SD and Pissing Blood?? Help Quick.

**kyjelly** · 04-25-2006, 02:54 PM

Im in my 3rd week. But im running Ergo with it too. Each time I take an Ergo and/or SD pill, my next piss is semi red, like blood. Other piss's are fine and I drink plenty of water. Should I see a doctor or cut off the ergo and see what happens. Thanks guys!

**Rip it** · 04-25-2006, 03:13 PM

oh that is never good i would say if it happpens again see a doctor and think about cutting the ergo. What is your cycle that might tell something.

**kirk3624** · 04-25-2006, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by kyjelly

Im in my 3rd week. But im running Ergo with it too. Each time I take an Ergo and/or SD pill, my next piss is semi red, like blood. Other piss's are fine and I drink plenty of water. Should I see a doctor or cut off the ergo and see what happens. Thanks guys!

out of curiousity are you taking the recommended supplements like.....

milk thistle
hawthorne berry
red yeast rice
flush free niacin
multivitamin
cq10

any of that? or just drinking plenty of water?

**novastepp** · 04-25-2006, 03:44 PM

why would u compromise overall health with some muscle gains? stop and go see a doctor, and be honest with him.

**kirk3624** · 04-25-2006, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by novastepp

why would u compromise overall health with some muscle gains? stop and go see a doctor, and be honest with him.

GOOD ADVICE.

**Quil** · 04-25-2006, 03:55 PM

Dude, go to the doctor. Sounds like some bad shit with your kidneys.

**Myka** · 04-25-2006, 04:01 PM

2 orals...tisk tisk...go to the doctor bud

**maxmz** · 04-25-2006, 04:06 PM

Go to the Dr bro, get that check as soon as possible. It's better to lose some muscle right now than to lose a kidney or something else.

**Bryan2** · 04-25-2006, 05:01 PM

STOP TAKING EVERYTHING

SEE A DOCTOR NOW

this is VERY serious

**copenhagen** · 04-25-2006, 07:50 PM

wow, two methylated compounds are a big NO-NO. And if your not taking proper vitamins then that is a even bigger NO-NO! I think this is an example of why ph's are being pulled from the shelves, some people just start shoving stuff in their body because the "labels" don't tell the whole story. Hope this guy turns out ok.

**stayinstacked** · 04-25-2006, 07:52 PM

It may be some totally unrelated. I'm popping the shit out of superdrols and anavars, and I havent even had a stomach cramp

**lc1987** · 04-25-2006, 09:15 PM

WOW all this aas thing is scaring me. good thing i decided not to run drol. but anyway, all of them are right bro stop taking it right now. i would rather lose muscles than losing something else. and the hospital bills if you don't have a good insurance company tsk tsk ouch.

**ascendant** · 04-25-2006, 09:31 PM

does seem to be a kidney issue, and i would definitely stop popping those orals.

personally, i don't bother with orals anymore cause of the liver and kidney issues but if i ever did again for some reason, i'd know enough to not take more than one. i'd advise you do the same if you ever choose to do any again, and look into milk thistle and other things to add in with oral intake to prevent serious organ damage, like you seem to have now.

why pop a pill that damages your insides when you can become a pincushion and do a body good? i mean, miniscule amounts of scar tissue or significant liver/kidney damage? you be the judge, but when i go back on the gear, i'll be having pins hanging out my *ss.

**kyjelly** · 04-26-2006, 07:01 AM

OK, to clear things up better.

Yes, I was/am taking all the proper supps...heres what it all looked like.

SD-20/30/30/30
Ergo-20/20/20/20
Supps taking :::
-milk thistle
-liver support
-hawthorne berry
-red yeast rice
-multi-vitamin
-B5
-FF naicin

My piss was a little better this morning. Im choosing to cut it off completely. Like someone stated above, I'd rather lose a little muscle than overall health and well being.

Ev1 always said, too orals not good. But my friend just did a cycle and was fine, but I guess its not for me. Oh well. Now stopping it, Im gonna wait a few days and see if it betters, if not, then doc for sure.

So I stopped my cycle in 2 weeks and 1 day. I know I neeed to do PCT, but should I do it for 4 weeks anyways? Also, is there any kind of supp to take to better kidneys by any chance?

