nighttrain's PP log...........

[NightTrain]

ok well i started my PP cycle this morning. i am taking 10 mg before work out with half my support supps and then the other 10 mg and support supps after luch around 12ish. i wieghed in at 194 this morning before drinking any water or eating so that will be the base line wieght for me. so that puts me at 5'10 194 lbs, 35 years old and in descent physical shape.
here is todays work out....

BACK AND BICEPS
ISO lateral high rows 180x12/200x10/200x12/200x8
ISO lateral reg rows 180x12/200x10/200x12
seated cable rows 170x12/190x10/190x10/190x8
seated dumbell curls 35x10/35x10/35x8
preacher curls 50x10/50x8/50x8
standing ez curls 70x12/70x8/70x8
dumbell shulder shrugs 70x10/70x10/70x10


ok will post again tommorrow, tommorrow is chest and triceps, but have a sick shoulder so it wont be nothing too crazy..... until im sure it is totally healed, its been 10 weeks s i think it is ok but still taking it a lil easy on it.

[rar1015]

Wouldnt having an injury be a bad time to start a cycle???

I think it is, IMO.

[NightTrain]

ok let me rephrase that shoulder comment, i tore something in high school, than again in basic training (16years ago), again in bosnia in 1999 and then again like 10-12 weeks ago and have been working out again on it for a few weeks. it seems to be ok, just havent really pushed it supper hard, as this is a reaccuring injury, so i do the exercises that i can with out any pain. we will see tommorrow morning if it is going to agree with me. im pretty sure it will be ok, just have to keep stricit form and only do what i can with out struggling and forcing the last few reps.

[rar1015]

Just be careful man, dont over train youself.

[Papi93]

Good to see that you are logging your workouts. I keep an eye for ya. Good luck with your cycle.

[NightTrain]

wieght 193lbs (down one pound but i think it is just my body fluxuating like normal)

CHEST AND TRICEPs

incline dumbbell press 50x10,50x10,50x10
incline bench press 110x10,120x10,130x9
pec deck 120x10,120x10,120x10

tricep pulldowns(rope) 60x10, 70x10, 70x10
tricep overhead cable extensions(rope) 55x12, 60x12,70x10
assited dips 2 sets to muscle failure

was kinda drained this morning but forced myself to go anyway, ran 3 miles last night, havent ran consistantly in almost 2 years, just a run here and there. have to start running again as my back is as good as its gona get and the ARMY wont let me use that as an excuse any more, lol
shoulder felt fine this morning, tommorrow is an off day.

[NightTrain]

well today was a down day from the gym, but i did run. lets see...... started back running last week,

first two days of running.......
3 miles in 29.30 min.
monday 3 miles in 27.30
today 3 miles in 27.00

i dont think the PP is having much to do with this but im just posting this as i dont work legs in the gym.

so far no side effects to report

tommorrow is back and bi's

[rar1015]

Dude we are basically doing the exact same cycle right now....its kinda funny. I started pp on monday and i just did some cardio today and tomorrow is back and biceps.

Good luck with ur cycle bro.

[NightTrain]

rar1015, looks like we are definitely running close to the same cycle. good luck with yours also.

hey question, bro, how much taurine are you taking daily? im currently collecting cans of RIP IT energy drink,(i get em free from the dinning facility, gota love free stuff), each 8oz can contains 1000mg of taurine. is 1000 mg enough to control the dreaded back pumps? i havent had any yet but was just wondering. i mean, hell ill drink as many as i need to make sure i can still move around if i get the "back pumps". thanks for all the continuing support.

[rar1015]

rar1015, looks like we are definitely running close to the same cycle. good luck with yours also.

hey question, bro, how much taurine are you taking daily? .

Thanks for the support man!!

I actually havent started taking it yet, im gonna go pick some up after work today and start it at probably around 500mgs. If i start to get some horrible back pumps i will increase it to around 1000mgs. From what i have read it is usually ran around 500-1000.

[NightTrain]

so you say you have read that you should take 500-1000mg of taurine ED to combat the back pumps............. well if that is the case, then i should be fine. good deal...... later bro

[Papi93]

so you say you have read that you should take 500-1000mg of taurine ED to combat the back pumps............. well if that is the case, then i should be fine. good deal...... later bro

That is a good dosage.

