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    Well, I have been on the same gear for some months now. So, it's time to change up. No use in plateauing, and I'm not one who believes in using the same gear year round. I could have doubled up on the stack I was on, but that would have put me at 700mg of tren ace per week = no sleep

    Have increased my calories substantially, and I am actually taking a day or 2 off from the gym each week. It feels odd not to be in the gym every day, and I find myself feeling guilty about it. But, I know I should rest.

    Weight 95kg

    Testosterone enanthate 400mg eod
    Deca 200mg eod
    Eq 200mg eod
    Dbol 50mg ed

    HGH 10iu's ed (6 on/1 off)
    Lr3 IGF-1 160mcg ed

    Will not run arimidex until I feel I need it as I know from experience that an absence of estrogen will hinder my bulking gains.

    Vitamins, whey protein, glutamine and creatine as usual.

    Amazing stuff Lr3 IGF-1, I am not able to increase my bodyfat percentage on it. Not sure if it is recommendable for bulking or not. Will find out.

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    Great to see you picked back up on your log; it's always good reading.

    You've definitely trimmed up. Your look's much more eye-pleasing now. I also see that you've lowered your AAS doses significantly, which I think is smart.

    Good luck man.

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    Is your IGF a brand name or chinese generic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titleist View Post
    Great to see you picked back up on your log; it's always good reading.

    You've definitely trimmed up. Your look's much more eye-pleasing now. I also see that you've lowered your AAS doses significantly, which I think is smart.

    Good luck man.
    Thanks. I appreciate the encouragement.

    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyboy View Post
    Is your IGF a brand name or chinese generic?
    Everything I take is made in China except for my EAS whey protein, creatine and glutamine. Whoever imports EAS is making a killing.

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    I've run the chinese before but I was using so many compounds at once it's hard to say if it was effective.

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    Same here. All I know is that the combination of everything is working. My vascularity is coming out like never before, and my strength is going through the roof. I pig out and cannot seem to get full either. Weight keeps going up also. All this with no increase in bf%.

    One side effect for sure: it increases the size of your testicles. No joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderin View Post
    Same here. All I know is that the combination of everything is working. My vascularity is coming out like never before, and my strength is going through the roof. I pig out and cannot seem to get full either. Weight keeps going up also. All this with no increase in bf%.

    One side effect for sure: it increases the size of your testicles. No joke.
    Testicles? That would be nice. I havent seen mine in a while.

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    My strength is increasing amazingly fast, and my vascularity makes my arms and legs look as if there are baby snakes all over them. My stomach is a wee bit stretched out from the volume of food going in, but bf% has not increased at all.

    I think I have finally stumbled onto something here. The test prop, masterone prop and tren ace are still in my system, and they are interacting with the Dbol I started last week. It is a very synergistic bulking combination when eating like I am. No way the test e, deca and EQ have hit me yet. I am contemplating stopping the test e, deca and EQ and continuing with the tren, masterone, test combo. Opinions?

    Bodyweight: 97kg

    Arm day: All movements are done in a very strict manner

    Standing bicep EZ curls 125lbs x 8 x 3
    Lying tricep headcrushers (nosebreakers) 145lbs x 8 x 3

    Tricep press down 150lbs x 6 x 3
    Bicep Hammer curls 70lbs x 6 x 3

    Standing tricep single dumbell overhead press behind neck 130lbs x 14 x 1, 12 x 1, 10 x 1
    Spider curls 40lbs x 8 x 3

    Felt a bit nauseous from the intensity of my workout so I went to talk to some of the pretty girls on the treadmills. Guess what, 5 minutes later I was feeling good again Was it the smell of estrogen or just their pretty faces, intelligent eyes and naturally hard bodies with not a bit of cellulite to be found anywhere? Whatever it was it worked.

    These girls can have babies, and 6 months after the baby is born you cannot tell they were ever pregnant, tight stomach and tight ass. Gotta love it here. The only ones who get large are the ones eating Western food.

