Hemp vs Whey, is he right?

[l2elapse]

Well according to this guy Hemp is the magical protein, and whey just plain sucks. Tell me what you think
http://www.proteinbreakthrough.com/

[AnabolicBoy1981]

iv seen this before. i dont know.
i really dont feel like reading the whole thing. does he mention the BV of Hemp?

[Myka]

Once protein has been denatured, which means it’s been processed over temperatures of around 120 degrees – it kills the enzyme functions in the protein... It annihilates the good bacteria... And these two essential components make the amino acids “alive” or “electrically charged”. In other words, if you heat up the food IT’S DEAD. The nutrition is GONE!

so I cant eat chicken breast or pasta BULL

[ascendant]

i'm with you, newkid. this guy is sputtering out sh*t on that website faster than I can shovel it. first of all, never trust anyone trying to sell you something on a website cause they'll tell you anything to sell their product. something sold on store shelves at least has to be up to certain standards, but a website doesn't have any standards and people can make up whatever they want, which this guy unquestionably has. I couldn't even read all his nonsense, but I did scroll to the bottom and see he was trying to sell something to you.

If this guy knew of some big "conspiracy", I'm sure a lot more people would know about it than just him. Though heating does kill good bacteria, it also kills the potentially deadly ones. The good far outweighs the bad. Don't waste your time trusting a word that guy said on his site. He looks like he wants to just be the bodybuilding fields "Kevin Trudeau", but he lacks the credibility to even come close to doing so. Who's ever even heard of this guy???

[abstrack]

6 pounds for 115. Fuc that shit.

[Bryan2]

****ing hippies

[kloter1]

pure garbage.

[ascendant]

****ing hippies

lol, yea, they'll look for any reason (and way) to take in more weed, won't they?

"hey man, wow, we can like smoke the buds, and eat the leaves man. they're like so good for you man. wow, the colors man! weed is like good for everything man. it's the answer to everything man. rastafarian all the way! god was like a weed plant man, and we're like smoking and eating him. it's far out." hey, i got something for ya hippies...

Question: How do ya hide money from a hippy?

Answer: Put it under the soap!

[sonar1234]

Guess that the doctor who gave my father whey protein when he was recovering from chimo didnt quit know what he was talking about hey.

Whey is far behond just a regular bodybuilder protein, its got some serious immune system boosting properties, and can really help regenerate muscle tissue.

I dont know nothing about Hemp so i am not gonna trash it but this guy looks like an idiot trying to sell is stuff.

[kyjelly]

haha BULLSHIT! good ol' salesmen.....they tell you everything you wanna hear....dont buy into that shit

[BlueAndromeda73]

its bs man always trying to sell you something

[Milky87]

lol, yea, they'll look for any reason (and way) to take in more weed, won't they?

"hey man, wow, we can like smoke the buds, and eat the leaves man. they're like so good for you man. wow, the colors man! weed is like good for everything man. it's the answer to everything man. rastafarian all the way! god was like a weed plant man, and we're like smoking and eating him. it's far out." hey, i got something for ya hippies...

Question: How do ya hide money from a hippy?

Answer: Put it under the soap!

Hemp is different to cannabis. Hemp has almost no psychoactives in it at all and would not produce any typeof high when smoked or ingested.

[lc1987]

i agree with everyone. this is crap. did you see the pics that they listed on the site? it was probably him lol. most bodybuilders these days don't look like that. at least not that i know of....

[Myka]

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[BlueAndromeda73]

i agree with everyone. this is crap. did you see the pics that they listed on the site? it was probably him lol. most bodybuilders these days don't look like that. at least not that i know of....

check out Kovacs pics in the bb pics forum...hes got a disgusting gut

[ascendant]

i agree with everyone. this is crap. did you see the pics that they listed on the site? it was probably him lol. most bodybuilders these days don't look like that. at least not that i know of....

for starters, in response to your comment "milky87", I just want to emphasize your statement "Hemp has almost no psychoactives in it at all and would not produce any typeof high when smoked or ingested.". Yea, almost doesn't quite cut it. Even in his sales pitch, he claims their hemp has "only minimal amounts of thc", but it still has it. In high doses, it would still get you high and you're still taking in thc. Not saying it's such a bad thing, just seems like tree huggers would love this guy. Personally though, no thanks, especially for the price. Love how every alternative that comes out is always at least triple the price of what's currently available, don't you? Oh, and when I was a teenager, me and my buddies had smoked hemp a few times. It does still get you high. Not saying this stuff will, but hemp still does have a decent amount of thc in it.

