4-ad question

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Background. Im 25, training for 5+ years, and have done and M1-t cycle followed w/ clomid before.

I wasnt very happy w/ the sides w/ the m1t, but i do know that many recommend using 4-ad to combat the lethargy, not sure who has done a cycle themselves w/ and w/out to document the differences, but my question is what 4ad is prefered? I gather the transdermal is...what brand? Dermabolics? Is the powder really that much worse?

And what exactly is T-Gel?
, i know LN sells that new package w/ tgel, m1t, tamox, and 4ad(powder)..

Thank you.

[nsa]

4-ad transdermal is preferred, dermabolics 4-derm is fine. But if you realy want results and no lethargy at all, you could always go with test prop stacked with m1t.

[Fame]

test prop? inj? guess its an option, but i wasnt planning on going the inj. route just yet...if i was, i would prob drop the m1t, i've had several stacks recommended, just not sure if i want to go that route yet...

[nsa]

Ok, if you haven't done AAS yet, then you prop is not the best.

[Fame]

Ok, if you haven't done AAS yet, then you prop is not the best.

I know this is the wrong forum, but since its on topic (kinda), this was recommended by a long time friend/old training partner as what he recommends for me for a first time AAS cycle
"
50mg's D-bol weeks 1-4
300mg's Deca weeks 1-10
500mg's Sust weeks 3-13

Start taking the test 3 weeks after your first deca injection. Deca takes at least 3 weeks to enter your system and leave your system...it's all about timing, so by the time your done with the deca you still have 3 weeks left to take the test"

dont know if u can comment on that at all...

Best price i found for Derma 4derm was 19.99 is that the best i'll find if i decide to go that route?

[nsa]

The 4-ad is the best you'll find.

I don't like that cycle at all. Switch the sust for 500 mg/week of test e.

1-12 test e 500 mg/week
1-10 deca 300 mg/week
1-4 d-bol50 mg/week

Thats what i would run if i was you. But not for a first cycle. I would just run the test e for a first cycle, with d-bol for a kickstart.