 1.7 pg/ml (men <62pg/ml)
LH 4.81 mIU/ml (male 2-12)
FSH 4.06 mIU/ml (1.0-8.0)
Total test 3.51 (3.0-10.6)

after cycle:
estradiol 78.76 (7.63-42.6)
LH 2.23 (1.7-8.6)
FSH 1.56 (1.5-12.4)
Total test 1.55 (2.8-8.0)

after 2nd pct
estradiol 69.14 (7.63-42.6)
LH 2.51 (1.7-8.6)
FSH 2.21 (1.5-12.4)
Total test 1.67 (2.8-8.0)

my last pct was 3wks of 20 nolva and 50 clomid. aromasin came late and only used it for 3 days (25mg, 12.5,12.5) and ONE time usage of letro of around 1-1.2mg. was aiming 4wks pct, but had to do a surgery if you remember. BW was done 1 month after last pct dose!

it seems my estro went down a bit but shouldnt it go lower then that since i used one shot of letro? my lh/fsh slightly improved, but not much and i think i should give hcg a try? am dealing with a diff doc since the previous endo drove me crazy and thought i had a tumor either in my adernal gland or scrotum. already did a scrotum ultrasound and did a CT scan for the abdominal area to check liver,kidney,adernal gland, stomach, bladder, bancereas, prosate, lower part of the lungs...etc and all came good. except some fat deposits on the liver which i believe from lack of excersize (doc said thats no issue and its reversable once i start excersizing and following a proper diet).

whats next? 2wks of aromasin 25mg/day and 1000iu/wk of hcg? shouldnt nolva/clomid have increased lh/fsh?

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie i finally did bw and this is the comparison of my natural baseline, before 2nd pct and after my 2nd last pct:

My baseline (natural)
estradiol 1.7 pg/ml (men <62pg/ml)
lh 4.81 miu/ml (male 2-12)
fsh 4.06 miu/ml (1.0-8.0)
total test 3.51 (3.0-10.6)

after cycle:
Estradiol 78.76 (7.63-42.6)
lh 2.23 (1.7-8.6)
fsh 1.56 (1.5-12.4)
total test 1.55 (2.8-8.0)

after 2nd pct
estradiol 69.14 (7.63-42.6)
lh 2.51 (1.7-8.6)
fsh 2.21 (1.5-12.4)
total test 1.67 (2.8-8.0)

my last pct was 3wks of 20 nolva and 50 clomid. Aromasin came late and only used it for 3 days (25mg, 12.5,12.5) and one time usage of letro of around 1-1.2mg. Was aiming 4wks pct, but had to do a surgery if you remember. Bw was done 1 month after last pct dose!

It seems my estro went down a bit but shouldnt it go lower then that since i used one shot of letro? it takes about 1 week of using letro daily to see noticeable improvements in estrogen levels. my lh/fsh slightly improved, but not much and i think i should give hcg a try? yes thats what you need to try! am dealing with a diff doc since the previous endo drove me crazy and thought i had a tumor either in my adernal gland or scrotum. Already did a scrotum ultrasound and did a ct scan for the abdominal area to check liver,kidney,adernal gland, stomach, bladder, bancereas, prosate, lower part of the lungs...etc ..thats how they make their money! and all came good. Except some fat deposits on the liver which i believe from lack of excersize (doc said thats no issue and its reversable once i start excersizing and following a proper diet).

Whats next? 2wks of aromasin 25mg/day and 1000iu/wk of hcg? i would inject 1500 ius of hcg every other day for 3 weeks. Keep in aromasin for 4 weeks (1 week after hcg cycle). shouldnt nolva/clomid have increased lh/fsh? yes but maybe your ancillaries were low dosed?

