SD or PP which is really better

**Venum** · 03-28-2006, 08:17 PM

I am about to make a purchase of one of the two, before they are all off the market...So, which one is going to give me the most size? Side effects like being toxic on the liver you can control with liver clense and a few visits to the doctor...so which one will I be more happy with? How is the bloating comparison? Which works faster? Need help, anybody with experience and knowledge of either please give me some info. Thanks guys! ps- I did read other people's diaries on the two, but I need a little more info before I go and spend the money.....

**lc1987** · 03-28-2006, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Venum

I am about to make a purchase of one of the two, before they are all off the market...So, which one is going to give me the most size? Side effects like being toxic on the liver you can control with liver clense and a few visits to the doctor...so which one will I be more happy with? How is the bloating comparison? Which works faster? Need help, anybody with experience and knowledge of either please give me some info. Thanks guys! ps- I did read other people's diaries on the two, but I need a little more info before I go and spend the money.....

i believe sd is better man that's just in my opinion but i haven't ran this yet. i have read A LOT about sd and most people have very dry gains. i was reading this one post that i found on some random forum and this one guy gained 10 lbs. of muscle on a 2500 keto diet. i have sd on me right now and all the supps. along with it and tamox which is the very important supp that you need b'c it's for pct. but i decided not to run the cycle till at least i turn 21. if you want i could sell my sd to and the tamox for $70 total including shipping. now that's a bargain bro b/c tamox is about $50 and sd being somewhere around 30-40$. pm me if you are interested....

**lc1987** · 03-28-2006, 09:18 PM

also read this

SD cycle preview

this is a diary made not too long ago. these guys know what they are doing and they have made some pretty good gains. these are the guys that i asked for opinion when i was doing a research.

**Bojangles69** · 03-28-2006, 09:23 PM

buy a bottle of each, only way youll ever really know.

**Venum** · 03-28-2006, 09:41 PM

thanks guys...I heard alot that PP is better with the bloating, but I am not worried too much about that, the bloat can't be that terrible on SD. So I should take some milk thistle, multi's which i take anyway, and what else?

**kyjelly** · 03-28-2006, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Venum

thanks guys...I heard alot that PP is better with the bloating, but I am not worried too much about that, the bloat can't be that terrible on SD. So I should take some milk thistle, multi's which i take anyway, and what else?

Hawthorne Berry, FLush Free naicin, have a nice PCT, flax and fish oil

**dingobite** · 03-28-2006, 11:08 PM

I bloat on every thing ive taken (MD1-Mohn4), MD1, AD1, M1T, and M1T gels caps took Super drol for 5 weeks and my hip didnt budge a bit dont know where i kept the water i lost.

Ribs and abbs appearing more maybe lost 1% Bf.
Normal sets dont work to well with me ive been doing reps in six. Havent measured the arms yet started at 14 inchs 3 months back they look alot more definded not ripped even at the end of the week i took off.

my 35 year old SD cycle im going to start a little higher next time and stop on 4 pills a day. Lowest weight ive seen when i eat nothing was 180lbs 192lbs i average everyday at 5,10 tall.

Sd
weeks
1,2- 20mg
3,4- 30mg
5 40mg
Pct everything i could choke on.

**pelly789** · 03-29-2006, 10:05 AM

no need to run pp or sd for more than 4 weeks thats too long and 40mg is a little high and probaly wont yeild much more than 20-30mg ed and for pct "everything i choke on" ? whats that mean there are pct guidelines you should follow because pp and sd are both steroids and its not to be taken lightly

Originally Posted by dingobite

I bloat on every thing ive taken (MD1-Mohn4), MD1, AD1, M1T, and M1T gels caps took Super drol for 5 weeks and my hip didnt budge a bit dont know where i kept the water i lost.

Ribs and abbs appearing more maybe lost 1% Bf.
Normal sets dont work to well with me ive been doing reps in six. Havent measured the arms yet started at 14 inchs 3 months back they look alot more definded not ripped even at the end of the week i took off.

my 35 year old SD cycle im going to start a little higher next time and stop on 4 pills a day. Lowest weight ive seen when i eat nothing was 180lbs 192lbs i average everyday at 5,10 tall.

Sd
weeks
1,2- 20mg
3,4- 30mg
5 40mg
Pct everything i could choke on.

**skipsmokesbud** · 03-29-2006, 07:07 PM

superdrol deff is the way to go, i used this and gained 9 poundsin 3 weeks..also increases ur strength like abitch!

**Venum** · 03-29-2006, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by kyjelly

Hawthorne Berry, FLush Free naicin, have a nice PCT, flax and fish oil

what do you suggest for a good pct? tribulous?

**Giants11** · 03-29-2006, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Venum

what do you suggest for a good pct? tribulous?