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    Any new news on results =)

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    I'm so jealous of you right now

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    The pen your using seems to be very convenient, i am tempted are they readily available and could they be used with blue top generics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KZRSOIZE View Post
    The pen your using seems to be very convenient, i am tempted are they readily available and could they be used with blue top generics?
    Yes, of course.

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    *Unless your intake of carbs is almost perfect, the following can possibly kill you.


    The combination my diet, exercise, sleep, HGH, Humalog and Lr3 IGF-1 pre-workout along with my current AAS cycle of Test e (had to switch back..my glutes were getting too knotty) tren ace, masterone prop and dianabol is transforming my body and taking me to another level.

    The masterone eliminates the need for an anti e. The tren and dbol are giving me so much extra strength and energy. And I am not sure what is keeping my bf% so low and making me vascular like I never imagined before. Dear God, I am consuming 4000+ calories per day and drinking large bottles of Minute Maid Orange juice drink all day long.

    I make my pre, during and post workout shake before I take my 5iu's of HGH, 75mcg Lr3 IGF-1 and 15iu's of Humalog . I use 150g of EAS whey protein, 10g of Twin Labs glutamine and 10g of creatine plus 175 grams of glucose in 1 liter of 2% milk and add a cup of whole Australian oats. I blend it for 1 full minute, and then I drink half. I take my injects immediately afterwards. I always consume my carbs right before slin injects never after.

    I drink the rest throughout the rest of my workout, and then 15 minutes after my workout, I eat about 50 grams of protein mashed potatoes and corn.

    Did I mention the amazing pumps you get with this?

    Loving it!

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    Weight: 99kg (218lbs)
    Height: almost 175cm (5'9")

    Today is day 10 without cigarettes. I feel I finally have it beat, but still taking it one day at a time. Also down to 1 1/2 cups of coffee per day. With all this tren, I simply don't need any more. Already hyper as is.

    Legs are starting to look a bit freaky with veins jumping out everywhere. I have to differ on opinion with those who say that Lr3 IGF-1 doesn't cause site growth. I started take all my GH, Lr3 IGF-1 and insulin intra-muscular into my quads and they're really growing fast. There were simply too many bruise spots on my abs and this way I don't bruise.

    The tren is not giving me too many hard sides. I learned to keep my anger in check a long time ago, but the vivid dreams and the fact that I wake up to eat twice during the middle of the night let me know it's there along with that dark orange pee



    Leg day:

    Leg press (full movement) followed by calf toe press:

    100kg (220lbs) x 12 x 1
    180kg (396lbs) x 10 x 1
    260kg (572lbs) x 8 x 1
    340kg (748lbs) x 7 x 1
    420kg (924lbs) x 6 x 3
    300kg (660lbs) x 8 x 1
    180kg (396lbs) x 8 x 1

    Limp away towards to leg extension and leg curl. Done in tandem, one set on one machine right after one set on the other.

    120 x 12 x 3, drop set last set to 60

    equal weight on both

    120 x 12 x 3, drop set last set to 60

    crawl to calf machine

    80kg x 8 x 3, drop set last set to 60kg

    Right as I got off of the lying leg curl machine, a girl in her mid twenties comes up and asks me if I will show her how to use the leg kick back machine for glutes. Being the nice guy I am, how could I not help? Getting her into position with one hand on the front of her thigh and the other on her glute with her making moaning noises and then smiling at me.....well it made for a nice ending to a long day. Yes, I am married, and that was all that happened. God bless 'em.

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    Weight: 100kg

    I think I forgot to mention that I did not continue the deca and eq. There was just no reason to switch up with the results I am seeing.

    Does my belly stick out a bit because I am eating like a pig (very little fat) and so full all the time? Yes, but my abs are so visible they bulge through my workout shirt

    Holding some water but no moon face.

    You know how people always say that something magic happens when you go over 2g of test per week? Well, I didn't need that much for it to happen.

