Papi93's Phera Plex Workout Log

[Papi93]

I ran my Phera Plex Cycle with 20mg ED for 4 weeks. I decided to start my Phera Plex doses on 1/21/06. I wanted it into my system before I started my first workout of the week.
My support supplements were fish oil capsules, niacin, and The Perfect Cycle. I should have included something for blood pressure but didn't want to break the bank account so I picked the supplements that I considered the most important. I'm no supplement guru, I'm a training guru so I definitely have room for improvement with my cycle and PCT suggestions. Any help will be appreciated! Here we go!

[Papi93]

1/23/06

My program design involves two upper body days and two lower body days. I am not a bodybuilder, I am a former martial artist. Currently, I'm looking into getting back into shape to get back in again. I'm just starting my journey.

Decline Barbell Press 200(5)/205(5)/210(5)/215(5)
DB Bench Press 75(6)/80(6)/85(6)/90(6)
Seated Cable Rows 160(8)/160(8)/160(8)/160(8)
Seated, Chest-Supported Machine Rows 85(12)/85(12)/85(12)
Ab Machine 50(11)/60(8)/60(8)/60(8)

[Papi93]

I'm going to use the decline press as an example of my strength gains. Before I started my Phera Plex cycle I was having to gradually increase my resistance on the decline press. For example, I would do 4 sets of 5 reps with 190lbs one week and 4 sets of 5 reps with 195lbs the next week. As you can see now, I'm almost increasing by 5lbs on every set!

[Papi93]

1/24/06
Box Squats 145(5)/155(5)/160(5)/165(5)
Back Extensions 15(6)/20(6)/25(6)/25(6)
Single-Leg Squats, Back-Leg Elevated 9/9/9
Dumbbell Shrugs 85(5)/90(5)/95(5)

[Papi93]

My first two workouts are for strength and the last two workouts are for hypertrophy.

1/26/06
Bench Presses 160(8)/165(8)/170(8)
Lying Triceps Extensions 90(5)/90(5)/90(5)
Lat Pulldowns to the Front 160(6)/160(6)/160(6)
Seated DB Shoulder Presses 55(8)/55(8)/55(8)
Preacher Machine Curls 60(8)/65(8)/70(8)
DB Side Bends 40(8)/40(8)/40(8)

[Papi93]

1/27/06

Deadlifts 135(8)/135(8)/135(8)
Reverse Dumbbell Lunges 20(8)/20(8)/20(8)
Lying Leg Curls 110(8)/110(8)/110(8)
Toe Press Machine 190(8)/190(8)/190(8)
Seated Calf Raises 70(8)/70(8)/70(80)
Barbell Shrugs 155(7)/155(7)/155(7)

That finishes the first week.

[novastepp]

swesome detail Papi, im keeping one almost identical which i will post after im finished too...

[Papi93]

swesome detail Papi, im keeping one almost identical which i will post after im finished too...

I'm looking forward to seeing your journal, Nova!

[Bojangles69]

sputnik it was your thread that ultimately persuaded me to use pp and im am seeing great gains as well on my first week only, thanks to all of you. and the calorie thing is a good point id prob revert back to my average calorie diet had you not stressed that point. and papi i hope you keep your all your gains, just keep your mindset on constant improvement and im sure youll be fine.

[Papi93]

2/17/06

Deadlifts 165(8)/165(8)/165(8)
Reverse Dumbbell Lunges 40(8)/40(8)/40(8)
Lying Leg Curls 155(6)/155(6)/155(6)
Toe Press Machine 250(8)/250(8)/250(8)
Seated Calf Raises 90(8)/90(8)/90(8)
*Seated Dumbbell Shrugs 50(8)/50(8)/50(8)

*My legs were very tired so I took a seat and put all the stress on my upper traps.

My deadlift went up another 10lbs per set this week. I am, finally, feeling stronger in this lift but it is hard to make progress I saw in the decline press. Patience is a virtue with this exercise.

[Papi93]

I started this journey at 195lbs. and on 2/17/06, I weighed in at 209lbs. 14lbs in 4 weeks was my total bodyweight gain. 3.5lbs per week was what I average in weight gain. I did not have my bodyfat percentage taken but I can I added a little bodyfat. Definitely worth the investment of $25 for a month's supply!

My PCT is going to involve Retain (3 pills) and PCT (3 pills) ED for 4 weeks. I will also be taking nolva at 40mg ED for 2 weeks and at 20mg ED for 2 weeks. The Perfect Cycle, fish oils, and niacin will be run for support. I'm going to continue my log for the Phera Plex PCT (4 weeks).

The journey continues...

[Papi93]

sputnik it was your thread that ultimately persuaded me to use pp and im am seeing great gains as well on my first week only, thanks to all of you. and the calorie thing is a good point id prob revert back to my average calorie diet had you not stressed that point. and papi i hope you keep your all your gains, just keep your mindset on constant improvement and im sure youll be fine.

