how is this pp pct?

**NightTrain** · 06-06-2006, 07:20 AM

ok het guys and gals, i know everyone is talking about the same stuff but im kinda in a tightspot. i have done alot of research but my time is kinda short. as some of you know or might remember..... im in Iraq and internet time is kinda hard. so need some insight. thanks.
pp cycle:10/20/30/30
with 2 grams hawthorne berry ed
perfect cycle ? tab per day
3000mg flax seed oil

pct:
6-oxo 600mg first 2 weeks, 300 3rd week and 100 fourth week
AX retain ed
AX pct ed
2 grams hawthorne berry ed

how does this sound? any more info will be greatly appreicated. once again i would post this if i could get the info in a more timely manner.
john

**Thekidtmac** · 06-06-2006, 07:54 AM

What kind of gains did you make on the Phera plex?

**mwolffey** · 06-06-2006, 08:10 AM

its freaking horrible...get nolva and clomid...nuff said

**rar1015** · 06-06-2006, 08:12 AM

This should be in the PCT forum correct?

**Thekidtmac** · 06-06-2006, 08:13 AM

You also need some milk thisel for liver support.

**Thekidtmac** · 06-06-2006, 08:14 AM

You also need some milk thisel for liver support.

**ndfan** · 06-06-2006, 08:57 AM

Vit C ,vit B complex, celery seed extract, red rice yeast would also be good.
Use the search button, tons of stuff on here about proper PCT and support sup. on here

**Papi93** · 06-06-2006, 06:46 PM

I would consider taking SERMs like nolva and clomid. The help return natural test levels and can help improve your blood lipid profiles.

**NightTrain** · 06-07-2006, 07:30 AM

ok papi, do you know if they make nolva in pill form? and a source where i could get it from? thanks for all the info.

**mwolffey** · 06-07-2006, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by NightTrain

ok papi, do you know if they make nolva in pill form? and a source where i could get it from? thanks for all the info.

nolva is a controlled substance...do not ask for sources

....and just get the "research" nolvadex

**NightTrain** · 06-07-2006, 08:08 AM

ok thanks for the info mwolffey. so do they make the reasearch nolva in pill form?

**NightTrain** · 06-07-2006, 08:55 PM

ok im gona go with the nova and clomid, can i drop the 6-oxo and the retain?

**mwolffey** · 06-07-2006, 09:05 PM

yes some research sites do, but the liquid is fairly easy and i trust ARR

***Narkissos*** · 06-08-2006, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by mwolffey

nolva is a controlled substance...do not ask for sources ....and just get the "research" nolvadex

ditto... please regard the rules of this site that you may know, for the future, what questions are 'acceptable'

Thanks

~Narkissos

**ndfan** · 06-08-2006, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by NightTrain

ok thanks for the info mwolffey. so do they make the reasearch nolva in pill form?

you can not get nolva without a doctor prescription. Go with the tamoxifen citrate from ARR they flavor it.

**NightTrain** · 06-08-2006, 10:22 AM

thanks for the info on AAR, checked it out, looks good. everyone says they are a reliable company. but i would still would like to know if i can drop the 6-oxo and retain from the above listed pct. plus the perfect cycle has 600mg of milk thistle in it so is that enough or should i get another product to go with it to incease the milk thisle intake?

**Papi93** · 06-08-2006, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by NightTrain

thanks for the info on AAR, checked it out, looks good. everyone says they are a reliable company. but i would still would like to know if i can drop the 6-oxo and retain from the above listed pct. plus the perfect cycle has 600mg of milk thistle in it so is that enough or should i get another product to go with it to incease the milk thisle intake?

I would drop the 6-oxo but you could still use retain as a cortisol blocker.

**NightTrain** · 06-08-2006, 07:54 PM

thanks papi93, what about the milk thistle?

**Quil** · 06-08-2006, 08:23 PM

I believe the general consensus on the dosage for milk thistle is about 1000mg a day...that is what I took on SD.

**Papi93** · 06-12-2006, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by NightTrain

thanks papi93, what about the milk thistle?

It is a good supplement for blood pressure support. Check out the stickie, at the top, by Bryan2. He goes through what you would need for liver support, blood pressure support, and cholesterol support. It is what I used to construct my PCT. Big thumbs for Bryan2's stickie.