    The magic started with the following bulker coming right off a cutter.

    Test e 400mg eod
    Tren ace 100mg ed
    Masterone prop 100mg ed
    Dbol 75mg ed
    GH 10iu ed (5iu 8am/5iu 4pm preworkout)
    Lr3 IGF-1 "I lowered this one" (50mcg 8am/50mcg 4pm preworkout)
    Novalog (insulin aspart) (15iu pre-workout)
    T4 100mcg ed

    And of course, all of this would be a waste without an impeccable diet and supplementation.

    I thought my body was "tricked out" and that I had reached my limit. How wrong I was.

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    have you ever use PGCL for site growing or fatloss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrtosa View Post
    nice....its sounds great im half asian but never live there i love to go there some day...
    My friend, you have half a world and half of your own culture to discover. I have so many Asian-European and Asian-American friends who have experienced a profound personal growth by coming. I cannot tell you how much I recommend you discover your roots. 6,000 years of recorded history are waiting for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrtosa View Post
    have you ever use PGCL for site growing or fatloss?
    I have not. You'll have to ask Tai about that.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=298908

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    i will be in china by the olimpics...wish me luck with the ladys..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrtosa View Post
    i will be in china by the olimpics...wish me luck with the ladys..
    Just smile a lot, be friendly, talk to them and try to learn a little conversational Mandarin Chinese (standard dialect of Beijing). You'll be popular for sure.

    Please try not to break hearts. They can fall in love easily and many are quite innocent. They see you, and they see a husband.

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    thanks for the advice...

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    My secret shake

    Here is my pre-workout (1/2) and during (1/2) my workout protein/carb shake secret. Half is drunk before and half during. Taken along with GH, Lr3 IGF-1 and Novolog. I try to make sure I drink it all before my workout ends. So very many carbs and not an extra gram of fat added to my physique.

    Large, visible veins all over my quads, lower abs, shoulders and arms now.

    *6 scoops EAS whey protein = 720 calories (carbs 18g, fat 12g, protein 138g)

    *175grams fructose = 644 calories (carbs 175g, fat 0g, protein 0g)

    *1 cup oats, dry = 607 calories (carbs 103.4g, fat 10.8g, protein 26.3g)

    *1 liter whole milk = 619 calories (carbs 46.6g, fat 33.5g, protein 33.2g)

    Total: 2590 calories (carbs 343g, fat 56.3g, protein 197.5g)

    I place all ingredients in the food processor and blend well.

    I am in preparation to start running this protocol twice daily. "The Next level."
    Last edited by thunderin; 03-19-2008 at 07:49 AM.

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    mmmm i bet that tastes good lol.

    you posting any pics anytime soon?
    reading your thread and seeing what gains you made are impressive, keep it up

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    Thumbs up The Next Level

    Here it is:

    A comparison of less than 2 months difference.

    The first photos at 91kg (left-hand side 200lbs.) and the second pics at 101kg (right-hand side 222lbs.). Holding a lot more water, but bf% has not increased.

    Bulking with the above and Test e, masterone prop and tren ace along with 4,000 calories per day to achieve these results.

    Have doubled up to twice daily Novolog injects (15iu x 2 ed) and increased calories to 6,000+.

    Maybe the combination of GH, Lr3 IGF-1 and Novolog insulin is working? Could be.....
    Last edited by thunderin; 03-21-2008 at 08:42 PM.

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    you look great man!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrtosa View Post
    you look great man!!
    Thanks but I have a lot of weaknesses to improve on yet.

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    6 weeks out

    All my efforts over the past 1 1/2 years (not to mention the 27 years since I first walked into a gym) since I started this log are coming to fruition. Apologies for not having kept it up to date until now.

    I am 6 weeks out from my competition and weigh 94kg (206lbs) with height 175cm (5'9"). I know I still look like crap, but I plan to come in at about 88-89kg. These were taken in a rush and the posing and light leave a lot to be desired.

