ok lol ive been here only about a couple of months and i always see new posts about is celltec good or nitrotech well leyts sum it up right here......ive read almost evry post about the stuff and heres the average.......its not worth it for their products....everything they make is overpriced and tehir quality is not even that good .......so go for cheaper brands such as optinum or prolab but everyone please stop asking threads just sarch for any muscletec prodcuts and you will see so many threads.........sorry if i offend anyone just anoying looking at new threads saying ...is celltec as good as claims or hydroxycut vs other eca and so on ........i think muscletech is a trash brand and that almost any brand is better than them ...my favs are optinum,scifit, and ast