2007-08 HGH Cycle 10iu's

[jerseyboy]

Damn bro. You must stick out like a sore thumb over there with all the half pint, frosty white, little asian guys over there.

[thunderin]

Damn bro. You must stick out like a sore thumb over there with all the half pint, frosty white, little asian guys over there.

Kind of nice. Surprisingly enough, people are getting taller over here. Lot's of long-legged Chinese beauties. Sucks being married sometimes especially with all the topless Russian girls here. 5'10" or so with butts like shetland ponies

[thunderin]

What they say about something magic happening when you go over 2g of test per week is true. I was in the gym tonight doing shoulders and everything felt so very light.

Standing military press 100kg (222lbs) x 10 x 3
Standing upright rows 100kg (222lbs) x 10 x 3
Dumbell lateral flyes 60lbs x 10 x 3

Just got home and I feel like I am ready to do it all again....that is after I eat of course

Switching gear next week to the following mass cycle:

300mg test prop ed
100mg tren ace ed
100mg npp ed
100mg eq prop ed
(total of only 3mL AAS inject ed)
80mg dbol ed
10iu gh ed
12iu slin ed
50mcg T4 ed

[ZaneFan]

Thunderin, as always thanks for being upfront about exactly what you do.

With your mass cycle are you including any anti-estrogens?

[ironaddict69]

thunderin your the man, im thanking you for this too. you go fully into detail with everything, and your totally honest. I love intricate little details about EVERYTHING, because im so damn finicky about what i notice when Im on...well im always "on" but i mean my heavy cycles. Tell me the difference between say, 500 mg test a week and 2000. I know 1500 mg, but how does it FEEL? sex drive, strength etc? I dont get gyno really but ive never gone above 500 mg per week with test. Im wondering which AI you use?

[thunderin]

Thunderin, as always thanks for being upfront about exactly what you do.

With your mass cycle are you including any anti-estrogens?

thunderin your the man, im thanking you for this too. you go fully into detail with everything, and your totally honest. I love intricate little details about EVERYTHING, because im so damn finicky about what i notice when Im on...well im always "on" but i mean my heavy cycles. Tell me the difference between say, 500 mg test a week and 2000. I know 1500 mg, but how does it FEEL? sex drive, strength etc? I dont get gyno really but ive never gone above 500 mg per week with test. Im wondering which AI you use?

Thanks. I believe in telling it like it is. I'm not in it for the money nor for selfish reasons. I lift, train and do what I do because I love the sport. Information is power, and I do not believe in keeping the truth about massive gains secret.

I use arimidex as my anti e at 1-2mg ed. Special note - if I totally eliminate all aromatization my sex drive will decrease and I will not experience huge gains in both mass, strength and endurance. For me, some estrogen must be present in my mass cycle to get the results I'm after.

500mg test ew - I feel good but it would only maintain my current level.

2000mg test ew - I would not recommend this dosage for anyone other than myself as I know exactly how my body will react to it. I experience huge gains across the board and my sex drive is off the scale provided I don't go too heavy on the anti e. Deca and tren can also put a damper on your sex drive. I always keep plenty of vardenafil on hand. Works in 15-20 minutes and keeps it hard as steel regardless of the amount of food I eat.

At one point, I thought 500mg ew was a lot. Then, I realized that testosterone is the "King of the Road" for putting on mass. Nothing and I truly mean nothing has ever packed on the kg's of pure muscle that testosterone has for me.

[ZaneFan]

Thanks T.

About 20 years ago I went up to 1.2 grams of test ew. If you eat enough calories you will have unbelievable recovery time. I was on a 3 on, 1 off routine and even on my day off I would be in the gym. The downside was pretty bad acne especially on the back.

[customworksking]

I too do not like the acne and I am only on 1cc a week of test-e is there anyway to stop the acne? if i ran as much as i see some people I'd never take my shirt off! with GH alone will I get gains or will I need to stack it as said ^^^... with correct cardio/diet etc how long/much will I need to get my body fat down ? I'm 35 185lbs 16% bf like to get below 10%..Great thread BTW! U look super

[ironaddict69]

Thanks. I believe in telling it like it is. I'm not in it for the money nor for selfish reasons. I lift, train and do what I do because I love the sport. Information is power, and I do not believe in keeping the truth about massive gains secret.

I use arimidex as my anti e at 1-2mg ed. Special note - if I totally eliminate all aromatization my sex drive will decrease and I will not experience huge gains in both mass, strength and endurance. For me, some estrogen must be present in my mass cycle to get the results I'm after.

500mg test ew - I feel good but it would only maintain my current level.

