HGH log for everyone!

[BJJ]

Thanks BJJ

I doubt that is has anything to do with the hGH, what do you think?

If you say so I grant your statement XL.
Now that I have seen the other thread you started I got a bit worry and perhaps giving importance to things which are not.

[Xtralarg]

If you say so I grant your statement XL.
Now that I have seen the other thread you started I got a bit worry and perhaps giving importance to things which are not.

You have your blood test results which tell you that your hGH levels are elivated so you dont have to worry!!

How is the CT today?

[BJJ]

You have your blood test results which tell you that your hGH levels are elivated so you dont have to worry!!

How is the CT today?

Still bad like yesterday and noticed also my ankles are full of water, I can easily touch it.

[Xtralarg]

Going to back to the subject of sleep whilst using hGH. All I have to report is that I have never slept as well in all my life, I can sleep all night and twice during the day without fail.

Anyone else feel the same?

[Matt]

Ive started week three, weeks 1/2 were 2ius 5on 2 off. Today and on wards will be 4ius..

Ive noticed my sleeping on injection days is very good and i felt slight numbness in the tips of my fingers.. Ive also noticed my weight is going up daily and presume this is now bloat even at such a low dose, i also feel alittle bloated..

Ive decided to run the 4ius 7 days a week now for at least two months.. Im using Glotropin...

[Xtralarg]

Ive started week three, weeks 1/2 were 2ius 5on 2 off. Today and on wards will be 4ius..

Ive noticed my sleeping on injection days is very good and i felt slight numbness in the tips of my fingers.. Ive also noticed my weight is going up daily and presume this is now bloat even at such a low dose, i also feel alittle bloated..

Ive decided to run the 4ius 7 days a week now for at least two months.. Im using Glotropin...

Any update on getting it tested by a lab?

[Matt]

Any update on getting it tested by a lab?

No mate, im going to see how NS gets on and take it from there, i will however be getting my bloodworks done to see if that gives me an idea..

[Xtralarg]

No mate, im going to see how NS gets on and take it from there, i will however be getting my bloodworks done to see if that gives me an idea..

Well if your results are anything like BJJ's then you should be happy!

[BJJ]

By the way, this morning I sent my wife to get her blood work prior commencing the HGH cycle.

Tonight around 23:30 I will "hit her" for the first time with 1iu along with 50 mg of T4.
Are those proper dosages?

[Xtralarg]

By the way, this morning I sent my wife to get her blood work prior commencing the HGH cycle.

Tonight around 23:30 I will "hit her" for the first time with 1iu along with 50 mg of T4.
Are those proper dosages?

Sounds good to me.

It will be interesting to find out how she reacts. Will you be working her up to 2iu's eventually?

[BJJ]

Sounds good to me.

It will be interesting to find out how she reacts. Will you be working her up to 2iu's eventually?

Yes after 2 weeks I was thinking and do not exclude to go higher than that.

In any case, she will follow my blood work protocol so in 7 days we will have other data to compare with mine.

[SlimmerMe]

For BJJ re: wife dosage: I started at 1 and got a HUGE headache---and TIRED so I cut back to .5 for a couple weeks----then back up to 1 for a few weeks-- and BLOATED for awhile----then 1.5 for a few weeks----now I am at 2--and all is okay----so----if she gets sleepy then obviously cut back---then move forward--( I take Armour ED )

[BJJ]

For BJJ re: wife dosage: I started at 1 and got a HUGE headache---and TIRED so I cut back to .5 for a couple weeks----then back up to 1 for a few weeks-----then 1.5 for a few weeks----now I am at 2--and all is okay----so----if she gets sleepy then obviously cut back---then move forward---I also do Armour---

Thanks for your suggestion, I will keep it in mind.

Also, when do you inject? morning or evening? how much T4 are you using?

[SlimmerMe]

I inject usually early morning----about 4- 5am then go back to sleep for a couple hours---DEEP sleep and VIVID dreams----but sometimes before bed depending on circumstances----and Armour has both t-3 and t-4--I take everyday----

[BJJ]

I inject usually early morning----about 5am then go back to sleep---DEEP sleep----but sometimes before bed depending on circumstances----and Armour has both t-3 and t-4--I take everyday----

Ok thanks.

Please share your experience with us here, there are not many girls around...

[Xtralarg]

I inject usually early morning----about 4- 5am then go back to sleep for a couple hours---DEEP sleep and VIVID dreams----but sometimes before bed depending on circumstances----and Armour has both t-3 and t-4--I take everyday----

Ok thanks.

Please share your experience with us here, there are not many girls around...

Yes please share your experiences.

One question I have for SlimmerMe is how long did the bloat take to go away?

[BJJ]

by the way, I have 2 pugs so I can only love your puppy...

[SlimmerMe]

thanks BJJ! a lot of people thought she was a pug---I am on my 3rd Boston who looks more like a Boxer---I have been looking all over the place for my log notes so when I find them to share I will be more specific

[Hazard]

thanks BJJ! a lot of people thought she was a pug---I am on my 3rd Boston who looks more like a Boxer---I have been looking all over the place for my log notes so when I find them to share I will be more specific

Please do! My mother just started Testosterone gel and armour thyroid..... she doesn't want to use HGH again because of the bloating......

