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I have been shoping around for superdrol and found Oxodrol which has the same chemical 2a-17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one.
In all the supplement websites they say that SD has virtually no ability to be aromatized into estrogen. So why do pct?
Sorry if it’s a stupid question but I’m a noob that wants to be full researched and familiar with a drug before I put it in my body. Plus I am a little slow
Thanks!
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because SD shuts you down (some more than others)
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Originally Posted by 305GUY
Shuts what down? Your natty test production?
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pct is used to restore your natural testosterone production. if superdrol cannot convert to estrogen, that means you will not have as much use for ancilleries such as aromasin, arimidex (AI's), or nolvadex. so estrogen blocking supplements would not be required. but thats based on what you said, (SD doesn't convert to estro). i don't know SD back to front, but its the concept which matters.
pct should still be used. and i'm probably talking crazy, but i think i remember readin a post by a guy on here saying somethin about gyno and SD. but i can't remember 100%, too lazy to search.
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Using Nolva for pct after a superdrol/pp cycle has been known to cause gyno issues.
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yes.. and as crash stated no need to run any ancillaries during cycle but you wanna run a light pct to get everything back to normal.Shuts what down? Your natty test production?
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yes yyou need pct, SD is still a steroid and does shut u down. shut me down HARD and i was stupid and never ran pct (didnt know i was supposed to) and it took a LONG time to recover fully. personally i hated the product, made me lethargic as hell didnt wanna do anything, killed my appetite i couldnt eat hardly at all, and dry skin was horrible! my lips split, my nose, my back everything was so dry and chafed i hated it, worst cycle of anything i've ever ran. not to mention i think it may convert to estrogen because i held water for a while with it...which is odd seeing as how i had dry skin? not sure how it works but learn from my mistake definately run pct cuz i lost all and more when i came off
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Where can I get some PCT?
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click pct
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sd shut me down hard i used clomid took a bit but i rebounded....
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I read almost about every review out there on pct. But I don't get it why they refer to Clomiphene citrate as pct? why is Clomiphene citrate abbreviated as pct? Can someone answer this question. And by the way is it oral or injectable. I clicked the pct link and it say the stuff influence the production testestrone but it also say it is an estrogen. Anyway assuming I would like to use it to rejuvenate testestrone, how many week do I have to take it, and what regime to see some significant result?
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clomiphene citrate is not really abbreviated as pct...pct stands for post cycle therapy and there are a number of things one could take--clomid, nolva, aromasin etc. Stuff used for post cycle therapy falls under 2 categories: SERM (Selective estrogen receptor modulatar) and AI (Aromatise Inhibitor). They work via their own seperate mechanisms...if you want to learn more about what exactly they do go to the PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) forum and read all the stickies and some threads.I read almost about every review out there on pct. But I don't get it why they refer to Clomiphene citrate as pct? why is Clomiphene citrate abbreviated as pct? Can someone answer this question. And by the way is it oral or injectable. I clicked the pct link and it say the stuff influence the production testestrone but it also say it is an estrogen. Anyway assuming I would like to use it to rejuvenate testestrone, how many week do I have to take it, and what regime to see some significant result?
As far as dosing protocols go w/ clomid i ran mine for 4 weeks: Weeks 1 and 2:105mg/day Weeks3 and 4: 70mg/day
The stuff is oral and comes w/ an oral syringe used to measure the stuff out...then you just squirt it into your mouth.
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Million thanks for your insightful feedback. I will check the forum u suggested. Good luck to you
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not a problem bro!
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Ok correct me if I'm on the same page with most of u here; back in the old days there was no such thing as pct, right? Pct came to existence when anabolic abuse gotten worst and its side-effects was constantly on the news, then the pct concept was introduced to caution or suppress bad effects of roid to bodybuilders and athletes, right? I have been reading several post on pct on that forum, and it seems everyone there is drawing their conclusion. I had a hard time figuring who is an expert untill I start inconsidering those with poor grammer. But first what I would like to know furthermore is whether pct is recommended after, during, or before cycle assuming you're on a real gear not some fake shit?? Secondly, I came across interesting voacbularies like aromatization, and gyno. what are these two words mean?
later
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Im not too sure if "back in the old days" there was no pct
PCT is reccommended after a cycle-hence post cycle therapy
Aromatization is a process where your body converts testosterone into estrogen, and gyno (bitch tits) is a side effect of aromatization
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Thanks once again, Upstate !!