2000mg test ew - I would not recommend this dosage for anyone other than myself as I know exactly how my body will react to it. I experience huge gains across the board and my sex drive is off the scale provided I don't go too heavy on the anti e. Deca and tren can also put a damper on your sex drive. I always keep plenty of vardenafil on hand. Works in 15-20 minutes and keeps it hard as steel regardless of the amount of food I eat.

At one point, I thought 500mg ew was a lot. Then, I realized that testosterone is the "King of the Road" for putting on mass. Nothing and I truly mean nothing has ever packed on the kg's of pure muscle that testosterone has for me.

I agree with the estrogen thing if i take nothing, strength and size goes up every week, and sex drive is higher with better estrogen. someday i will try a high amount of test being as the hormone seems rather weak to me, compared to other drugs like tren and deca.

[ZaneFan]

I too do not like the acne and I am only on 1cc a week of test-e is there anyway to stop the acne? if i ran as much as i see some people I'd never take my shirt off! with GH alone will I get gains or will I need to stack it as said ^^^... with correct cardio/diet etc how long/much will I need to get my body fat down ? I'm 35 185lbs 16% bf like to get below 10%..Great thread BTW! U look super

Bodybuilders dont always have the low percentage of body fat they appear to. It's an illusion of sorts because they have so much muscle. The more muscle you have the more body fat you can have and still look terrific. There are other atheletes that have lower body fat especially in track and field. Use the mirror as your guide. 1 gram of test should be done by someone who has done many cycles before and has a near perfect diet. Otherwise you are just wasting your time. Unless you can run 10iu + of gh a day then you should run test as well.

[ironaddict69]

Thanks. I believe in telling it like it is. I'm not in it for the money nor for selfish reasons. I lift, train and do what I do because I love the sport. Information is power, and I do not believe in keeping the truth about massive gains secret.

I use arimidex as my anti e at 1-2mg ed. Special note - if I totally eliminate all aromatization my sex drive will decrease and I will not experience huge gains in both mass, strength and endurance. For me, some estrogen must be present in my mass cycle to get the results I'm after.

500mg test ew - I feel good but it would only maintain my current level.

2000mg test ew - I would not recommend this dosage for anyone other than myself as I know exactly how my body will react to it. I experience huge gains across the board and my sex drive is off the scale provided I don't go too heavy on the anti e. Deca and tren can also put a damper on your sex drive. I always keep plenty of vardenafil on hand. Works in 15-20 minutes and keeps it hard as steel regardless of the amount of food I eat.

At one point, I thought 500mg ew was a lot. Then, I realized that testosterone is the "King of the Road" for putting on mass. Nothing and I truly mean nothing has ever packed on the kg's of pure muscle that testosterone has for me.

I agree with the estrogen thing if i take nothing, strength and size goes up every week, and sex drive is higher with better estrogen. someday i will try a high amount of test being as the hormone seems rather weak to me, compared to other drugs like tren and deca.

[thunderin]

Chest day yesterday:

60kg (132lbs) 10 x 1
100kg (220lbs) 10 x 1
140kg (308lbs) 8 x 1
170kg (374lbs) 6 x 3
Immediately followed by a drop set from hell.

Hammer strength incline press

140kg (308lbs) x 10 x 3

Cable crossovers both incline and decline.

Strange thing, the weight feels so much lighter than before

[plzr8]

moving some good weight bro...keep up the good work & keep us posted

[customworksking]

Bodybuilders dont always have the low percentage of body fat they appear to. It's an illusion of sorts because they have so much muscle. The more muscle you have the more body fat you can have and still look terrific. There are other atheletes that have lower body fat especially in track and field. Use the mirror as your guide. 1 gram of test should be done by someone who has done many cycles before and has a near perfect diet. Otherwise you are just wasting your time. Unless you can run 10iu + of gh a day then you should run test as well.

what do u mean 1gram done by someone who has done many cycles ? what did I do wrong ? this is my 1st cycle in 12yrs ago ..so, I been workingout for 18+months clean ...is Gh the better way for lean mass .

[Titleist]

what do u mean 1gram done by someone who has done many cycles ? what did I do wrong ? this is my 1st cycle in 12yrs ago ..so, I been workingout for 18+months clean ...is Gh the better way for lean mass .

Look bro, you and Zane need to start your own thread. Thunderin has a very interesting thread going that myself and many others enjoy reading. No one appreciates you coming in here and whoring it up, it's just disrespectful. If you have a question, start a thread!

