4ad? and 4ad cypionate?

[bigbadbootydaddy]

what is the difference between 4ad and 4ad cypionate, both in powder form?
also 1 test and 1 test cypionate?
have read on other sites about ppl pinning the cyp versions, is this true? does it work better that taking it orally?

[Bryan2]

The cyp stands for cypionate it is an ester attached to slow the release.


4ad cyp and 1 test cyp are meant to be injected

Injecting is the best delivery that there is with oral you only absorb about 5%
With injecting you absorb around 99.9%

They do methylate substances for oral absorbtion which bumps absorbtion around 95% but is very bad for your liver and it changes the chem a little so sides and results are different then the non methylated counterpart

[bigbadbootydaddy]

so u would prepare it like any as with b.a. and b.b

[bigbadbootydaddy]

bump

[Bryan2]

yes you would 1 Test is pretty tricky to keep in a solution though so it will take some tweaking around with and most have bad pain assosiated with it if they go over 100mg/ml

4ad on the other hand is really easy and some even go up to 400mg/ml but i would stay around 300mg/ml myself up to you and how good at converting you are

[bigbadbootydaddy]

never done it before just reading up on converting as when i ran across a couple of site on doing it to prohormones or prosteroids whatever u wanna call them. is there any way of lessening the pain? are ur gains as good as if u were doing as? why is it hard to keep 1 test in a solution

[Bryan2]

If you take enough mg then yes they do rival as 1 test is a steroid 4ad needs to convert to test so its a pro-hormone for every 100mg of 4ad injected you get 15mg of testosterone. Im not sure why its hard to keep it in a solution but it just is You can lessen the pain by ading a slight more bb and mixing the 4ad or testosterone and the 1 test in the same syringe helps a lot sometimes even takes care of the pain

[bigbadbootydaddy]

hey b2 have u ever converted this stuff bfore? was it easy and worth the time and effort

[Bryan2]

Not personally but i was there when a buddy did it he had a hard time with the 1test and everyone ive talked to on the forums say the 1 test takes practice to get it over 100mg/ml

but the 4ad is cake
check out the lab threads or
go over to www.anabolicminds.com/forum and check there threads out