[rar1015]

I bumped my dosage of niacin up to 1000mgs today.

[NightTrain]

Today i missed my normal morning work out, walked to the gym and forgot my ID card so they wouldnt let me in. had to move work out to after work, not as good as i would have liked but i battled thru it, even after a day of 120 degree weather...... hate working out after along day in the heat.

Back and Biceps
ISO Lateral high rows 200x 10/ 210x10/ 210x8/ 200x8
Iso Lateral rows 200x10/ 110x10/ 210x8
lat pull downs (front) 125x10/ 170x6/ 150x10/ 150x10
Seated dumbell curls (hammer) 35x10/ 35x9/ 35x8
standing ez curl 50x12/ 50x15/ 50 x 12
shoulder shrugs (dumbell) 70x10/ 70x12/ 70x12
assisted close hand pull up 4 sets of 10

tommorrow is chest and triceps in the morning and then 3 mile run in the evening.

i wieghed in tonite but i was in ACUs and boots..... i think the agreed apoun amount for ACU and boots is 7 lbs, but im not sure, so i dont trust this weigh-in......... 204lbs minus the 7lbs should be 197 but i will wiegh-in in morning and have a better idea.

[NightTrain]

wieght this morning=196.5lbs..... so that is up 2.5 lbs since monday

chest and triceps
incline dumbbell press 55x10/55x8/55x8/55x8
incline bench press 130x10/140x10/150x10
pec deck 120x10/130x10/130x8
tricep pull down (small vbar) 75x10/85x10/ 90x8
overhead cable extentions (rope) 75x10/85x10/85x10
assited dips 4 ssets of 10
ok should be down for the weekend other than cardio tonite and maybe i will run over the weekend also

no sides to mention as of yet, although my back was stiff last night but i did back last night so i dont think it was pumps....

[Project]

I'm in week three of a PP cycle and have yet to experience any back pumps. I'd keep taking that 1000mg of taurine qd and have some extra on hand just in case. Keep gettin' butts in the gym and good luck man.

[NightTrain]

yeah ima keep the taurine level at around 1000mg to 2000mg, but only cause i drink the energy drinks that contain it any ways.

[Papi93]

I guess I was lucky because I didn't have any lower back pumps and, as a result, didn't need to supplement with taurine.

[NightTrain]

boy do i fell like crap..... just finished my cardio for today.
3 miles in 26.40
well its not fast but i did improve again over wensday. i guess i just gota kepp with it and i'll continue to get faster. plus it is burning some calories on my down days. tommorrow is sunday, and im taking it completely off

[rar1015]

Its good to take a day off. I usually take 1-2 days off a week.

[NightTrain]

day 8 wieght 197lbs
back and biceps

Iso Lateral rows 250x10/ 250x9/ 250x8
lat pull downs (front) 170x8/ 170x8/ 170x8
seated bent over cable rows 190x10/ 215x8/ 215x8
Seated dumbell curls (hammer) 40x10/ 40x9/ 40x8
standing ez curl 80x10/ 80x7/ 80 x 8
shoulder shrugs (dumbell) 75x10/ 70x10/ 70x10
preacher curl machine 100x10/ 100x8/ 100x9

no sides to talk about yet and i really felt good in the gym this morning.... was jumping up wieght like crazy, and this stuff aint even kicked in strong yet, i think...... cant wait until tommorrow.....chest and triceps....... have 3 miles to run tonite so i will post both workout when i post chest and tri's inthe morning... take care

[NightTrain]

day 8 evening cardio.......
ran 3 miles tonight in 25:40, so the time is drop as is my waist size i think. hoping to loose a good amount of excess wieght, thats the reason for running 3 miles 3 times a week, plus i have a physical fitness test coming up in sept and i need to work on my run time, so i figured i'd kill two birds with one stone.