[customworksking]

I tell U what I have never met so many rude people in my life then here, guess its all the extra test or something ..the way I see the thread is to ask someone who know's that's why I even posted.. .. sorry if I didn't run 10 cycles in my life and know it all and have it down to a science like some of u do ..your right why bother even posting...this foram need's threads for everthing..ie: test-e,deca,hgh etc then I/we will not F it up for U because I simply don't know.

[NotSmall]

I tell U what I have never met so many rude people in my life then here, guess its all the extra test or something ..the way I see the thread is to ask someone who know's that's why I even posted.. .. sorry if I didn't run 10 cycles in my life and know it all and have it down to a science like some of u do ..your right why bother even posting...this foram need's threads for everthing..ie: test-e,deca,hgh etc then I/we will not F it up for U because I simply don't know.

LMAO

Stop snivelling and start your own thread.

[Titleist]

I tell U what I have never met so many rude people in my life then here,.

Haha, ever been out into the real world? If we're the rudest people you've met, consider yourself lucky.

guess its all the extra test or something ...

Yeah man, we're all roid ragin' around here.

the way I see the thread is to ask someone who know's that's why I even posted..

If you were asking thunderin I wouldn't have said anything, but you were trying to carry on a conversation with Zanefan on someone else's thread, that is "rude".

.. sorry if I didn't run 10 cycles in my life and know it all and have it down to a science like some of u do ..

You don't have to run 10 cycles to have it "down to a science", you just have to research and start threads asking intelligent questions.

your right why bother even posting...this foram need's threads for everthing..ie: test-e,deca,hgh etc then I/we will not F it up for U because I simply don't know.

Actually, nearly every topic has been covered on the board. All you have to do is use the handy search function located at the top of the page.

[thunderin]

Thanks for stepping in.

Yesterday was back day, and I was shocked.

Bent-over barbell rows (pretty strict)
60kg (132lbs) x 10 x 1
100kg (220lbs) x 10 x 1
140kg (308lbs) x 10 x 1
180kg (396lbs) x 10 x 2 *Lifetime best*
Drop set

Lat pull down (pretty strict)
120kg x 10 x 3
Drop set

Hammer Strength upper back
light weight - 100kg x exhaustion x 3

I got home and was still consumed with energy. Took me almost 2 hours to calm down.

Lovin' it.

[Titleist]

Sure thing bro.

Congrats on the lifetime best, I'm sure you're feeling like Superman right now. Fuck bro, nearly 400lbs for 10 reps!

That's some serious weight.

I got home and was still consumed with energy. Took me almost 2 hours to calm down.

That's a great feeling.

Keep it up.

[lightwaytbaby]

great thread!

[plzr8]

no better feel than setting new personal records....keep it up!

[Sage]

Man, that is a very fine thread. I would not have made my way here if not getting ready to run some mad HGH after my AAS endeavors.
Great overall physical progress as well bro.

[ironaddict69]

damn thunderin you are one strong mofo! Im doin real well for my young age but io can only HOPE ill be doing what u do someday. how many cycles have u done man?

[thunderin]

damn thunderin you are one strong mofo! Im doin real well for my young age but io can only HOPE ill be doing what u do someday. how many cycles have u done man?

Thanks. I honestly have no idea how many cycles I have run. First cycle at 16 (way the hell too young, and that was 26 years ago.

[thunderin]

Just switched over to all short esters.

*Note - my goal is a completely painless inject suitable for ed shots, not a high mg/mL content

Just made the following:

Test prop 200mg/mL @ 50mL
2% BA
25% BB
10g test prop
rest 100% EO

NPP 200mg/mL @ 40mL
2% BA
25% BB
8g NPP
rest 100% EO

Tren ace 200mg/mL @ 40mL
2% BA
25% BB
8g tren ace
rest 100% EO

.22 micron 30mm diameter sterile syringe filters used with filters replaced every 20mL. Why? EO can degrade PVDF filters, and thus, diminish sterility.

Why use EO? The solutions have a very low viscosity and should be painless compared to traditional oils like grape seed. I could easily inject this with a slin pin.

The solutions are amazingly clear as well. See photos below.

First inject:
300mg test prop 1.5mL
100mg tren ace 0.5mL (cough, cough)
100mg NPP 0.5mL

The solution went like as if it were water.
T+2 hours no pain
Will keep my fingers crossed

Cheap rubber stopper on the NPP. Got 2 small pieces broken off inside. WTH

[plzr8]

beyond jealous!!

[thunderin]

T+26
Still painless. Took the same amount again today.

Will try my eq prop tomorrow.

Feeling great.

[plzr8]

Will try my eq prop tomorrow.

uh oh, good luck!

[thunderin]

Since quad shots are my favorites, I had to dilute to 80mg/mL with sterile oil. Yesterday was my first quad injects.

