i have always been in the same boat as far as gaining weight goes...i can probably out eat most people on this board and is very hard to gain any wait at all...i swear at the same time im chewing my food my body is buring it off at the same time.,..really was the main reason why i wanted to start a cycle...but one good thing about it is i do not have to watch what i eat as much as other people do...that and it is easy for me to lose any unwanted weight...
Well actually, that's a matter of perspective. I don't mind being a hard gainer at all. I know that I'll never have to cut weight, which is an issue most are faced with. Moreover, I have no interest in weighing more then 205 pounds. Also, I wouldn't call my genetics "terrible" if I was able to remain under 9% BF for my entire cycle, while bulking and putting on quality muscle / muscle tone.
exactly. when cycling, so many people get caught up because they bulk up, and then it takes them up to 5 months to drop their bodyfat back to optimal ranges. I can guarantee that within 6 weeks of ending this test cycle, I will have all my abs clearly visible again.
I'd even be willing to keep this thread updated, post cycle, to show my natural cut afterward.
Ok.. so this is probably the most important post in this forum:
DO NOT INJECT INTO YOUR CALVES.
I was trying to be a hero this morning.. and wanted to see if I could take the pain.. well.. I can barely walk right now. lol. All first timers: AVOID CALF INJECTIONS... unless you have a serious pain threshold!! haha.
It was actually terrible. lol.. my leg is still messed up.. I was trying to do biceps / back workout this morning, and my right leg was like.. numb and throbbing the whole time!
I've been injecting into the glutes a lot. I tried the delts as well (but the first time I did I hit a vein) haven't tried pecs, or biceps..
I actually did update on sides about a week ago, you must have missed it. I never got any gyno symptoms whatsoever. I never had to run an AI. umm other then that... roid raged a bit in the first 4 weeks, but that passed. Acne .. got a little bit at the beginning of cycle.. but now nothing really.. just 1 or 2 zits on my back / shoulder. No bloat either from the enan, which I was happy about.
Did you get what you expected out of the cycle.
I don't think your were eating anywhere near 4500 calories.... That would probably be too much for you in the first place. The pics from week 3 and now show minimum to no improvement really at all, especially on gear and at 4500 calories. I don't care who you are or how "great" or "fast" you believe your metabolism is, you would gain......
Sorry just stating the truth. I have seen your post telling people in the same boat as you to bulk up more before gear. Maybe take the suggestion yourself and do it before going on another cycle at the age of 21.....
I thought the same for a little while myself with the outstanding metabolism and all, I was skinny like you when i started to workout and train, it took years of doing it everyday to even get up to 200 before I cycled. Just finished my second cycle.......
What are the legs like.
Time to head down to the diet section and do more research there instead of AAS. No pointing in wasting money on drugs when you gotta fix the real mass gainer first.
Training and nutrition,
squats, red meat, potatos, deadlifts, all that good stuff....
come on guys i think its pretty obvious he has some seriousmass, stop picking on the big guy
wow man this seems a lil harsh..the point of this log is not to pick apart how big he is or is not...the point is to inform people on his cycle experience and i dont feel that this harsh flaming is necessary...this log is a great read for anyone considering a test e cycle and serious had put alot of time into his log and has been very detailed...now if you feel his gains are somewhat minor to what they should be then there are many other ways to address that then to make the guy feel like a piece of shit..i mean unless i forgot about how all you guys flaming him obv came out of your mothers womb ****in huge and jacked on juice..wait no you didnt...it took alot of time and dedication to get where you are today,...not to mention al the trial and error that came along with it...i hope that in the future all you guys could be a little more understanding and not try to discourage people on this board but instead maybe give them some advice to lead them in the right direction...
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