Are Andro products worthless?

[theron]

Anykind of Andro products whether it be Androdoil-4 or 5 sold in healthfood stores are told to be worthless is this true?

[Vegas Kid]

I've taken Nor-19 and Stenediol before and I think they made a difference. Nothing like what you would get from AAS though. I've never done a cycle yet so maybe that has a lot to do with it. I'm guessing if you've done a cycle, then the over the counter stuff is pretty much useless. However, I saw my strength increase and I also gained some muscle when I took Stenediol with Cell Tech. Nothing spectacular like I hear about here. This was 4 years ago so my body might have still been growing. Now I'm not taking anything and I'm still growing so go figure?

[Jenna]

I'm sure they can't compete with AS...BUT, I took over the counter Andro Stack for 3 days once... and it made me a MEAN bi*ch... Now, who knows... I could have been that way for other reason.... but, I noticed that the increased bottled up anger was great for my badass workouts.

I discontinued use because I was told it would be too harsh for me...

[payton0621]

the estrogen side effects are 2 great w/ andro

[EXCESS]

Andro sucks. I saw side effects but no results. IMO its a marketing scam.

[theron]

Most products that works are steroids but is illeagal.Not fair!

[D3m3nt3d]

I personally had great gains off AST's 19-nor 250@750mg a day..i ended up 26lbs bigger BUT it was also when i first started lifting...some people gain weight great when they first start so i cant contribute all of it to the nor andro

[Ironweb]

If you are looking for gains probaly not. When the Germanys first made andro it was for athletic performance. They produced it for their olympic athlete's to have a boost of test and it would quicly leave your body and they could pass a test very easily. It can help you in your workouts but I would doubt you would get great gains off of it.

[bigkev]

forget andros bro. why buy something that "may" convert to test in your body? just get the real thing. andro is taken orally, and is not 17aa, so, even if it was a steroid , it would not be and effective one because your liver would break it down. most andro stacks cost more than a bottle of t200.

[theron]

I would love to take a real steroid but there are too many scammers out there willing to take your money for nothing in return.I'm going to have to take Andro for now.

[BigBad]

Yup, andro may or may not convert in your system (hence, the testosterone precursor). But, there is a way to change all of this. If you take it with something that helps neutralize your stomach acids (i.e. unsweetened grapefruit juice or baking soda) AND something that boosts all of your hormones to help the andro make the conversion (i.e. ZINC), taking andro orally WILL work. Granted, AS will obviously work better but, if you don't want to take it to the next level, you can do fine w/it.
Also, -diols are more anabolic than -diones...keep that in mind.
If you can find a way to inject andro/norandro, your results would be tenfold! I injected a sterile prohormone solution twice a week for three weeks (couldn't do anymore cuz I hate needles and I had to do it myself) and put on 13 lbs! Not everyone's up for that but, it worked for me. Good luck bro. -BigBad

[sp9]

I agree here for the most part, but I just started an experiment with 1AD, supossidly your liver won't destroy it, but activate it (they say it uses the same method to bypass the liver as primo), much more gets into your blood. I am not claiming its worth the money but I can't use anything illegal because of my job so I want to see if I get even a little benefit out of it. Will post results in 6 weeks. Others have told me of good strength increases for it being over the counter and a few pounds of weight gain, nothing major. Now $39 a bottle, 60 caps each of 100mg, and I am running 6 a day, so for 6weeks I am gonna need to purchase 5 bottles. Pretty expensive. $200. I am praying for the day something worth while is made legal.

[theron]

any other comments?

[PaPaPumP]

Save your money?

[firedup]

IMO
you just get the side effects.
not the gain.