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[kml999]

Whats next? 2wks of aromasin 25mg/day and 1000iu/wk of hcg? i would inject 1500 ius of hcg every other day for 3 weeks. Keep in aromasin for 4 weeks (1 week after hcg cycle). shouldnt nolva/clomid have increased lh/fsh? yes but maybe your ancillaries were low dosed?

well wouldnt 1500iu of hcg EOD cause estrogen to elevate? wont it aromatize?

by the way am off cycle and wanted to double check that i need to do hcg 1500iu EOD and 25mg/day of aromasin? or its better to dose the aromasin at 12.5 EOD since am off cycle and 25mg will kill all my estro? can i do 3000iu of hcg x2 per wk instead? subq or im injections? i never did hcg before and am not that fimiliar with it yet! Please be aware am off cycle and am sure those doses mentioned above are kind of high?

the ancillaries i used are pharm/human grade all bought from the pharmacy and came in blisters packs, so am sure its not underdosed

update
i did further BW for just estro and total test on the 5th day of pct...now my estro used to be 69.14 (7.63-42.6) and now is 38 (11-44) and my total test was 1.67 (2.8-8.0) and now total test is 4.83 (3.0-10.6). i ran this when i started my 3rd pct 5 days ago:

day1: 37.5mg aromasin, 100clomid
day2: 37.5 aromasin, 100 clomid, 40 nolva
day3: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva
day4: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva
day5: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva (havent taken the nolva on this day when i did the test and took it afterwards before sleep)

i did the bw test on the 5th day of this pct which was YESTERDAY i did estrodiol and total testosterone ONLY at a local lab and got the above results. i will keep aromasin at 12.5mg per day and 20 nolva until the 10th day

should i stop on the 10th day? should i still do hcg?

[Ronnie Rowland]

well wouldnt 1500iu of hcg EOD cause estrogen to elevate? wont it aromatize?Yes, it increases estrogen and the arimidex will take care of that so no need in substituting with nolvadexby the way am off cycle and wanted to double check that i need to do hcg 1500iu EOD and 25mg/day of aromasin? or its better to dose the aromasin at 12.5 EOD since am off cycle and 25mg will kill all my estro? 12.5 will suffice. can i do 3000iu of hcg x2 per wk instead? yes subq or im injections? subq i never did hcg before and am not that fimiliar with it yet! Please be aware am off cycle and am sure those doses mentioned above are kind of high?

the ancillaries i used are pharm/human grade all bought from the pharmacy and came in blisters packs, so am sure its not underdosed

update
i did further BW for just estro and total test on the 5th day of pct...now my estro used to be 69.14 (7.63-42.6) and now is 38 (11-44) and my total test was 1.67 (2.8-8.0) and now total test is 4.83 (3.0-10.6). i ran this when i started my 3rd pct 5 days ago:

day1: 37.5mg aromasin, 100clomid
day2: 37.5 aromasin, 100 clomid, 40 nolva
day3: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva
day4: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva
day5: 12.5 aromasin, 40 nolva (havent taken the nolva on this day when i did the test and took it afterwards before sleep)

i did the bw test on the 5th day of this pct which was YESTERDAY i did estrodiol and total testosterone ONLY at a local lab and got the above results. i will keep aromasin at 12.5mg per day and 20 nolva until the 10th day

should i stop on the 10th day? should i still do hcg? i would run hcg a minimum of 14 days and a maximum of 21. Keep nolvadex in fior 4 weeks

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[lynxeffect1]

our inclined barbell bench is not adjustable and prob 30 degrees, is this too much and be a waiste of time? u can feel it working very high onda chest. also i still wasnt given accutane but was given tetralysal. been taking them since saturday and since monday ive a permanent pain in my right hamstring out of no where , its like ive pulled or strained it and feels the same if ive my leg straight or bent, wudnt have anything to do with weakening the tendons or anything like uve mentioned to me or have i just strained it unknowns to myself ?