    Any and all comments and suggestions welcome. Please see photos below.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderin View Post
    All my efforts over the past 1 1/2 years (not to mention the 27 years since I first walked into a gym) since I started this log are coming to fruition. Apologies for not having kept it up to date until now.

    I am 6 weeks out from my competition and weigh 94kg (206lbs) with height 175cm (5'9"). I know I still look like crap, but I plan to come in at about 88-89kg. These were taken in a rush and the posing and light leave a lot to be desired.

    Any and all comments and suggestions welcome. Please see photos below.

    Thanks
    U look great!!!!! I just got 1000ius of gh gonna run tren,test C and gh soon..

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    Quote Originally Posted by OH REALLY View Post
    i take it also but i also use ghrp6 with it i was told that the hep a does nothing to help but like i said i still use it
    It may certainly be doing some good, and it is also being run in conjunction with pyridostigmine.

    Quote Originally Posted by OH REALLY View Post
    cjc at 2mg every day that build up must be highsince it last in you body for 7 days that means that by the 7 day you would have 3.8 mg in you
    Probably more than that, but something is definitely working right.

    Quote Originally Posted by DEVLDOG View Post
    nice thread,you have a pic to post up??
    I believe 5 photos were posted on 8 September and can be found on page 8 of this very thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by customworksking View Post
    U look great!!!!! I just got 1000ius of gh gonna run tren,test C and gh soon..
    Again, I cannot reiterate strongly enough that this cycle is not recommended for others.

    ***Thunderin is a fictional character, and I am simply his alter-ego. We do not condone nor promote the use of any illegal substances anywhere. This and all Thunderin threads are strictly for entertainment purposes only and should not be followed nor recommended by anyone.***

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    Thanks for the pics. Im the same height, and your pre-hgh weight (200lbs). I wanted to see what i might look like +20lbs. At least your pics give me some idea. I'm ready to start GH for the first time and hoping i come out as good as you have.
    I've been to China a few times now and maybe one day plan to live there. I never had an easy time finding a decent gym. I dont think huge muscles are at the top of most Chinese priorities. Any1 have the same problem finding a good gym?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juice555 View Post
    I never had an easy time finding a decent gym. I dont think huge muscles are at the top of most Chinese priorities. Any1 have the same problem finding a good gym?
    Please check out the Korean Bodybuilding Federation at
    http://bodybuilding.sports.or.kr/

    Please check out the Japanese Bodybuilding Federation at
    http://www.jbbf.jp/

    Please check out the Chinese Bodybuilding Association at
    http://www.cbba.net.cn/

    Bodybuilding and all athletics in general are highly respected in China, Korea and Japan.

    If you need to find a good gym in any of these countries, well you simply didn't put much effort into it. Most all large cities have top-of-the-line gyms with Hammer Strength equipment, not to mention California Fitness, Total Fitness and Fitness First chains.

    Big muscles are much sought after in Asia. Those Olympic gold medals ......even more so. It makes a big difference when a government takes a vested interest in its athletes bringing home the gold.

    See the pics of Mr. Korea below (Lee, Du Hee)
    Last edited by thunderin; 03-21-2008 at 08:42 PM.

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    you look great!!

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    good work

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrtosa View Post
    you look great!!
    Thanks, much appreciated.

    Quote Originally Posted by oc pitbull View Post
    hahah music godsmack badasss. i like that detail.
    Helps with agression.

    Quote Originally Posted by OH REALLY View Post
    good work
    Again, much appreciated.

    Thunderin's diet consists of at least 300g of protein ed from whey isolate, tuna in water and the once a day rib meat beef plate. Yes, It has some fat on it.

    Carbs come from rice, fresh uncooked salad vegetables and low calorie sports drinks.

    He has dropped from a pudgy, bulking slob of 106kg (232lbs) to where he is now at 94kg.

    3 days out from his competition, he will begin 25mg of hydrochlorothiazide twice ed along with spironolactone 25mg once daily along with a potassium supplement to cut excess water while avoiding cramping during poses. Drinking enough water is a must.