oh, now in response to the quote above, i agree completely. you don't see a single pro nowadays with the stomach that the b&w pic had. first of all, the pro's now have much larger ab muscles and the pictures he had were just of ones that were distended. it's not a bigger gut, it's bigger muscles in the mid-section! personally, i thought the "big upper body with a tiny waist" looked rather disproportionate back in it's day. now, the pro's have those thick, powerful waists and he's trying to say that's a bad thing by claiming it's "bloat"? think hemp isn't the only thing he's taking in over there...

he later makes a claim that nobody now has arms like arnold in his days or other guys in the past with impressive physiques? who's this guy kidding?! you take arnold, even in his prime days, and put him up against todays pros like coleman or cutler and they'd make arnie their bitch. they're bigger, proportioned better, and this guy is trying to claim it's basically gone downhill? what a joke. must've had the female batch of his weed-protein before making that claim.

[bball_playa]

bull shieeee

[dink83]

i googled hemp protein. it runs about $15 per pound. A 45 gram serving only has about 15 grams of protein. pretty weak if you ask me. nutiva brand had a slightly better profile, with 11g of protein for a 30g serving, but that's nothing compared to stuff like ON gold standard which has 24g in a 28g serving. i also wonder if hemp protein has enough thc to make you fail a drug test

[ascendant]

i also wonder if hemp protein has enough thc to make you fail a drug test

excellent question. i'm interested in hearing some feedback on that? that could cause some serious issues down the road with people.

even if you explained after a test you're taking "hemp protein", i think most people would find a product like that very questionable considering it's female counterpart.

i would like to see someone who doesn't have anything to gain financially in the situation do a genuine independent scientific study and tell us the findings show that hemp protein is better than whey. i guarantee it's never gonna happen.

another issue i'm curious about is that whey protein from "dink83''s explanation seems to carry much more protein gram per gram in comparison to hemp. so what's the rest of the weight contain in that hemp that ISN'T protein?

[l2elapse]

no, hemp protein is THC free, "they" say since hemp is so bio available, 13 g of hemp protein is a lot in the body

[AnabolicBoy1981]

i wouldnt buy anything from a guy named "Wade Mcnutt". I hink he's mcNUTTS!LOL.

[dink83]

hemp protein isn't thc free. while the levels are extremely low compared to the smokeable stuff, there is still thc in male plants, which is what i'm assuming this stuff comes from

[ascendant]

no, hemp protein is THC free, "they" say since hemp is so bio available, 13 g of hemp protein is a lot in the body

well, if the hemp is thc free, then it is not "natural", which according to them would mean it's no good. in order to remove the thc, they'd have to process it. hemp cannot be grown free of thc, i don't care what anyone says. my father used to grow stuff crazier than cheech and chong, and i know from him that the male plants have thc as well and unless they're genetically modified, that wouldn't change. the males are what many people use in cooking (pot brownies), and you know where that takes people.

oh, and they also tried to claim whey protein is not very bio-available? 13grams is 13 grams, i don't care what anyone says, it's still a miniscule amount.

[l2elapse]

hemp or thc i mean,in order to be active has to be head activated, thus smoked, or in pot brownies, its mixe with an oil and heated

[dink83]

man, i was gonna run out and buy some hemp protein, but with all this sludge in my intestines from whey protein, i can't move

[ascendant]

hemp or thc i mean,in order to be active has to be head activated, thus smoked, or in pot brownies, its mixe with an oil and heated

does he actually say in his post it needs to be heat activated? if so, he really does have no idea what's going on. try eating some weed without heating it and tell me you don't get high from the thc still.

look, i don't smoke anymore, but when i did, i did just about anything you can think of with weed, short of injecting the stuff. smoked, cooked with, ate, etc. my dad grew, so we had dozens of plants to do whatever we wanted with. i can tell you from personal experience weed, both male and female plants, both have thc and no matter how it's consumed, the thc is as well, and it doesn't need to be "activated" by heat to give you the effects.

personally, i don't see how they could even allow this stuff on the market. next, they'll be putting cocaine back in coca-cola again, claiming unless it's snorted, it won't be "activated". cmon now.