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=lynxeffect1;5687343]our inclined barbell bench is not adjustable and prob 30 degrees, is this too much and be a waiste of time? IT IS UNLESS YO ARE GENTICALLY GIFTED IN UPPER CHEST AREA. DO DUMBBELL INCLINES USING AN ADJUSTABLE SEAT OR SMITH MACHINE IS EVEN BETTER. USE A MEDIUM/CLOSE GRIP TO INCREASE RANGE OF MOTION u can feel it working very high onda chest. DO YOU GET SORE IN UPPER CHEST AREA OR FRONT DELTS? IF YOU HAVE A SHALLOW UPPER CHEST ODDS ARE GOOD IT WILL NEVER DO A LOT AS THE UPPER CHEST IS LIKE CALVES (YOU EITHER HAVE IT OR YOU DON'T BUT IT CAN BE IMPROVED) also i still wasnt given accutane but was given tetralysal. been taking them since saturday and since monday ive a permanent pain in my right hamstring out of no where , its like ive pulled or strained it and feels the same if ive my leg straight or bent, wudnt have anything to do with weakening the tendons or anything like uve mentioned to me or have i just strained it unknowns to myself ? IT HAPPENED SO FAST ITS PROBABLY JUST A STRAIN.[/QUOTE][B]NOTE: [/B][U]HERES A PICTURE I TOOK OF MY WIFE A FEW DAYS AGO. NOTICE HOW HER UPPER CHEST HAS A LOT OF VASCULARITY AND CROSS STRIATION. I SIMPLY CANNOT GET THOSE KIND OF CROSS STRIATIONS IN MY UPPER PECS AND WE DO THE SAME EXERCISES FOR THAT AREA ONCE A WEEK (3 SETS OF 15 DEGREE INCLINES USING A SMITH MACHINE). I AM ALSO ABLE TO USE MORE WEIGHT ON INCLINES THAN HER SO IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT GENETICS MORE SO THAN ANY OTHER FACTOR DETERMINE MUSCLE GROWTH, SIZE, SHAPE, DETAILS, ETC![/U]

[djdizzy]

Ronnie, I'm 38, 6'5" 210lbs and about 15%BF. I have been working out for 4-5 years regulary now. I have always had sleep issues and they seem to worsen when on gear or if I step up my workouts. I have dropped back to doing the same amount of sets that you are doing on a 4 day split.

Tues - Back/Traps
Thurs - Chest/Bi's
Sat - Legs
Sun - Shoulders/Tri's

Chest 9 sets 3 ex
Lats 12 sets 4 ex
Shoulders 9 sets 3 ex
Biceps 8 sets 2 ex
Triceps 9 sets 3 ex
Quads 10 sets 3 ex
Hams 6 sets 2 ex
Calves 6 sets 2 ex
Abs 6 sets 2 ex
Traps 6 sets 2 ex


I also run 4 miles MWF (non workout days)

I have done 2 cycles previously and I just did a 20week blast in which I finished up PCT a month ago. I lost a little strength but have rebounded and been adding weight the past 2 weeks.

I did back yesterday and felt I had a great work out, squeezing at the top of every rep and really feeling the muscle work the weight and then last night I slept like shit. It worries me that I might be overtraining, yet I still have sleep issues when I have stopped working out to give my body a break for a week.

My thought with my next blast to start at the end of July would be to prime this week (actually doing nothing for a week), deload the following 2 weeks and then start the blast.

What do you think? Also I just did a sleep apnea test but won't get the results for a few weeks.

Good Luck to you and your wife (she is ripped up!) in the upcoming shows!

Thanks!

Forgot to ask, for my previous blast I did 500mg then 750mg test only. For this 2nd blast I'm adding 400mg Deca/week and 50mg Proviron/daily. Can I do 500/750 test again since I am adding a second steroid or do I need to go 750/1000 for this second blast.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie, I'm 38, 6'5" 210lbs and about 15%BF. I have been working out for 4-5 years regulary now. I have always had sleep issues and they seem to worsen when on gear or if I step up my workouts. I have dropped back to doing the same amount of sets that you are doing on a 4 day split.

