M1t FAQ

**SwollSooner315** · 07-01-2005, 01:29 AM

ok i feel 100% and im still getting gains....im thinking about extending my cycle to 5 weeks....im at the end of week 4 right now....do you guys think this would be benefical at all? and i was thinking of taking 6-oxo (i have 2 bottles i got for cheap)for the last week of this cycle and starting novla/clomid at the end. any thoughts?

**nsa** · 07-01-2005, 08:53 AM

I wouldn't extend it, but i top out around the beginning of the fourth week of m1t.

**SwollSooner315** · 07-01-2005, 09:26 AM

sooo do you think it would be alright if im still gaining?

**nsa** · 07-01-2005, 01:49 PM

It could be beneficial. I dunno if it will be for sure though.

**birsling** · 07-01-2005, 02:32 PM

I would think that you need to start to think about your liver when going longer with orals. Your call bro, especially if you are still growing at a good rate

**Natural1** · 07-04-2005, 02:04 PM

What are the effects of running m1t by itself, with pct ect but just excluding the 4-derm. I am not trying to run this i am just curious to the effects of it besides being insanely lethargic.

**Darkness** · 07-04-2005, 02:53 PM

No effects at all, I ran M1T by it self last month, got close to 10lbs gain and because this is my 3rd M1T cycle I wasnt lethargic at all, which I could've done it with 4-ad because the gains are much easier to keep that way.

**Natural1** · 07-04-2005, 03:12 PM

you say the gains are easier to keep with the 4ad or without? So if Im understanding right the 4ad is really only for lethargy? Also if im correct the m1t doesnt aromatize so in terms of gyno its safer to do without right?

**Darkness** · 07-04-2005, 04:42 PM

Yeah with 4ad you'll get better gains and is easier to keep.

**Natural1** · 07-04-2005, 04:52 PM

i understand better gains but why are they easier to keep?

**ScreaM** · 07-04-2005, 06:16 PM

how easy is it to still get this? Im looking on the web, and it looks like all of its discontinued, and help? This looks real good, plz pm me with any info

Thanks

**Natural1** · 07-04-2005, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by ScreaM

how easy is it to still get this? Im looking on the web, and it looks like all of its discontinued, and help? This looks real good, plz pm me with any info

Thanks

You can no longer get it via internet, well not legally, it has been banned and is now considered illegal, just as steroids are.

**Darkness** · 07-04-2005, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Natural1

i understand better gains but why are they easier to keep?

Dude, the answers are all in this same thread.

**ScreaM** · 07-04-2005, 10:32 PM

so is this still worth persueing? Im not asking for any links or suppliers, but can someone help me here, manybe with a hint? lol

**Natural1** · 07-05-2005, 11:07 AM

You can pursue all you want nobody is stopping you from that but just keep in mind that it is illegal now, and is no longer on any supplement sites.

**nsa** · 07-05-2005, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by ScreaM

so is this still worth persueing? Im not asking for any links or suppliers, but can someone help me here, manybe with a hint? lol

Get injectable testosterone . 4-ad is not in production anymore, no reason to make a product that is inferior to test when they are both illegal.

**ScreaM** · 07-05-2005, 02:43 PM

Thats a good point, thanks. test c or p, what do you think?

**nsa** · 07-05-2005, 02:53 PM

Depends. I prefer prop, but if its your first time go with something more newbie friendly like e or c...

**Natural1** · 07-05-2005, 06:45 PM

NSA i know its in here somewhere but cant seem to find exact answer, besides being lethargic, is excluding 4ad from cycle doing any harm.

**nsa** · 07-05-2005, 07:07 PM

Loss of libido and any other low testosterone level sides...

