Most Common Beginners Cycles - Look here..

[bchabs6]

Just a couple questions, based more off experience of friends etc.

Almost everyone I know has never taken hCG while on cycle, is the real benefit from hCG just the TA and to ease into pct?

Also for pct, I've seen people on the forums, and IRL say that just taking Nolva is fine for pct. Clomid is used to jump the natural test levels back up, correct?

And lastly, I see a lot of cycles that have AI incorporated, but also a lot that say just having it on hand is fine. Is it fine to go without as long as you have it on hand and ready to go?

[MickeyKnox]

The links at the bottom of the first page address every one of your questions bro.

[mootyroonks]

sorry mickey, youre right, it is nolva. So then if Im mid cycle and getting gyno even though i am taking 0.5 eod arimidex with the hcg, then should I drop the arimidex and switch AI's or up the dose? my concern then at that point is ODing on Adex.

[MickeyKnox]

No, don't switch up AI's.

If youre starting your AI (Adex) at .5mg EOD because you THINK you may develop gyno, don't. Begin your AI protocol as suggested in the thread at .25mg. Then if you begin to see early symptoms of gyno, you can titrate your AI up to .5 EOD and then ED depending on your symptoms. You can also add 10mg Nolva ED for a period of time to combat and block the estrogen receptors in the breast tissue.

If I were as nervous about gyno as you are, i would purchase some Raloxifene for AR-R.com to have on hand as this SERM has 10x the binding affinity of Nolva.

[mootyroonks]

That would definitely be the plan. 0.25eod to start. Im more or less ensuring i have everything on hand and a plan of action in case i have issues. so the ralo on hand for gyno symptoms then?

[MickeyKnox]

Dont get me wrong, Nolva will do the trick and has been at the forefront of Gyno issues for many years. But Raloxifene has proven to be a better choice for Gyno related issues.

This is NOT based upon personal experience. I have never, and will never, have Gyno because i control my E2 at all times.

[mootyroonks]

Seems like you monitor your blood quite frequently, obviously a good idea to help keep things under control. I plan on doing that, prob a better way to handle it than stocking up on stuff you wont need. it is good to know what else is out there though.

[kronik420]

bump for the guy that wants to do a deca + winny cycle.....

[beasting]

bump for the guy that wants to do a deca + winny cycle.....

thanks bro, no way I want to do that cycle though just wanted it vetted..

[kronik420]

thanks bro, no way I want to do that cycle though just wanted it vetted..

lol yea, just pick one of these cycles on the 1st page, but research every compound in that cycle, so you will want to read up on testosterone, AI's, HCG, clomid, nolva, ect...

you should know what it is you are putting into your body before you start sticking your self with needles and swallowing tabs...

[beasting]

lol yea, just pick one of these cycles on the 1st page, but research every compound in that cycle, so you will want to read up on testosterone, AI's, HCG, clomid, nolva, ect...

you should know what it is you are putting into your body before you start sticking your self with needles and swallowing tabs...

thanks again for your help mate, i really do appreciate it

[kronik420]

thanks again for your help mate, i really do appreciate it

anytime

[MickeyKnox]

Ttt

[felix70]

am really a beginner and i need serious help about this i hate injections and please who can help me out on what to take? i really need this please

[kronik420]

am really a beginner and i need serious help about this i hate injections and please who can help me out on what to take? i really need this please

1kg of chicken breast, and 1kg of sweet potatoes, 5-6 times daily.

[MickeyKnox]

1kg of chicken breast, and 1kg of sweet potatoes, 5-6 times daily.

And plenty of exercise.

[Lunk1]

[Lunk1]

It's the begining of a new AR workweek BUMP

[cgozz]

Just got gear today. Going to start long ester cycle with oral and Deca. Already posted cycle, new to to this a little nervous about injecting. Also Deca is taken once a week at 300 mg can I take Test E and Deca on same day or together. I have read can put in same rig or is this wrong some help please.

[MickeyKnox]

Just got gear today. Going to start long ester cycle with oral and Deca. Already posted cycle, new to to this a little nervous about injecting. Also Deca is taken once a week at 300 mg can I take Test E and Deca on same day or together. I have read can put in same rig or is this wrong some help please.

I hope this isn't your first cycle. If so, you need to seriously reevaluate what your doing. Test ONLY first cycle bro.

[HeadAndArm]

Awesome this is just the post I've been looking for.

[cgozz]

Posted cycle already u looked it over and critiqued it. Said g2g

[MickeyKnox]

Posted cycle already u looked it over and critiqued it. Said g2g

You must of missed the part where i said if this is your first cycle do not add Deca.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...33#post6292033

[cgozz]

I already pined last night Deca and test e. kalpa products.

[MickeyKnox]

I already pined last night Deca and test e. kalpa products.

So you ignored my advice, which is shared by every responsible member here. My last piece of advice is discontinue the Deca. Dbol, Deca, and Test, is NOT a first cycle.

[cgozz]

Got you my bad if I misunderstood. Once again thanks.

[MickeyKnox]

Youre welcome.

[cgozz]

When injecting every 3.5 days, does that mean on a tue and fri or wed and sat or is it another way need some clarification.

[Gaspaco]

When injecting every 3.5 days, does that mean on a tue and fri or wed and sat or is it another way need some clarification.

Doesn't matter the days but am pm.

Monday am and thursday pm is 3.5day!
Tuesday am and friday pm is a 3.5day!

[GeriatricOne]

Thank you MickyKnox. glad I ventured out of the HRT/TRT forum tonight. Your post is what I've been looking for. Thanks for including the note about PCT for us on HRT/TRT. I think this should be a sticky note. Kudos!

[cgozz]

Thanks for the info. Appreciate it.

[cgozz]

Just like to thank Mickey Knox, been real helpful. First day I pined, had some PIP. Pined Deca and Test-e. upon advice from Mickey dropped Deca. Pined second time this morning very little pip.Test-E real smooth feeling pretty good. Thanks for all the advice.

[MickeyKnox]

Youre welcome. Sounds like you have everything under control.

[GeriatricOne]

Any thoughts on supplements (if any) while on these cycles?

[MickeyKnox]

Any thoughts on supplements (if any) while on these cycles?

Creatine works well with AAS. Casein protein for nighttime.

[OdinsOtherSon]

Bump. Keeping this where it belongs.

[OdinsOtherSon]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[ma_fighter]

Bump!

and

Sticky this alredy!

[MickeyKnox]

Up for the wave of new guys that apparently NEED to read this asap!

[MickeyKnox]

Up for the wave of new guys that apparently NEED to read this asap!

Again!