Tues - Back/Traps
Thurs - Chest/Bi's
Sat - Legs
Sun - Shoulders/Tri's

Chest 9 sets 3 ex
Lats 12 sets 4 ex
Shoulders 9 sets 3 ex
Biceps 8 sets 2 ex
Triceps 9 sets 3 ex
Quads 10 sets 3 ex
Hams 6 sets 2 ex
Calves 6 sets 2 ex
Abs 6 sets 2 ex
Traps 6 sets 2 ex


I also run 4 miles MWF (non workout days)

I have done 2 cycles previously and I just did a 20week blast in which I finished up PCT a month ago. I lost a little strength but have rebounded and been adding weight the past 2 weeks.

I did back yesterday and felt I had a great work out, squeezing at the top of every rep and really feeling the muscle work the weight and then last night I slept like shit. It worries me that I might be overtraining, yet I still have sleep issues when I have stopped working out to give my body a break for a week.

My thought with my next blast to start at the end of July would be to prime this week (actually doing nothing for a week), deload the following 2 weeks and then start the blast.

What do you think? Also I just did a sleep apnea test but won't get the results for a few weeks.

Good Luck to you and your wife (she is ripped up!) in the upcoming shows!

Thanks!

Forgot to ask, for my previous blast I did 500mg then 750mg test only. For this 2nd blast I'm adding 400mg Deca/week and 50mg Proviron/daily. Can I do 500/750 test again since I am adding a second steroid or do I need to go 750/1000 for this second blast. You can keep test dosages the same since a second anabolic is being added. If it's not sleep apnea you could be one of these people who if work out late in the day overstimulation their CNS-hence causing insomnia. I do not know your work load outside the gym? Do you work out side? Do you lift at work? Are you eating a lot at night? Are you taking pre-workout in the evening? And it could be that you just have some insomnia. Plus androgens can make insomia worse and why run 4 miles per day as a bodybuilder?! I need more detailed info to try and figure it out.

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[djdizzy]

You can keep test dosages the same since a second anabolic is being added. If it's not sleep apnea you could be one of these people who if work out late in the day overstimulation their CNS-hence causing insomnia. I do not know your work load outside the gym? Do you work out side? Do you lift at work? Are you eating a lot at night? Are you taking pre-workout in the evening? And it could be that you just have some insomnia. Plus androgens can make insomia worse and why run 4 miles per day as a bodybuilder?! I need more detailed info to try and figure it out.

I am not doing this to compete, I am doing it for health and vanity. Before I started working out I was as high as 250lbs and about 25% BF. Before my first blast I was the lowest I've weighed in years, 195 and 13%BF. I went up to 225 on the blast and have leveled out at 212 and 15%BF after PCT and trying to drop the BF a little more before the next blast.

I do morning workouts, up at 430 or 530am depending on the day. I am an assistant editor so I sit in front of a computer all day. I have 7 meals a day spread out every 2-3 hours. I get to bed between 930-10 nightly. I have noticed if I work late(which is often in my field) and have dinner later, I have to skip my pre-bed shake or make it very small as a full stomach has messed with my sleep.

Currently eating:
Meal 1
40g protein(5 egg whites, protein powder), 1/2 cup oatmeal shake

Workout

Meal 2a (post workout shake)
50g protein(protein powder), 3/4 cup oatmeal shake

Meal 2b (after getting ready for work)
1 slice ezekial bread, 1 slice lowfat swiss cheese, 2 whole eggs, 2 egg whites, 1 serving low fat turkey sausage

Meal 3
Banana, protein shake, carbmaster yogurt

Meal 4
Varies, either chicken breast or ground turkey with brown rice or steamed veggies

Meal 5
Beef jerky, carbmaster yogurt, 12 almonds

Meal 6
Varies, chicken breast or steak with steamed veggies or sweet potato

Meal 7 (right before bed)
Cottage cheese and casein shake

I usually add more carbs only on workout days (more fruits-bananas, grapefruit, apples) and when on cycle I eat bigger portions

I usually do stair master or eliptical for cardio when on cycle (for some reason its hard for me to run on gear, not sure why) So I have only been running since a week or 2 after my blast ended.

