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    Arrow Fat Burner Effectiveness

    Assume the following ratings out of 10 for popular fat burners:
    DNP 10
    HGH 8
    Cytomel 7
    Ephedrine 6
    Clenbuterol 5

    How do the following supplements rate?
    6-OXO
    7-Keto DHEA
    A7-E
    Aminophylline
    Betaine HCL
    Bitter Orange/Citrus Aurantium
    Caffeine
    Cayenne
    Choline
    CLA
    Coleus Forskholii
    DMAE
    Evodiamine
    Forskolin
    Ginger
    Grapefruit Extract
    Green Tea
    Guggulsterones
    HCA
    HMB
    Korean Ginseng
    L-Carnitine
    L-Glutamine
    L-Theanine
    MCT Oil
    Octopamine
    Oolong Tea
    PEA
    Pyruvate
    Sesamin
    Siberian Ginseng
    Synephrine HCL
    Theobromine
    Tyramine
    Uva Ursi
    White Willow Bark
    Yerba Mate
    Yohimbine HCL
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    Thats a lot of supplements

    I cant believe you gave clen and ephedrine such low ratings. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewKid
    Thats a lot of supplements

    I cant believe you gave clen and ephedrine such low ratings. Why?
    Having no firsthand experience with either, I used the ratings from steroidworld.com. What would you give them?

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    well I know I would give ephedrine about a 9. I dont have any experience with clen but from the way EVERYONE talks about it you would think it was a miracle drug...used correctly of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewKid
    well I know I would give ephedrine about a 9. I dont have any experience with clen but from the way EVERYONE talks about it you would think it was a miracle drug...used correctly of course.
    how much ephedrine did u take throughout the day, and when do u take it. right now im taking 50mg a day. 25mg w/ breakfast, and 25mg with meal 4 which is afternnoon sometime.

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    I would always take around 25mgs with about 100mgs caffiene but not an ECA/ECY. I never took more than one dose per day at breakfast.

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    cool i guess i'll experiment with 25 and 50mg..what form do u get ur caffeine in.. i usuaully just drink a cup or two of coffee w/ splenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucabratzi
    cool i guess i'll experiment with 25 and 50mg..what form do u get ur caffeine in.. i usuaully just drink a cup or two of coffee w/ splenda.
    Green tea for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewKid
    well I know I would give ephedrine about a 9. I dont have any experience with clen but from the way EVERYONE talks about it you would think it was a miracle drug...used correctly of course.
    Thanks for pointing that out; knowing its true effectiveness I'm gonna order some Vasopro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrh
    Thanks for pointing that out; knowing its true effectiveness I'm gonna order some Vasopro.
    why dont u just get, the straight ephedrine pills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewKid
    Green tea for me
    i heard u shouldnt take ephedrine and green tea. i forget why i'll try to find the thread.

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    Ive heard you shouldnt take ephedrine and caffeine together period. but people do it so they can get the best stimulation despite its possible ill effects. Ive also heard that long term aspirin can give you stomache ulsers. If all this is true ECA stacks are extremely dangerous. Should be okay with two weeks on two weeks off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewKid
    Ive heard you shouldnt take ephedrine and caffeine together period. but people do it so they can get the best stimulation despite its possible ill effects. Ive also heard that long term aspirin can give you stomache ulsers. If all this is true ECA stacks are extremely dangerous. Should be okay with two weeks on two weeks off.
    i guess if ur only doin it once in a while, i would like to know what the sides are of mixing green tea and ephedrine, cause i read the label to my green tea extract and it said dont mix with asthma medications. which ephedrine is.

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    If its an extract then it may have to do with the extra EGCG Interesting though.

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    I have been taking vasopro 50mg ed for 2 weeks now and I have noticed anything extra that the diet and cardio is giving me.

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    yeah next time i cut ima do it with no ephedrine, and compare it to this one.
    do any of u know how long u can take ephedrine for, i've taken it for about 2 weeks and plan to keep goin another 4 or so, does anyone know if ur supposed to take a week off here and there or just keep going?

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    i'd cycle it 2 on 1 off or 4 on 1 off (weeks that is). I used to take it all the time for months on end back when it was still readily available in all of the major mixes and man did i come down hard when i finally came off. Felt like life was in slow motion for a few weeks. That's just what I did, any other ideas on cycling?

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    Green Tea extract, Caffeine, Diet and Cardio do it for me

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    ecs

    how much synephrine do i take for this stake, i dont mean to be off topic but i have searched and cant find dosage for synephrine. I heard it work really well but dont know how much to take. hope you guys can help

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    I would add a 7 oh product on there such as lean xtreme, its not a fat burner, but it STACKS GREAT!!! with one, ill never cut without it , im not to familiar with fat loss supps as i only did a true cutter once(im trying to bulk) but 2 weeks on heat stack and lean xtreme n i was looking cut up, with proper diet n cardio of course

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    synephrine

    this shit is dangerous thoe it work but do not exceed suggested amount

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucabratzi
    yeah next time i cut ima do it with no ephedrine, and compare it to this one.
    do any of u know how long u can take ephedrine for, i've taken it for about 2 weeks and plan to keep goin another 4 or so, does anyone know if ur supposed to take a week off here and there or just keep going?

    I usually run it for 3 weeks on, 1 week off.

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