**ScreaM** · 07-05-2005, 08:33 PM

nsa, can you pm me with some info on test c and e, I know the basics, but like a beginning cycle, stacked with what? thanks

**nsa** · 07-05-2005, 08:44 PM

I don't have PM's enabled because when i do enable them i get flooded with PM's. Go to the main site, they have all the info you need on those compounds and they have cycles listed too. www.steroid.com

**ItalianFlex** · 07-07-2005, 03:38 PM

nsa long time no talk man....can i still get m1t anywhere??if so where? thanks man

**frankrom** · 07-08-2005, 05:55 PM

Thats all i can say... i've been researching for information like this for a week and i found it all in 1 spot! nsa your post is amazing i can't thank you enough for this great information...

However i am left with a few questions

I was told to take milk thistle AND Hawthorne Berry WHILE on the cycle... not as a PCT. What what do you think about that? and what were your reasons to take them as a PCT not during the 4 weeks ON?

and what liver protection supplement are you taking? i was recommend to Liv 52, i couldn't find any if your post.

Thanks again and i hope someone can answer this question even if its not nsa

Frank

**nsa** · 07-08-2005, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by frankrom

Thats all i can say... i've been researching for information like this for a week and i found it all in 1 spot! nsa your post is amazing i can't thank you enough for this great information...

However i am left with a few questions

I was told to take milk thistle AND Hawthorne Berry WHILE on the cycle... not as a PCT. What what do you think about that? and what were your reasons to take them as a PCT not during the 4 weeks ON?

and what liver protection supplement are you taking? i was recommend to Liv 52, i couldn't find any if your post.

Thanks again and i hope someone can answer this question even if its not nsa

Frank

Milk thistle and hawthorne berry are good on cycle. I always said to take hawthorne berry during the cycle and the only reason i didn't say to take milk thistle during the cycle is because at the time some studies showed that it might hinder gains, but i think its best to take both while on cycle. Milk thistle is the best liver protectant there is, it actually has been shown in studies to help regenerate hepatic cells in the liver...

**frankrom** · 07-08-2005, 07:38 PM

Hmm i'm not sure if i understood you 100%...

So are you saying take Milk thistle and hawthorne berry while you are ON THE CYCLE and as a pct? Thats what i understood from the message, i just want to clearify it with you...

Oh and if i should be taking Milk Thistle during the cycle how much?

And what about Clomid should that only be taking PCT?

Thanks nsa for your quick reponse

**nsa** · 07-08-2005, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by frankrom

Hmm i'm not sure if i understood you 100%...

So are you saying take Milk thistle and hawthorne berry while you are ON THE CYCLE and as a pct? Thats what i understood from the message, i just want to clearify it with you...

BOTH ON CYCLE AND ONLY MILK THISTLE DURING PCT

Oh and if i should be taking Milk Thistle during the cycle how much?

500 MG - 1000 GRAM ED

And what about Clomid should that only be taking PCT?

CLOMID IS ONLY USED DURING PCT

Thanks nsa for your quick reponse

Suggestions in caps and bold...

**frankrom** · 07-08-2005, 08:17 PM

So you think milk thisle is enough for the liver ? Someone told me to take liv 52 but i'll stick to what you said...

Thanks all my questions are answered... You should have posted your mailing address we would have randomly sent checks to your hosue for your help!

Now all i gotta do is find who can sell me some hawthorne berry, clomid, Nolvadex ! and i'm ready to start my cycle baby! oh yeah thanks...

p.s. i know someone said dont ask for address to websites that sell that stuff... but i have too, i had trouble finding any websites that will sell me... hawthorne berry, clomid, Nolvadex, i live in canada... anyone know any websits or whatever where i can get these 3, i'd greatly appericate it. (i hope me asking doesn't cause a problem none of these are illegal to my knowledage so...)

Thanks again nsa, cheers!

**Taurus** · 07-10-2005, 01:47 PM

some people suggest 20mg of nolv ed (up until end of pct), and you say nolv only during pct?

whats the difference? which one would be better for superdrol?

**nsa** · 07-10-2005, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Taurus

some people suggest 20mg of nolv ed (up until end of pct), and you say nolv only during pct?

whats the difference? which one would be better for superdrol?

You don't need nolvadex during the cycle, unless your using a ridiculous daily dose of 4-ad/test. You don't need nolvadex during a SD only cycle, because it doesn't convert to estrogen.

