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    Lozgod's M1T

    I just ordered some M1T powder and am going to make 10mg caps and do a 4 week cycle, I am debating on using 4Derm or Test with it. I am curious to see the effects of M1T. I have used 1-Test in the past with 4-Diol caps. I want to avoid the test because I want to see how the M1T works on its own, however I dont have too much confidence in the 4derm based on research. I dont want to get shut down.

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    I have heard that the 4derm works pretty good, when taking 400-600mg's daily

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    What kind of test are we talking here loz...

    Are you talking test prop, test enanthate or sublingual base?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    What kind of test are we talking here loz...

    Are you talking test prop, test enanthate or sublingual base?
    Good question, if I go with Enan. it wont have kicked in until I was done the cycle. Maybe I'll go with the 4 derm. The sublingual is a pain in the ass, I believe it works but the multi-dosing gets old.

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    Yeah, i was thinking you were going to use either prop or sublingual. 4-derm works pretty good if you take around 500-600 mg transdermally ED.

    What exactly are you expectations from this cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    Yeah, i was thinking you were going to use either prop or sublingual. 4-derm works pretty good if you take around 500-600 mg transdermally ED.

    What exactly are you expectations from this cycle?
    Well the 1-Test put on 16 solid pounds if I remember correctly, but I lost most of them because I did no PCT. I didnt think it was necassary, I wasnt as educated then as I am now.

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    Im betting you could put on 15 pounds easy, but final total will be somewhere in the 15-20 pound range.

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    deffanatly take some kind of test the lethargy sucks pretty bad with just m1t and the gains slow down after week 2 because your shutdown.

    even with pct i only used nolva and kicked up the cardio i gained 16 pounds from m1t but it turned out to only be around 6 pounds lean body mass and around 5 pounds water 5 pounds fat

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    You only used nolvadex for pct? No clomid?

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    no clomid the nolva only took longer i ran nolva all the way threw due to pre existing gyno and bumped up to 40 for 2 weeks then down to 20 for a week the balls came back in week 3 and i thought i was cool plus the acne started to kick up and i stopped about 4 days later i noticed itchy nipples and jumped on the nolva for another week and i was cool

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