Chance for gyno?

[No One Knows]

Do PP or Max LMG have the potential to cause gyno related sides? I know that LMG says no estrogen conversion but not sure about the PP..


If the chance for gyno does exhist, what is it caused by? Progestrone or estrogen?

[PowerHouse555]

Some of these product say no estrogen conversion but dont believe it have some good anti estrogens and pct ready or at least just in cause

[macrophage69alpha]

yes they can both cause gyno. Its most likely from progestenic binding (almost all the new designers are progestins).

using nolva with progestins will usually WORSEN not help. just an FYI

[copenhagen]

what about formestane powder for an anti-e? im curious about the nolva worsening the potential for gyno.....please elaborate!

[macrophage69alpha]

what about formestane powder for an anti-e? im curious about the nolva worsening the potential for gyno.....please elaborate!

nolva upregulates the PgR (progesterone receptor)

[Bulkcut]

thats right, I used SuperDrol and i got Gyno
I used clomid for PCT
So be carefull with that shit
Is there any supplement i can gain weight from and not get gyno for sure?

[copenhagen]

so what would be a good anti-e to use besides nolva?

[Bulkcut]

Do your research but from what i understand is when you come off your Test boosting suplement Then You start to take an AI(aromaste inhibitor) like letrozole and then slowly jump in to Nolva or clomid. This way you can prevent Estrogen Rebound. AI works different then Nolva or clomid otherwise knows as SERM. I found an awwsome thread over this. I will go find it and post it so you can do proper PCT. But yea, if you are prone to Gyno you can seriously get it with this shit cus i got it.

[Bulkcut]

Here is what i was tring to say but another guy explains it way better with dosages and everything
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

[copenhagen]

thanks for the link bro, but i am gonna stick with nolva, it has not failed me yet.

[macrophage69alpha]

thanks for the link bro, but i am gonna stick with nolva, it has not failed me yet.

if you plan on using it with a progestin..... you will get a good chance to see it do so...

[copenhagen]

if you plan on using it with a progestin..... you will get a good chance to see it do so...

im not sure what you meant by the response bro, but i have used sd/max lmg before and nolva has been good to me during pct, im guessing im not as prone to gyno as others, but thanks for the concern bro.

[macrophage69alpha]

im not sure what you meant by the response bro, but i have used sd/max lmg before and nolva has been good to me during pct, im guessing im not as prone to gyno as others, but thanks for the concern bro.

increases the risk of gyno, does not guarantee it. You indeed may not be prone, or you may have not experienced significant natural progesterone production suppression.

really reccomend an AI (steroidal) with HCG (low dose 200-500iu e3-e4d) and/or clomid (it does not upregulate PgR expression)

[No One Knows]

Does this apply to PCT?

Can nolva be used during pct or no?

[rar1015]

I was told that using nolva can cause or make existing gyno worse. Which sucks because i already had nolva on hand before i found this out.

[macrophage69alpha]

I was told that using nolva can cause or make existing gyno worse. Which sucks because i already had nolva on hand before i found this out.

if your gyno is natural and/or due to solely estrogen, then nolva can be very effective. Though AI's are generally better.

the issue is with progestins.

[unvme9180]

i keep hearing the same thing lately. nolva will make existing gyno worse or even create new gyno. i was told to use aromasin and clomid for pct instead of nolva and clomid. only thing is aromasin is much more pricey than nolva.

[rar1015]

Thats what ive heard too.