If there were ten individuals like u in this fora, a lot of people could have been better informed .
Anyway from your defination above, aromatization must be suppressed by any means necessary durring post cycle. I got it now.
And it really makes a lot of sense Cause over the years I have seen muscular fellows, I mean really big guys were act girlie and dressing like a sissy, more-or-less like a a gay dudes. Not that I hold any grudges against gay individuals, but I think that could be due to over aromitization phase in their post cycle circulatory system if you will.
Good luck to you pal, I gotta do some other readings...
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haha not a problem bro...good luck!Thanks once again, Upstate !!
If there were ten individuals like u in this fora, a lot of people could have been better informed .
Anyway from your defination above, aromatization must be suppressed by any means necessary durring post cycle. I got it now.
And it really makes a lot of sense Cause over the years I have seen muscular fellows, I mean really big guys were act girlie and dressing like a sissy, more-or-less like a a gay dudes. Not that I hold any grudges against gay individuals, but I think that could be due to over aromitization phase in their post cycle circulatory system if you will.
Good luck to you pal, I gotta do some other readings...
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Superdrol and the clones have been linked to delayed gyno. I ran my first cycle with no pct. I just assumed i wouldn't need it due to it's non- aromitization. About 6 weeks after my cycle ended, i noticed one nipple getting itchy, and puffy. I used letro to stop the gyno from getting worse. With my second cycle of superdol i ran it with letro .25 ed just to be safe, and used arimidex for pct. Recovered quickly and kept much more of my gains than the first cycle.
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Upstate,
I got another silly question, you know I'm still unfamilier with some of the roid jargons folks applied around here. What the heck is a test? what does it mean to do a test? what is the difference between a test and a cycle? I appreciate ur ffeedback !!
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You don't quite get it yet. Aromatization is the converstion of excess testosterone into estrogen. This is happening all the time in your body. When you inject yourself with more test (test is short for testosterone by the way) your body converts more to estrogen. One of the effects of increasing estrogen levels in men is gynocomastia, or bitch tits. Another is holding water.Thanks once again, Upstate !!
If there were ten individuals like u in this fora, a lot of people could have been better informed .
Anyway from your defination above, aromatization must be suppressed by any means necessary durring post cycle. I got it now.
And it really makes a lot of sense Cause over the years I have seen muscular fellows, I mean really big guys were act girlie and dressing like a sissy, more-or-less like a a gay dudes. Not that I hold any grudges against gay individuals, but I think that could be due to over aromitization phase in their post cycle circulatory system if you will.
Good luck to you pal, I gotta do some other readings...
PCT is a drug protocol to increase an individuals testosterone production after it has been shut down by the consumption of exogenous test or test analouges. All steroids are test analogues. Various drugs have been used to this purpose. Clomid is a popular one.
So the time that it is most crucial for aromatization to be inhibited is during cycle, post cycle your prime concern is increasing testosterone. hope this helps
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great post!
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and excess estrogen in the body is what turns bbers like you to act girlie
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Not really, excess estrogen can be beneficial in many ways...
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That's true to some extend because too much testostrone in the blood system can get u aggressively mad with people for no reason.
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You gotta take that link down man, read the rules pm a mod/vet for a source check
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dude, relax damn it. I'm not trying to raise hell here ok. I just want to be well informed, damn it.
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You better read the fvcking rules bro...
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That's true to some extend because too much testostrone in the blood system can get u aggressively mad with people for no reason.
I hope you are joking....
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relax that link is already deleted, thanx to brutesinhim !!!
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Take it easy fellows
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Stop telling people to relax and read the rules.
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