[Milky87]

Actually, orally ingested cocaine has virtually no oral activity. The amount that was originally contained in coka-cola until 1903 ws minisucle, and unless you drank near a keg of it, wouldnt do anything.

He,p is legal for the same reason: no one is going ot consume THAT much to get high. Hemp isnt the male plant of cannabis, its a different species of the sativa strain. While I think of it, you can also buy coca legally provided it has been treated. Hell, you can even buy untreated coca provided you are Peruvian and are making traditional Peruvian tea

The other cannabinoids in cannabis can be heat treated to reduce them into THC and other more active cannabinoids. This is one of the reasons why smoking cannabis is more effective (along iwth greater bsorption) than oral ingestion

[ascendant]

Actually, orally ingested cocaine has virtually no oral activity. The amount that was originally contained in coka-cola until 1903 ws minisucle, and unless you drank near a keg of it, wouldnt do anything.

He,p is legal for the same reason: no one is going ot consume THAT much to get high. Hemp isnt the male plant of cannabis, its a different species of the sativa strain. While I think of it, you can also buy coca legally provided it has been treated. Hell, you can even buy untreated coca provided you are Peruvian and are making traditional Peruvian tea

The other cannabinoids in cannabis can be heat treated to reduce them into THC and other more active cannabinoids. This is one of the reasons why smoking cannabis is more effective (along iwth greater bsorption) than oral ingestion

well for starters, if cocaine has virtually no oral activity, why were people having withdrawl symptoms when it was first removed from coca-cola? there were documented cases everywhere of them, and i'm sure if you do a search on the web, your findings will confirm that.

maybe orally ingesting cocaine won't have the same effect as snorting it, but it still unquestionably has an effect, most importantly it's addictive quality. not to mention you can also find several deaths on the web related to people having eaten cocaine in attempts to conceal evidence during drug busts.

as for the hemp, it's not about a concern of getting high to me. all i'm saying is people are taking in thc, regardless of the amount. i just find it amusing that they'd make a product that's for bodybuilders from something with a drug like that in it.

as far as hemp not being the male counterpart of cannabis, not only do i believe that to be incorrect personally, but even a quote from that website states: "There’s hemp and cannabis. Cannabis is the female plant... And hemp is the male plant, which has a negligible THC content. So, it doesn’t cause any highs.". now i know this guy is full of it on most his statements on his site, but for him to mess something that important up i find highly unlikely. right there on the website, it says their plants contain thc as well. whether negligible or not, it's still in there.

last, about the difference in smoking or eating the cannabis (or in this case, the hemp), the main reason the inhalation provides a stronger effect is because as it goes through the stomach, the stomach acids affect it, the liver and kidneys filter it, then it finally hits the blood stream in far less concentrations. with inhalation however, it is immediately absorbed into the blood through the lungs, unfiltered in full concentration. that is what causes the actual major difference between the two.

[jkdpress10]

Bunch Of Mierda!!

[maxskyscraper]

He's definitely selling something and I don't trust his science, but I recently started taking hemp and I love it so far, but I still don't know how it stacks up to whey. I think it tastes better. I'm sick of flavored shakes and I think the hemp just tastes like the milk leftover after cereal. I've tried researching it as best I can from sites like http://www.hempproteinhq.com that are not actually selling anything, but for the most part everything I've seen is biased. It's either a company selling hemp protein claiming it's the greatest thing in the world or it's guys in these forums that have never tried it but immediately bash it because it's not whey.

Hence I'm now running my own personal experiment

[buggercatcher]

so...any of you buggercatchers open to using hemp protein? have you read enough, just enough to have the thought of

"wow....what if hemp IS better for me than whey.....i mean really.....WHAT IF?!?!?!

6lbs for $40 on amazon......you bugger catchers will jam all this anabolic steroid crap in your system, but are horrified at the thought of someone challenging the whey system. odd.

all you have to do is be OPEN to the possibility that there might be something else out there.....

buggercatcher