Thanks for the encouragement, Bojangles.

[Milky87]

Good stuff Papi.

Did you experience any sides? Im especially interested to know about your hunger and libido

[Papi93]

Good stuff Papi.

Did you experience any sides? Im especially interested to know about your hunger and libido

Sides: Facial acne, hair loss, facial hair grew faster, and increased aggression. I don't mind the increased aggression; I like it.

My appetite was out of control. I felt like going to a buffet everyday. I could not get enough calories in. Libido remained normal (thank God).

[Papi93]

2/20/06 - PCT

Decline Barbell Presses 250(5)/250(5)/250(5)/250(5)
Dumbbell Bench Presses 100(6)/100(6)/100(6)/100(6)
Supinated-Grip Bent-Over Barbell Rows 160(6)/165(5)/165(5)/165(5)
Three-Point Dumbbell Rows 85(6)/85(6)/85(6)/85(6)
Ab Machine 80(8)/80(8)/80(8)/80(8)

Wow, that was a great workout, for PCT that is. I thought I had plateaued in the decline press but increased by one rep on each set. I was stronger in every exercise! A great start to PCT and the fear of losing strength has faded.

[mg316]

awesome cycle log, keep us updated on the pct

[Papi93]

awesome cycle log, keep us updated on the pct

Thanks! I think I will do fine, in PCT, based off of my last workout. My main concern will be after the 4 weeks of PCT. Do I run another cycle or do a natural month?

[LetsGetItOn]

Sides: Facial acne, hair loss, facial hair grew faster, and increased aggression. I don't mind the increased aggression; I like it.

How bad was the hair loss your talking about? Take anything for it? Great thread btw man, congrats on the gains. I'm really interesting in trying out a PP cycle.

[Papi93]

How bad was the hair loss your talking about? Take anything for it? Great thread btw man, congrats on the gains. I'm really interesting in trying out a PP cycle.

I asked my girlfriend and another female friend of mine and they said that I did not lose any hair the first time. Maybe it was in my head. I didn't notice any difference on my second cycle. I will update my log with the new workouts soon.

[Milky87]

I would take the month off so that your tendons and ligaments can have a chance to catch up

[Papi93]

I would take the month off so that your tendons and ligaments can have a chance to catch up

Once again, thanks for being the voice of reason. When you are on-cycle, it's amazing how fast your muscles strengthen, in comparison to your tendons and ligaments.
I think that is how many bodybuilders end up rupturing their pec, bicep, etc. Their muscles become, on-cycle, become so strong, so quickly that they experience a rupture.
I have never heard of a natural lifter with a rupture.
Good advice, as always!

[Papi93]

2/21/06

The gym was overcrowded and I wasn't able to do box squats until my last exercise. This throws off any comparison to last week's weight. I hate when that happens. All of a sudden, one day in the gym, you get all of these college punks who decide to come in and do cheat curls with 65lbs in the squat rack. Not to mention, it's 10 sets supersetted with two other biceps exercises.

Box Squats 200(4)/200(4)/200(4)/200(4)
Single-Leg Squats, Back-Leg Elevated 25(8)/25(8)/25(8)
Back Extensions 40(6)/40(6)/40(6)/40(6)
Shrugs 180(5)/185(5)/190(5)

My Box Squats only plateaued because I had to do them last in my workout. If they were first, I know that I would have added at least a rep on each set.

[Papi93]

I've noticed that nolva hasn't hypertrophied my testicles like clomid did, for my last PCT. I've only taken 40mg ED for 5 days so I know I will have to be more patient before I can make any comparisons. On the bright side, not much PCT acne and emotional sides from clomid. It's still early though.

[mg316]

I know I will have to be more patient before I can make any comparisons. On the bright side, not much PCT acne and emotional sides from clomid. It's still early though.

The first week into my pct my acne on my back got worse than it was when I was on pp, I will let you know how my 2nd week of pct goes

[lc1987]

hi guys i am sorry to interrupt. i just have a few questions. i took phera-plex back in january and then followed the anabolicx.com's website's suggestion on how to cycle it. here it is. http://anabolicx.com/biggains.html i was really stupid so i decided to run the cycle but instead of the pct that they suggested, i took cellucor p6. i had some decent gains but my only concern is, they didn't say anything about liver protectors. now that i found this great website, i learned that phera-plex is hard on the liver. so i now i think that my liver is pretty much screwed cuz i ran it for a month and i only took multivitamins along with pp. do you think i have some liver problems now? should i start taking some milk thistle now or is it too late? any help would be appreciated because i am very concerned about my liver. thanks a lot