200mg test prop
100mg tren ace
100mg npp
total: 2mL AAS @ 200mg/mL + 3mL sterile oil = 5mL total, 2.5mL in each quad.

*I am a real wimp for post-injection pain. This is absolutely painless, goes in so easy and is very suitable for ed use.

[thunderin]

Leg day: I have taken to training my legs every 3rd workout in order to bring them up to the level of my upper body.

Example:
Day 1 chest
Day 2 back
Day 3 legs
Day 4 arms
Day 5 shoulders
Day 6 legs
Day 7 & 8 rest

Tonight was one of the best leg workouts I can remember.

Professional 2-tier (2 different levels to hold more plates) leg press. Each set followed by calf presses on the same machine. New gym has only lbs on the weights, no more kg. Must be imports.

225lbs x 15
405lbs x 12
585lbs x 10
765lbs x 10
945lbs x 10
1125lbs x 10
1125lbs x 10 Drop set from hell
945lbs x 10 Drop set from hell
765lbs x 10 Drop set from hell
585lbs x 10 Drop set from hell
405lbs x 12 Drop set from hell
Crawl away and almost vomit

Drop set from hell means no rest between sets all to complete exhaustion.

Leg extensions
Leg curls
Calf raises

My PWO therapy: 1 bucket of KFC extra crispy chicken with 3 pieces of corn and 3 mashed potatoes, shower and sleep.

[flash31]

Thunderin, you mentioned shooting your brew with a slin pin. What size slin pin do you use? Are you having trouble with shooting NPP and tren with slin pins??

[thunderin]

Just a short note to sat thanks for the time here on this board and to all the members who have made my stay here a good one.

Good luck, be smart and thanks.

[plzr8]

Just a short note to sat thanks for the time here on this board and to all the members who have made my stay here a good one.

Good luck, be smart and thanks.

sad to see you go bro...many of us have enjoyed your detailed log & input

hope everything is OK...all the best

-plzr8

[Titleist]

sad to see you go bro...many of us have enjoyed your detailed log & input

hope everything is OK...all the best

-plzr8

I agree 100%.

This is the best log I have ever read, bar none.

Much respect brotha.

-Titleist

[finny]

Great log, sorry to see you go - hope everything is ok...

Hmmm, all the pics are gone. I was going to look over some pics today, but noticed that they're all gone...

[thunderin]

I'm back online. Though I may not write as much, I'll still be around.

[Titleist]

I'm back online. Though I may not write as much, I'll still be around.

Hell yeah! Please post as much as you can. Your log was by far the most informative I ever followed.

Good to see you back.

[thunderin]

This month of hiatus that I took caused me to do some sincere self-examination of my lifestyle, diet, training techniques and AAS/GH use.

The result:

My AAS/GH dosage and schedule were all in line, but my diet and training techniques were not.

Training:

My strength is extremely high which can easily lead to a serious and/or debilitating injury. I had been doing the same lifts for more than 10 years, and I had plateaued.

Solution:

I have heard the gone but not forgotten voice of Vince Gironda. "You're a bodybuilder not a weightlifter."

I have reduced the weight of all my movements by 50% more or less, and I do each and every rep extremely slow, concentrating on complete muscle contraction. Each set to failure and only 20 seconds rest between each set.

Diet:

Again from Vince, "It's not how much you each but what your body can digest."

I need 6000-7500 calories and 300-400 grams of protein per day.

Solution:

Novalog ultra-fast acting insulin (subq onset 10 min - peak 90 min - duration 4 hours) 3 x per day x 15 iu = 45 iu ed, 4 weeks on/3 weeks off. (See the attachment of my new disposable Novalog insulin pen, so convenient and useful)

36 medium eggs ed (protein: 216g, fat: 170g, calories 2520)
1L whole milk ed (protein: 32g, fat: 32g, calories 586)
2 cans condensed sweetened milk ed (protein: 62g, fat: 66g, calories 2640)

I forgot to mention my other food also:
2L of 5% grape juice drink (protein: 0g, fat: 0g, calories 500)
0.5kg of lean beef (protein: 105g, fat: 25g, calories 685)
1 large bowl of rice (protein: 9g, fat: 1g, calories 484)

Total nutrition
protein: 424g
fat: 294g
calories: 7415

AAS/GH cycle:

300mg test prop ed (2100mg ew)
80mg tren ace ed (560mg ew)
80mg NPP ed (560mg ew)
GH 10iu ed

Result:



My weight and the size and quality of my muscles are exploding like I never thought possible.

Weight 105kg (231lbs)

[thunderin]

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