day 9 wieght 198lbs...... thats a total of 4 pounds so far....
chest and triceps
incline dumbbell press 55x10/55x10/60x10/ 60x8
incline bench press 150x8/150x8/150x8/ 150x8
replaced pec deck with flat bench........... did 135x15/ 185x2/ then i quit as it hurts my shoulder so i wont be doing any flat barbel benching anytime soon...i'lll stick to the dumbbells and not so huge wieghts until i get to th epoint that it dont hurt no more, but im think ing that is never gona happen. so i guess its just do the exercises that down cause pain.
tricep pull down (small vbar) 85x10/100x10/ 100x10
overhead dumbell extentions 65x15/70x15/75x15....... i will start on fri day at 80lbs and do the max i can as i increase buy 5 pound intervals......2 weeks ago i was pressing 70 for a total of only 6 after doing 60/65 both for 10...
i am making crazy gains.... i hope this keeps up.

as far as side affects, none to mention as of now, i mean im tired but hell i was always tired anyways, the sun and heat just drains me.
assited dips 4 ssets of 10

[NightTrain]

day 10

cardio day..... normal cardio day for me, with nothing major to report, so fa i have had like no sides at all. well maybe a lil back pump here and there but notthing to really speak about.

3 miles in 25:52 this morning, was 12 seconds slower than monday nite but still an improvement over where i started.
lemme give ya a lil background info, i hurt my back in 2002, gota tackled from behind and bent over backwards..... have a protruding disk with and acute tear in it. have seen all the doc's and everyone says i just have to live with it so, i do. but the point of this is the month before the accident, i ran 2 miles in 12:16 which is pretty good i think. ever since it happened have not been able to get down to where i was( fastest time being 15ish), so any imporovemnets i ake in the cardio running part of this cycle is well worth the time and money......

[rar1015]

I have a bad back too man. I was always having back problems when i was younger and i went to the doctor once and they told be the bottom of my spine curved to the right so is was shaped almost like an "S." I started seeing a chiropractor for it for about a year and now i never really have any problems with my back. The chiropractor i saw was really good and i still go back every once in a while just to checked out and to have my back adjusted. At this point the only back pain i have is from the pp....lol, which really isnt bad at all. Just thought i would tell ya this because if you havent ever gone to a chiropractor (which im sure you probably have) i would, it really helped me out a lot.

[NightTrain]

thnks RAR, i have only seen military Docs no chiropractor yet..... maybe i will check one out when iget back to the world.

[rar1015]

I would bro...it really helped me out. Im still pretty young and i wanted to get my back taken care of now so its not as bad years down the road ya know.

[NightTrain]

back and bicep's wieght 199lbs
ISO row 270x10/360x5/360x5( with helpon last two sets, work out partner wanted to see if we could do it)
lat pulldowns 170x10/ 190x8/ 190x8
bent over cable rows 215x10/ 235x7/ 235x6
seated dumbell curls 40x9/ 40x8/40x8
preacher curl machine 100x10/110x9/120x7
dumbell shoulder shrugs 80x10/80x10/80x10

still no real side to speak of...
i have gained what looks to be 6 lbs sine day one and im feel stronger and am starting to look fuller, so i guess it is working...... hope to keep up the gains... tommorrow is chest and tri's should be a heavy day......

[rar1015]

When i started my cycle i was at about 202lbs. and now im at 208 1/2lbs. Im sure some of it was water weight but 6lbs for me so far too. Im looking forward to what the next couple of weeks of this cycle has in store.

[NightTrain]

i am also looking forward to the next couple of weeks. this is the heaviest i have ever been and i feel gr8. this cycle so far has been worth every penny.

[rar1015]

Yep same here.

[NightTrain]

day 12 wieght= 199
chest and triceps

incline dumbbell press 60x10,65x10,65x8
incline bench press 110x10,160x6,160x4
cable cross overs 40x10/ 40x10/ 40x8

tricep pulldowns(rope) 105x10, 105x10, 105x10
tricep overhead cable extensions(rope) 80x10, 80x10,80x10
tricep over head dumbell extensions 80x 10/ 80x10/ 80x7

was only 9 hours between the last 2 work outs, but i still felt great when i left the gym this morning. my partner was spent halfway thru the work out and was trying to cut excerises out. i had to ride his ass, but we finished. ad i still had energy, mentally i was great, physically my body was exhausted. this stuff is starting to kick now, i think......
no side as of yet.... i'll keep the posts comming. later bro's

[NightTrain]

day 15 wieght 200lbs
BACK AND BICEPS
lateral pull downs close hand 190x8/190x8/190x8
ISO lateral reg rows 270x10/300x7/320x6
seated dumbell curls 45x8/45x6/30x25
standing ez curls 70x12/70x10/70x10
hammer strength shoulder shrugs 270x6/270x6/270x5
pull ups 3 sets of 10
lower back extentions 2 sets of 15

once again no side effects at all that i really can think of, but im just half way thru this, so maybe they will come in the next 2 weeks..... im hoping for none.
got cardio tonight, think we are doing another 3 miles.

