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    Can you help?

    Hi,

    during my x-factor cycle i would like to use these supplements:

    melatonin + zinc

    arginine and ornithine

    creatine micro mono

    tongkat ali + chrysin and bioperine

    leucine

    foti or he shou wu, green tea and ALA

    are any of these supplements interfering with X-factor effects?

    I read that x-factor without creatine would be more potent due to the antinflamatory ability of creatine ; is it true? are some people gain more from x-factor without creatine?
    Any inputs?

    thanks

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    whats x-factor?

    you should change that avatar b4 you get in trouble

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    i love that avatar anyway

    x-factor is a very good supplements arachidonic acid

    some links

    molecular nutrition

    pm for web site

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    sounds like snake oil to me.
    do you have your diet in check?

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    nope believe me; it is 5 days i already got 1 kg! I am using only LJ100 and ZMA becasue not sure if i can use creatine etc... People experience between 8 to 15 pounds of muscle in 50 days. The research is sounds; lots of people they had good results; has been tested also at baylor university (i work as researcher in a sport sciences dept in the uk)

    the only problem is not that does not work , it is about safety related to arachidonic acid (you cannot use it more than 1750 grams a day and not for more than 50 days) and the problems about diets and side effects. if you not drink at least 2 liters of water surely u get headache; u cannot get any antiinflammatory drugs nor ***** 3 oils, cla, etc.. And it increases your doms after exercise.

    Actually i am responding even more quickly than the others because my diet is totally deficient in ***** 6 and AA. i do not eat beef or eggs; i suppose this make my body more receptive; it works also with creatine in this way i get huge gain from it.
    Last edited by shorinryu69; 09-01-2006 at 01:28 PM.

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    2 pounds in 5 days could jsut mean you ate more or drank more water. that doesnt mean it works. there are many products that have "sound" studies that don't work. arginine being an example.

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