so, i love this stuff. i began taking clen last week, starting out at 40mcg and working my way up (currently at 140mcg). didn't notice much difference at the gym etc. so, last weekend i started taking some CEE thunder. went to do my chest workout today and WOW. i normally do 100lb dumbell press 10,8,6...struggling with the last set. today i started out and hit 12 easy. so, i bumped up to 105. did 4 sets of 8...tried a 5th set and got 5. i'm sure i could have done 110's but i didn't want to hurt myself (i had been having some cramping problems with the clen and dind't want to run into trouble iwht that much weight...taurine seems to have taken care of the problem though).
anyway, i'm not feeling bloated. i know creatine in itself works, but i was pleasantly surprised today (i don't remember such fast results from regular creatine). i didn't get any ridculous pumps (maybe b/c i'm mixing the clen and cee), but strenght was good and i did still get a good pump.
anyway, IMO a great PCT combo. also, a great alternative to those youngsters instead of AAS or PHs. my gym only has DB's up to 120, so i'm hoping to try to get a set of 8 by the end of my bottle of CEE (current stats are 6'0 204 lbs......i'm guessing 12-13% bodyfat...can see my abs..4 pack... and veins in my arms and one on my hip, but i'm not shredded or anything)