~Haz~

[SlimmerMe]

BLOAT??? still here----living with it---not as bad---but around

[Xtralarg]

forgot: the BLOAT??? still here----living with it---not as bad---but around

How long have you been on the gh?

Doeshe bloat subside then come back when you increase the dose or does it never go away?

Are you taking any aas?

Have you seen a drop in BF%?

Any lean muscle gains?

Sorry for all the questions

[SlimmerMe]

started this past April---so about 3 months now--I am only doing HRT compounded:
estriol-estradiol--progesterone--test--dhea---all mixed into one every single day--and Armour ED---
I think I am leaner---but more weight on the scale which BUGS ME
the Bloat?--I have a hard time telling now---I am so used to it--my stomach seems to stick out more--and my stomach has always been the best part of me----I just started injecting in my thigh to see if that helped---PLEASE----ASK---I LOVE THIS FORUM!

[marcus300]

started this past April---so about 3 months now--I am only doing HRT compounded:
estriol-estradiol--progesterone--test--dhea---all mixed into one every single day--and Armour ED---
I think I am leaner---but more weight on the scale which BUGS ME
the Bloat?--I have a hard time telling now---I am so used to it--my stomach seems to stick out more--and my stomach has always been the best part of me----I just started injecting in my thigh to see if that helped---PLEASE----ASK---I LOVE THIS FORUM!

You shouldnt be bloated all over your body after 3 months at 1iu and 2ius, which gh is it?

[Xtralarg]

You shouldnt be bloated all over your body after 3 months at 1iu and 2ius, which gh is it?

Agreed, this worries me slighlty.

[BJJ]

Do you inject IM or sub-q? GH speaking

[SlimmerMe]

Sub-q

[BJJ]

Do you guys know if Glutathione may interfere with Somatropin?

I started yesterday my GSH protocol which consits in 600 mg ed for the following 2 weeks, IM injections.

Of course, I inject hours away from HGH and I know the half life of Glutathione is about minutes, not even hours.

So, there should be no problem but was wondering if some of you knows anything deeper than that and/or have a personal experience with GSH.

[Xtralarg]

Sorry I cant help you out with that one.

[SlimmerMe]

Omnitrope

[Xtralarg]

Omnitrope

Pen or powder?

[BJJ]

^
I tried to PM you but...

[SlimmerMe]

comes in a vial----already mixed up---from the pharmacy via my doc---BJJ: I will check my pm---

[Vitruvian-Man]

comes in a vial----already mixed up---from the pharmacy via my doc---BJJ: I will check my pm---

Those are fine. 100% legit, and very, very expensive pharma-grade.

-VM

[BJJ]

comes in a vial----already mixed up---from the pharmacy via my doc---BJJ: I will check my pm---

If you want to receive and send PMs you need to go to your control panel and edit your options.

Simply, I cannot access to the function.

[marcus300]

comes in a vial----already mixed up---from the pharmacy via my doc---BJJ: I will check my pm---

They look very nice

[NotSmall]

I'm not trying to be a smartass but one of the mainstays of the "Chinese stuff is fake" argument has been the prolonged water retention and now it seems that is also possible on pharma stuff - I am increasingly starting to think we may have all got a bit carried away.

[Xtralarg]

I'm not trying to be a smartass but one of the mainstays of the "Chinese stuff is fake" argument has been the prolonged water retention and now it seems that is also possible on pharma stuff - I am increasingly starting to think we may have all got a bit carried away.

This crossed my mind but we have to remember that slimmerme is a female who is also on HRT which could well complicate issues surrounding water retention IMO.

[Fantomg]

I'm not trying to be a smartass but one of the mainstays of the "Chinese stuff is fake" argument has been the prolonged water retention and now it seems that is also possible on pharma stuff - I am increasingly starting to think we may have all got a bit carried away.

I knew that was coming, as you beat me to it. If this helps with my experience or just throws more curve balls, it was:

Bloat (around 6-7lbs) in the beginning. Face was fat etc.
Gone after about 30 days or at least mostly gone
Then nothing - nothing until 2 1/2 months (almost quit)
2 1/2 months till now appx 5 1/2mths - 258 down to 225! Actually started a little gain inside the last several weeks now at 230ish.



(I also feel great with lots of mental energy every single day. I did the megarexic "shit I'm getting small" thing when the weight loss started. But had so many at the gym tell me how much better (tighter and hard) I was getting) I haven't done any pre-contest dieting since those days so I wasn't used to dropping like that, especially when you're hovering around 260 at 5'11" for a long time) (Also, I have sides, very prevalent ones that include my arms turning into dead logs completely asleep for extended periods even after waking, and.... what I think is CTS - a lot of pain in my right hand knuckles to the point where I have to force my hand open and closed slowly due to pain for about 5-7 minutes each morning till it subsides).