I have taken the past week off working out and have only been running every other day and have noticed improvements in my sleep. I still usually am awake before my alarm goes off. Should get my apnea results back next week.

I start my deload tomorrow and head back to the gym.

Hope this info might help and thanks for all your input!!!!

[ricky23]

[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5687686]

our inclined barbell bench is not adjustable and prob 30 degrees, is this too much and be a waiste of time? IT IS UNLESS YO ARE GENTICALLY GIFTED IN UPPER CHEST AREA. DO DUMBBELL INCLINES USING AN ADJUSTABLE SEAT OR SMITH MACHINE IS EVEN BETTER. USE A MEDIUM/CLOSE GRIP TO INCREASE RANGE OF MOTION u can feel it working very high onda chest. DO YOU GET SORE IN UPPER CHEST AREA OR FRONT DELTS? IF YOU HAVE A SHALLOW UPPER CHEST ODDS ARE GOOD IT WILL NEVER DO A LOT AS THE UPPER CHEST IS LIKE CALVES (YOU EITHER HAVE IT OR YOU DON'T BUT IT CAN BE IMPROVED) also i still wasnt given accutane but was given tetralysal. been taking them since saturday and since monday ive a permanent pain in my right hamstring out of no where , its like ive pulled or strained it and feels the same if ive my leg straight or bent, wudnt have anything to do with weakening the tendons or anything like uve mentioned to me or have i just strained it unknowns to myself ? IT HAPPENED SO FAST ITS PROBABLY JUST A STRAIN.[/QUOTE][B]NOTE: [/B][U]HERES A PICTURE I TOOK OF MY WIFE A FEW DAYS AGO. NOTICE HOW HER UPPER CHEST HAS A LOT OF VASCULARITY AND CROSS STRIATION. I SIMPLY CANNOT GET THOSE KIND OF CROSS STRIATIONS IN MY UPPER PECS AND WE DO THE SAME EXERCISES FOR THAT AREA ONCE A WEEK (3 SETS OF 15 DEGREE INCLINES USING A SMITH MACHINE). I AM ALSO ABLE TO USE MORE WEIGHT ON INCLINES THAN HER SO IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT GENETICS MORE SO THAN ANY OTHER FACTOR DETERMINE MUSCLE GROWTH, SIZE, SHAPE, DETAILS, ETC![/U]

wow! i think she can easily get her pro card! looks awesome. ronnie do you think without your back injuries and surgeries you would have tried to turn pro?

[ridedivefx]

Hi Ron,

Wat is your opinion and recommendation of Igf-1 LR3 and its use either during blast or in PCT? Is it worth the money? And what about other designer peptides ghrp, cjc etc...

Thanks

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hi Ron,

Wat is your opinion and recommendation of Igf-1 LR3 and its use either during blast or in PCT? Is it worth the money? And what about other designer peptides ghrp, cjc etc...IGF-1 is best used in conjunction with growth hormone and I would run it during a reload. The other peptides would be more suited for PCT but I would spend my money elsewhere.Thanks

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[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=ricky23;5689774]

wow! i think she can easily get her pro card! looks awesome. ronnie do you think without your back injuries and surgeries you would have tried to turn pro?

Since my quads use to be one of my best body parts before the back injury, I would say yes it would have been a possibility.

Heres a couple of pics taken of my wife this past weekend at the pool. She's under two weeks out from her show now. Wish her luck next friday july 22!

[ricky23]

[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5691297]

Since my quads use to be one of my best body parts before the back injury, I would say yes it would have been a possibility.

Heres a couple of pics taken of my wife this past weekend at the pool. She's under two weeks out from her show now. Wish her luck next friday july 22!

she looks better than half the pros out there! i'll be very surprised if she doesn't place 1st - best of luck!