    His cycle has changed as he heads for his goal, and again we do not recommend my cycle be considered by anyone. It is posted for informational purposes only.

    Orals:

    Vitamins (multiple B complex - 1 ed, C - 500mg ed, E - 500iu's ed)
    Ephedrine - 25mg, aspirin - 200mg, expresso (3 x ed)
    T4 - 250mcg ed
    Huperzine A - 300mcg ed (100mcg x 3 x ed)
    Pyridostigmine - 60mg (2 x ed)
    Arimidex - 2mg eod

    Injectables: subcutaneous

    rHGH - 16iu's ed (4iu's x 4 x ed)
    CJC 1295 - 2mg ed

    Injectables: intra-muscular

    Testosterone enanthate - 450mg eod
    Drostanolone (Masterone) enanthate - 200mg eod
    Trenbolone enanthate - 200mg eod

    *He had been using the short-estered versions before but he simply could not take the injection pain and coughing any longer.

    ***Thunderin is a fictional character, and I am simply his alter-ego. We do not condone nor promote the use of any illegal substances anywhere. This and all Thunderin threads are strictly for entertainment purposes only and should not be followed nor recommended by anyone.***
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderin View Post
    Thanks, much appreciated.



    Helps with agression.



    Again, much appreciated.

    Thunderin's diet consists of at least 300g of protein ed from whey isolate, tuna in water and the once a day rib meat beef plate. Yes, It has some fat on it.

    Carbs come from rice, fresh uncooked salad vegetables and low calorie sports drinks.

    He has dropped from a pudgy, bulking slob of 106kg (232lbs) to where he is now at 94kg.

    3 days out from his competition, he will begin 25mg of hydrochlorothiazide twice ed along with spironolactone 25mg once daily along with a potassium supplement to cut excess water while avoiding cramping during poses. Drinking enough water is a must.

    His cycle has changed as he heads for his goal, and again we do not recommend my cycle be considered by anyone. It is posted for informational purposes only.

    Orals:

    Vitamins (multiple B complex - 1 ed, C - 500mg ed, E - 500iu's ed)
    Ephedrine - 25mg, aspirin - 200mg, expresso (3 x ed)
    T4 - 250mcg ed
    Huperzine A - 300mcg ed (100mcg x 3 x ed)
    Pyridostigmine - 60mg (2 x ed)
    Arimidex - 2mg eod

    Injectables: subcutaneous

    rHGH - 16iu's ed (4iu's x 4 x ed)
    CJC 1295 - 2mg ed

    Injectables: intra-muscular

    Testosterone enanthate - 450mg eod
    Drostanolone (Masterone) enanthate - 200mg eod
    Trenbolone enanthate - 200mg eod

    *He had been using the short-estered versions before but he simply could not take the injection pain and coughing any longer.

    ***Thunderin is a fictional character, and I am simply his alter-ego. We do not condone nor promote the use of any illegal substances anywhere. This and all Thunderin threads are strictly for entertainment purposes only and should not be followed nor recommended by anyone.***
    cjc at 2mg every day that build up must be highsince it last in you body for 7 days that means that by the 7 day you would have 17.8 mg in you
    Last edited by OH REALLY; 09-16-2008 at 03:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OH REALLY View Post
    cjc at 2mg every day that build up must be highsince it last in you body for 7 days that means that by the 7 day you would have 3.8 mg in you
    OH REALLY

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    Quote Originally Posted by stallion_1 View Post
    OH REALLY
    Stop chasing me.

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    do you think the hep a is working

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    Quote Originally Posted by OH REALLY View Post
    do you think the hep a is working
    I can't really say with any certainty with 16iu's of rHGH on top of the CJC 1295, but I like to think it is.




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    i take it also but i also use ghrp6 with it i was told that the hep a does nothing to help but like i said i still use it

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    nice thread,you have a pic to post up??

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