[NightTrain]

wieght 200lbs

chest and triceps

incline dumbbell press 75x10/75x8/75x8
incline bench press 160x8/160x8/160x6
pec deck 140x10/150x10/150x10

tricep pull down (small vbar) 120x10/120x10/ 120x8
overhead cable extentions (rope) 85x10/85x10/85x6
dumbbell tri extentions 85x10/85x8/85x8
2 sets of 50 situps

wow today was an awesome work out, i left the gym totally pumped. i really like this stuff. i have gained 6 pounds in 2 weeks and i can see myself getting larger everywhere. im losing my gut a lil also, so i think this is a very good product and would recommend it to any one wanting to make some pretty descent gains. i think i would have gained more if, i could eat cleaner, it is so very hard to eat alot and keep it clean, when all the choices you have are not so hot..... anyways, two weeks to go...........

[rar1015]

Good job man. I just weighed myself last night and i was up to 213lbs. I was at about 203 when i started too. Im sure some of it is fat or water weight but gaining about 10lbs so far is pretty damn good if ya ask me!!

[NightTrain]

day 18 wieght 201 lbs
BACK AND BICEPS
lateral pull downs wide grip 190x8/190x8/190x6
ISO lateral reg rows 320x7/320x6/320x6
bent over cable rows 235x10/ 235x7/ 235x7
seated dumbell curls 45x8/45x9/45x6
machine preacher curls 110x10/120x10/130x8
dumbbell shoulder shrugs 85x10/85x10/85x10

no sides to speak of............. did not have any energy in the gym, was dragging ass all morning, until i got to the preacher curl machine..... but that was the last excercise..... oh well there is always tommorrow...... chest and tri's

[sd-doggg]

You should look into cissus rx for your shoulder injury bro its a great product. Glad to see your making some gains, good luck with the rest of your cycle.

[NightTrain]

thanks for the info SD.... i might once this deployment is over...... kinda winding down, this cycle will probally be my last big push and then i will go in to a maintenance program until i get home...

[rar1015]

I've been tired as hell lately myself. For the past couple of weeks i just get home from work and pass out for at least a few hours. I would like to go to the gym earlier than i do but im just to damn tired but after i sleep for a bit im good to go so thats good.

[NightTrain]

day wieght 201lbs

chest and triceps

incline dumbbell press 75x10/75x8/75x8
incline bench press 170x8/170x7/170x6
pec deck 150x10/150x10/150x10

tricep pull down (small vbar) 120x15/135x15/ 145x15
overhead cable extentions (rope) 85x10/85x10/85x10
dumbbell tri extentions 85x10/85x9/85x8
2 sets of 50 situps

no side affects to speak of, but last night when i went for a run my back knotted up so bad i wanted to ball up and cry like alittle *beep*
but i gutted it out and finished the run...... 3 miles in 25:30

[NightTrain]

day 22 weight 201lbs
ok today i up the doseage to 30 mg, 20 mg before workout and 10 mg when i take the rest of the support supps....around 11ish..
i dont know if it is gona do anything or not but i had a little that was gona be left over so i fgured id up the doseage for 4 days and see if anything major happens

Back and Biceps

seated cable rows 235x9/235x8/235x8
Iso Lateral rows 320x9/ 340x6/ 340x6
lat pull downs (close grip) 190x10/ 190x6/ 190x6

Seated dumbell curls (hammer) 45x7/ 45x8/ 45x8
preacher curl 120x10/130x10/130x8
shoulder shrugs (dumbell) 85x10/ 85x10/ 85x10
assisted close hand pull up 4 sets of 10
last week on this cycle next monday i start pct and i hope i keep all the gains i have made. still NO side affects at all, but i havent gained as much as i would have liked to. i will do a diff cycle once i get back to the states and i can eat properly, just cant eat right over here.
oh well last week lets see what happens.................