[Anabolios]

hi guys i am sorry to interrupt. i just have a few questions. i took phera-plex back in january and then followed the anabolicx.com's website's suggestion on how to cycle it. here it is. http://anabolicx.com/biggains.html i was really stupid so i decided to run the cycle but instead of the pct that they suggested, i took cellucor p6. i had some decent gains but my only concern is, they didn't say anything about liver protectors. now that i found this great website, i learned that phera-plex is hard on the liver. so i now i think that my liver is pretty much screwed cuz i ran it for a month and i only took multivitamins along with pp. do you think i have some liver problems now? should i start taking some milk thistle now or is it too late? any help would be appreciated because i am very concerned about my liver. thanks a lot

NOOO you are over-reacting...sure it was a bad choice but imo you will be fine but ONLY blood work can determine this on liver values and such...and its never too late to take the milk thistle..its supposed to generate new liver cells so why not give it a go and get the blood work done? keep us posted

[novastepp]

you're taking clomid?

[Papi93]

you're taking clomid?

No, but I did for my last PCT. I guess I should have worded that sentence better.

[*Narkissos*]

Great log.. love the detail.

~Narkissos

[novastepp]

Papi, if you do indeed try another Phera-plex cycle, how long are you going to train naturally after PCT? i am going to do another but i am going to train naturally for 4 weeks after PCT then take 10 days off. i want to make sure my tendons and ligaments are up to par before i tax my body with the great strength gains Phera-plex has given me. Also, (keeping in mind you aren't finished with your PCT yet) what changes do you plan to make to your cycle, obvious we had discussed BP supps, but what would you include or take out? just curious as to what you are thinking about getting the maximum if you do another cycle.

[Papi93]

Papi, if you do indeed try another Phera-plex cycle, how long are you going to train naturally after PCT? i am going to do another but i am going to train naturally for 4 weeks after PCT then take 10 days off. i want to make sure my tendons and ligaments are up to par before i tax my body with the great strength gains Phera-plex has given me. Also, (keeping in mind you aren't finished with your PCT yet) what changes do you plan to make to your cycle, obvious we had discussed BP supps, but what would you include or take out? just curious as to what you are thinking about getting the maximum if you do another cycle.

I going to train for 4 weeks, naturally (after my 4 weeks of PCT). That's the plan. Nothing is in stone yet. I agree with your tendons statement. I don't need any rupture pec or bicep. Taking a week off, after a hard strength training cycle, is an intelligent decision. You will come back stronger, in the long run, as a result.

I might bump my doses up to 30mg when I plateau, next time. I'd rather stay at 20mg considering the androgenic sides. I'll decide that for sure when I'm doing the cycle. For now I will plan on 20mg ED of 4 weeks. I'll pick up some Hawthorne Berry and a dosage of 1500mg-2000mg ED. Any sites where I can pick this up cheap?

I'm going with a research chemical PCT next time. I'll drop the PCT (by anabolic xtreme) and replace it with clomid. Clomid is very costly so I will have to drop the retain. I will go with Clomid and Nolva, as I am disappointed in my nolva-only and OTC experiment. I am retaining my gains but libidio issues are existing. With a female that is a freak, I don't want to take chances here.

[Milky87]

It amazes me that you notice more testicular hypertrophy with clomid given that they both have the same action

[Papi93]

It amazes me that you notice more testicular hypertrophy with clomid given that they both have the same action

My brother is noticing the same thing. He did a Phera Plex cycle as well. Same dosage and everything. He's ready to toss the nolva in the garbage can as well. After he is finished with his nolva, he wants a bottle of clomid too. I'm just waiting things out until I find out if that controversy about Lion is true or not. His products have always been solid in the past. Do think this is a bad batch of nolva?

[novastepp]

Couldn't you just add AR-R's liquidex to your nolva only PCT in place of Tongkat or Trib?

[Papi93]

Couldn't you just add AR-R's liquidex to your nolva only PCT in place of Tongkat or Trib?

I wanted to wait until the controversy cleared up because those research chems are not cheap.

[Milky87]

^ He might be a little reserved to that idea given he suspects getting dodgy nolva from lion.

[Papi93]

^ He might be a little reserved to that idea given he suspects getting dodgy nolva from lion.

Right on, bro.

[novastepp]

yes you are very right...
i should have said "if you wanted to" couldn't you add liquidex to your PCT in place of trib or tongkat... meaning i thought liquidex had the same effects...

[Papi93]

yes you are very right...
i should have said "if you wanted to" couldn't you add liquidex to your PCT in place of trib or tongkat... meaning i thought liquidex had the same effects...

I'm already taking an AI, PCT, so I did not want to add liquidex on top of that because it could be harsh on blood lipid profiles.

[novastepp]

Holy Shit, Papi did you ever have bad back pumps? today was my 3rd leg day on PP, and today was Terrible! i made it through my 5 sets of squats, but damn i stretched after every set and did everything normally but i had some crazy pumps today.