Please keep all superdrol questions out of this thread. This is all about M1T, not superdrol.

**icedudez** · 07-10-2005, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by nsa

You don't need nolvadex during the cycle, unless your using a ridiculous daily dose of 4-ad/test. You don't need nolvadex during a SD only cycle, because it doesn't convert to estrogen.

Please keep all superdrol questions out of this thread. This is all about M1T, not superdrol.

lol its turned into a bit of a free for all...

**Natural1** · 07-11-2005, 07:07 PM

What do you think about this, im on 8th day of m1t, should i wait until finished with it to start some test cyp or can i just basically use the m1t as a jumpstart?

**nsa** · 07-11-2005, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Natural1

What do you think about this, im on 8th day of m1t, should i wait until finished with it to start some test cyp or can i just basically use the m1t as a jumpstart?

You should start with the cypionate as soon as possible if you want to use m1t as a kickstarter. Your a little late, but can still make it work if you start the cypionate like tonight or tomorow.

**C_Bino** · 07-12-2005, 11:17 AM

Hey this was a great read. I started an M1t cycle after reading it and have been fairly happy with the results. Strength gains have not been huge but noticeable. I have been on for about 16 days so almost two weeks left and im up 10lbs in lbm. My abs have even started to show better than they were although I have noticed some bloating in my abdominal region.

**Natural1** · 07-12-2005, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by nsa

You should start with the cypionate as soon as possible if you want to use m1t as a kickstarter. Your a little late, but can still make it work if you start the cypionate like tonight or tomorow.

Yeah i know im a little late i really didnt plan on the cyp but things came up so i decided to get some do you think that if i started by this weekend i would be fine or just wait till im done with m1t and take cyp, i just really dont wanna have to pct twice when i can have it once, I am only taking a small dose 10mg/day and another question, should i still be taking the 4ad once the cyp is started or not? Really no reason for it right.

**nsa** · 07-12-2005, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Natural1

Yeah i know im a little late i really didnt plan on the cyp but things came up so i decided to get some do you think that if i started by this weekend i would be fine or just wait till im done with m1t and take cyp, i just really dont wanna have to pct twice when i can have it once, I am only taking a small dose 10mg/day and another question, should i still be taking the 4ad once the cyp is started or not? Really no reason for it right.

I said start the cyp as soon as possible. If you start the cyp at the end of the m1t cycle, your doing it all wrong. Cyp takes a few weeks (about 3) to kick in. So like i originally said, start it as soon as possible. BTW, do yourself a favor and learn everything you can about the compounds your using...

**Natural1** · 07-12-2005, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by nsa

I said start the cyp as soon as possible. If you start the cyp at the end of the m1t cycle, your doing it all wrong. Cyp takes a few weeks (about 3) to kick in. So like i originally said, start it as soon as possible. BTW, do yourself a favor and learn everything you can about the compounds your using...

Yeah I understood completely when you said take it asap, its just that i dont have the cyp yet (not until saturday), so i was wondering if that is too late to start by then, and if i should just complete my m1t cycle and pct and then just hold off on the cyp for a while until i am ready for my next cycle.

**nsa** · 07-12-2005, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Natural1

Yeah I understood completely when you said take it asap, its just that i dont have the cyp yet (not until saturday), so i was wondering if that is too late to start by then, and if i should just complete my m1t cycle and pct and then just hold off on the cyp for a while until i am ready for my next cycle.

Your call on that. But i would start it as soon as you get it, you might miss the perfect transition by a few days, but i wouldn't go right back into a cycle just after finishing pct from another cycle...

**Natural1** · 07-12-2005, 03:08 PM

Oh yeah i didnt mean it like that, i meant just finish it and hold off for a few months until i am ready for my next cycle.
-and as for the 4ad that would serve no purpose, if i tooke the cyp correct.

**ItalianFlex** · 07-14-2005, 02:47 PM

Is there somewhere I can still buy it?? Let me know the stuff is awesome...thanks

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