As for the SD/Ergo, with my 2 weeks, gained about 7 lbs, not too too great, but it was noticable by others. My strength jumped up the roof and I hit new records for me. Side effects didnt seem like an issue with me. Only compliant, if any, is the semi blood piss, but then again, that couldve been me, being stupid, and taking the Ergo along with it. But cant do anything about the past now, just prepare for future...for now its all natty training!

Oh yeah, I need advice for my PCT question. I have my PCT, take it now? and for how long? seeing how my cycle was only 2 weeks.

Thanks guys, and hopefully everything turns out fine.

**novastepp** · 04-26-2006, 09:10 AM

quit taking anything man, and why wait it out? just go, seriously...

**llsdotmacll** · 04-26-2006, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by novastepp

quit taking anything man, and why wait it out? just go, seriously...

i think hes done taking things, but he has the right idea in that he needs to do pct but u should jus go to the doctor... it cant hurt but waitning could

**mitch911** · 04-26-2006, 10:15 AM

thats a shitload of a cycle..surprised pumps and headaches and cramps u name it , hasnt made you quit

**kyjelly** · 04-26-2006, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by mitch911

thats a shitload of a cycle..surprised pumps and headaches and cramps u name it , hasnt made you quit

The first 2 days, I had headaches, but nothing really hit me hard. And come week 3, my piss is light red...I knew something is wrong. I cut it off, and today, my piss has been good so far.

I would take a SD pill, and my next 2 piss's would be slightly red, but as for today goes, so far so good.

As for novastepp, Im done with taking anything. But its cool for me to do my PCT correct? I was just wondering, since my cycle only went for 2 weeks and 1 day, how long should I carry out my PCT?

**mwolffey** · 04-26-2006, 02:27 PM

id say the normal pct time, 3 weeks

**l2elapse** · 04-26-2006, 02:53 PM

damn man just go to the doc

**kyjelly** · 04-26-2006, 02:56 PM

Ok, Im starting PCT 2marrow.

Also, Im going to the doc 2marrow like ev1 suggested.
Better safe than sorry.

**StateChamp** · 04-26-2006, 03:36 PM

good call man!!!!

**novastepp** · 04-26-2006, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by kyjelly

Ok, Im starting PCT 2marrow.

Also, Im going to the doc 2marrow like ev1 suggested.
Better safe than sorry.

go to the doctor before you make your body filter anything else that is unfamiliar. just stick to a diet for a few days until your doctor can tell you what the redness is from. i wouldn't even take PCT at this point just because i think knowing what the redness is coming from should be your first priority....but that is just my $.02

**kyjelly** · 04-26-2006, 08:13 PM

Well, does PCT have any effect on the kidney or anything. I mean, its not toxic or anything. So, it should be safe.

**novastepp** · 04-26-2006, 08:25 PM

do what u want.

**kyjelly** · 04-26-2006, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by novastepp

do what u want.

thanks bud, if it wasnt for you kicking me in my ass, I wouldnt be going to the doc 2marrow.

So maybe, you just saved my life.

**brutesinme** · 04-27-2006, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by kyjelly

thanks bud, if it wasnt for you kicking me in my ass, I wouldnt be going to the doc 2marrow.

So maybe, you just saved my life.

could you please stop using numbers as sylables!

**kyjelly** · 04-27-2006, 12:45 PM

So I went to the doctor today. He ran some test. He basically compared it to a brain on X. How it puts little holes into your brain. Well, come to find out, the SD and/or Ergo, were putting tiny little holes in my right kidney. He said to stop it asap, which I did, and it should repair itself at a good pace. And to just keep drinking lots of water ED like I do.

He said within 3-5 days of discontinued use, with ample water, it should be clear.

**Myka** · 04-27-2006, 01:10 PM

mean stuff

**DevilsDeity** · 04-27-2006, 01:30 PM

and people wonder why we say dont mix.. Sd is strong enough by its self , time off = time on , just cause its OTC does not mean it wont mess you up. Etc...

**kyjelly** · 04-27-2006, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by DevilsDeity

and people wonder why we say dont mix.. Sd is strong enough by its self , time off = time on , just cause its OTC does not mean it wont mess you up. Etc...

yep, your right. How my friend did it, I dont know. But I told him to go get checked out anyways just to be safe.

I think Ill be ok, its my 2nd day off and theres no red whatsoever. But Im not even thinking about hopping back on SD. If I ever do run anything again, its gonna be needles.