You're kidding right?

**novastepp** · 03-29-2006, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Venum

what do you suggest for a good pct? tribulous?

i see you missed the "SEARCH FUNCTION" thread...try doing a search and you will find everything you need...

**Giants11** · 03-29-2006, 09:25 PM

Yeah, the search is often missed.

On top of that how can one tell you which one is better. They are totally different. That like asking what's better Dianabol or T-bol. They are totally different and do different things.

Again searching the forums alleviates much of the unknown.

I'll even put the link in here:
http://forums.steroid.com/search.php?f=4

**Venum** · 03-29-2006, 09:43 PM

For pct, clomid and nolva should be ok if I run it for 4 weeks after my SD cycle? I am kind of hard on cash...

**D-Bo Dre** · 03-29-2006, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Venum

For pct, clomid and nolva should be ok if I run it for 4 weeks after my SD cycle? I am kind of hard on cash...

Run Nolva.. Heads up.. SD requires additional supps to support liver, cholesterol, etc. So if you want to do it right, you have to be willing to dish out $$$ for these supps.

**novastepp** · 03-30-2006, 12:34 AM

if you don't have the $, don't do it...why wreck your body when trying to build it into a machine??? ridiculous...

**Venum** · 03-30-2006, 08:13 AM

i have the money for the stuff, just wondering how much the clomid and nolva will run me......never bought the stuff

**mg316** · 03-30-2006, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Venum

i have the money for the stuff, just wondering how much the clomid and nolva will run me......never bought the stuff

Here is where you should get your nolva and clomid, with the cost.
http://www.anabolicreview-research.c...5ddd58ae52bcd1

**Venum** · 03-30-2006, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by mg316

Here is where you should get your nolva and clomid, with the cost.
http://www.anabolicreview-research.c...5ddd58ae52bcd1

thanks man

**Giants11** · 03-30-2006, 11:14 AM

You could have easily done that yourself. The banner is on the top righ tof this web page.

**Venum** · 03-30-2006, 12:57 PM

Sorry giants, I am still new here, bare with me brother

**FreeDOOM** · 03-30-2006, 02:29 PM

I think superdrol is the best gained 10lbs in three weeks it made me lethargic though, kept it all after pct. I didnt find that PP worked as good for me. I would buy a bottle or two of each before they pull it.

**Venum** · 03-30-2006, 03:16 PM

how long do u think its gonna be before they clear the shelves?

**dingobite** · 04-01-2006, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by pelly789

no need to run pp or sd for more than 4 weeks thats too long and 40mg is a little high and probaly wont yeild much more than 20-30mg ed and for pct "everything i choke on" ? whats that mean there are pct guidelines you should follow because pp and sd are both steroids and its not to be taken lightly

When i ran PCT i had novadex, niacin, redyeast, flax seed also milkthistle i took these for 4 weeks novadex for 3 weeks.

Only reason i decided on to run it four weeks was do to i felt no differant than when i had began my cycle and the fact if i do another it will be months from now before the 2nd cycle begins.
Today im down to 188lbs with shorts and a shirt on i only take tuarine and flaxseed and still eat alot.

^^^ Thought i wrote the wrong message 188lbs yesturday.

**dingobite** · 04-01-2006, 02:16 PM

Also wanted to add i have a batch of stackers 3 from a 2 for one sell,

ive been taking at least one a day to help me piss more of the water i drink back out. I have a real problem releasing fluids thus gaining more weight than i should.

**sonar1234** · 04-01-2006, 03:57 PM

Stimulant X makes me piss just fine might wanna try it. Nearly lost 10 pounds in one week.

Now if i can remove the fat in the lower back area that would be great LOL

**Rip it** · 04-02-2006, 09:33 AM

maybe you should stack superdrol and phera-plex and see how that works for ya i might be doing that

**novastepp** · 04-02-2006, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Rip it

maybe you should stack superdrol and phera-plex and see how that works for ya i might be doing that

no need for that whatsoever...

**mg316** · 04-02-2006, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Rip it

maybe you should stack superdrol and phera-plex and see how that works for ya i might be doing that

You will **** your liver up stacking those 2, don't do it.

**sonar1234** · 04-02-2006, 12:04 PM

After reading a lot about superdrol i decided to stick with phera plex for my first cycle.

**Venum** · 04-02-2006, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by sonar1234

After reading a lot about superdrol i decided to stick with phera plex for my first cycle.

same here i am sending my SD back once it comes in the mail.

**CatalysT** · 04-02-2006, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Venum

same here i am sending my SD back once it comes in the mail.

now i dont think that is needed, they are pulling it soon, you should keep it and use it, if it your first cycle... you have to test the waters, so give both a shot, just make sure same time off as there was in your PCT. iight, good Luck bro.