Regarding bloat AFTER IT GOES AWAY AND YOU INCREASE YOUR DOSE AGAIN: I don't know - But was considering an increase if I think I can handle the increased sides that may come. I don't know what to expect. Why should I do more than 4iu/day m-f if I've gotten really lean and hard and feel great?! What is 5 or 6 going to do differently? It seems to me that you've got to get up near 10iu/day to create hyperplasia or more size. I'm really getting out of my realm of experience/knowledge at that dose other than having a couple of IFBB friends that.. well they just are walking pharmacies anyways. I get more out of this site than from them. If they had their way, I'd be taking grams again of AAS.

I think even though this is an individual thing for hgh...That the bloat goes AWAY before 3 months no matter who you are if you've got HGH.

[Fantomg]

PS: After typing behind the scenes shortly with Marcus300 I felt compelled to take the old avatar down. That was myself in the 90's at my best, fairly dry at 225appx 4 weeks out from a big one. I struggle with letting too much ID'ing info out due to the obvious.

I am in my early 40's now and have a completely different mindset/goals aside from not being anywhere near that conditioning anymore. It was hard letting go of the egotistical part of BBing and become more sensible. I am lucky to have my health and great blood work results after what I did in those days, but there's still some ego that keeps me testing if I can throw up 405 for a double or triple every so often. I have my spotter lie to me about not helping. I'm happy to say that I've gone from about 260 to 230lbs (5'11" but I will lie and say 6) and having to wear a belt with 34" jeans from using and still measure 19 1/2 cold with the guns.
Not trying to hi-jack the thread, this is somewhat about HGH - Yellow Tops from China - and I believe I've got the real deal with maybe, just maybe something added or not quite as pure as Saizen, Genetropin, pens, etc.

Thanks Marcus300 - If that's a recent pic (your Avatar) ya look like ya throw 405lbs (183 Kilos) around for lunch even on a bad day under the bench press. I've got family all over U.K. and my cousin owns a commercial/residential glass company in London. It's been a few years but I need to visit them again. I will have to look you up if I get across the pond soon and hit a work out or two. I'd definitely need a spot from you if we're putting more than 183kilos (405) on the bar for reps. I hit mostly all incline movements now anyways and rarely use more than 365 for 6-8 so you'd have to go easy that day.

Hang on - "Notsmall" - you're there too? That's right... I think we're all about the same age and if you're abs get anymore deep you'd lose an american quarter between them. The gym I'm at currently is infested with softies (no offense to anyone) who think you're crazy if you've put 3 plates on each side or more and might lodge a complaint that you're scaring them, lol. Thought they were going to kick me out for not wearing matching colors. You anywhere near London or Manchester? God I'd like to be there now with this weather here topping 115 fahrenheit during the day and only down to 92 for the low.

[NotSmall]

PS: After typing behind the scenes shortly with Marcus300 I felt compelled to take the old avatar down. That was myself in the 90's at my best, fairly dry at 225appx 4 weeks out from a big one. I struggle with letting too much ID'ing info out due to the obvious.

I am in my early 40's now and have a completely different mindset/goals aside from not being anywhere near that conditioning anymore. It was hard letting go of the egotistical part of BBing and become more sensible. I am lucky to have my health and great blood work results after what I did in those days, but there's still some ego that keeps me testing if I can throw up 405 for a double or triple every so often. I have my spotter lie to me about not helping. I'm happy to say that I've gone from about 260 to 230lbs (5'11" but I will lie and say 6) and having to wear a belt with 34" jeans from using and still measure 19 1/2 cold with the guns.
Not trying to hi-jack the thread, this is somewhat about HGH - Yellow Tops from China - and I believe I've got the real deal with maybe, just maybe something added or not quite as pure as Saizen, Genetropin, pens, etc.

Thanks Marcus300 - If that's a recent pic (your Avatar) ya look like ya throw 405lbs (183 Kilos) around for lunch even on a bad day under the bench press. I've got family all over U.K. and my cousin owns a commercial/residential glass company in London. It's been a few years but I need to visit them again. I will have to look you up if I get across the pond soon and hit a work out or two. I'd definitely need a spot from you if we're putting more than 183kilos (405) on the bar for reps. I hit mostly all incline movements now anyways and rarely use more than 365 for 6-8 so you'd have to go easy that day.

Hang on - "Notsmall" - you're there too? That's right... I think we're all about the same age and if you're abs get anymore deep you'd lose an american quarter between them. The gym I'm at currently is infested with softies (no offense to anyone) who think you're crazy if you've put 3 plates on each side or more and might lodge a complaint that you're scaring them, lol. Thought they were going to kick me out for not wearing matching colors. You anywhere near London or Manchester? God I'd like to be there now with this weather here topping 115 fahrenheit during the day and only down to 92 for the low.

Thanks for the props mate - those abs took a LONG time to dig out - I used to be one FAT mama jamma! lol There's a thread in the members pics somewhere from 2004 that'll give you some idea, although I had already lost the vast majority of lard before the before pics!
I'm a little bit younger than you old war dogs, lol, I'm only 32 - good job I'm not a woman or you'd be BANG in trouble!
I live way down in the south west of england in cornwall.