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I was just wondering if anyone on here has tried the myostatin blockers "Myostim" or "Myoblast"? Theres probly more these are the only two ive read about though. If anyones done them did you have any good results or just a waste of money like alot of stuff out there?
I have been trying to find out the same thing, man.
My buddies taking the Myostat by Biotest. I'll ask him and post up his thoughts and opinions about it.
I think eventually these will be the wave of the future .. but this is still a new finding .. it seems only a couple of months ago they were posting articles about myosatin .. and now they got all these supplements out .. think its too early to be spending money on something no one knows what the effects are going to be ..
BUMP any new info on this stuff??
I have been taking mystim for 18 days, My bench went up 20 ib my butterflys went up 30 ib I gained half and inch on my arm and i lost one waist size. This could just be cuz I was lazy before and just started taking it shortly after i started working out I dono :unsure:. I havent been working out hard at all but on my second month im going to try to bust some major ass. Ill keep you guys updated, im 5'6, 153 pounds (down a couple pounds) and i have a 14.5" arm just incase I dont remember :D
myostatin supplements are a con.
its created in multi-million dollar labs, it takes a long time to create a little. you cant just inject it or take a pill right now there now such delivery system. the origanal tests they did where on lab mice/rats, one was born natural and the other was born modifyed. it took years & years of research to achive what the origanal scientists did, do you really think a supplement company which cant even make steroid alternatives which are a proper steroid alternative could produce such an advanced product.
the reseach for Myostatin are highly classified and i think if biotest myostatin was a real copy they would have had the shit sue'd out of them from the Patent holders.
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How do you explain the gains I have got in less than 20 days?Quote:
Originally posted by physio_sport
myostatin supplements are a con.
its created in multi-million dollar labs, it takes a long time to create a little. you cant just inject it or take a pill right now there now such delivery system. the origanal tests they did where on lab mice/rats, one was born natural and the other was born modifyed. it took years & years of research to achive what the origanal scientists did, do you really think a supplement company which cant even make steroid alternatives which are a proper steroid alternative could produce such an advanced product.
the reseach for Myostatin are highly classified and i think if biotest myostatin was a real copy they would have had the shit sue'd out of them from the Patent holders.
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i cant explain your gains but can definently tell you right now its not because of that supplement.
heres what ast had to say:-
Late last year a report in the media blew the minds of bodybuilders who were wise enough to read the AST web site daily. Research performed by scientists from the Johns Hopkins University had created "massively-muscled, Arnold Schwarzenegger-like mice" by genetically engineering animals with a missing growth regulator called myostatin.
Myostatin is a gene (Now understand that a gene is a linear sequence of nucleotides along a segment of DNA that provides the coded instructions for synthesis of RNA, which, when translated into protein, leads to the expression of hereditary character.) that is a member of the Transforming Growth Factor-b (TGF-b) Superfamily.1 These genes encode factors that are essential to proper biological development during the embryonic stage.2 They are specifically expressed before birth.
Genetically engineered myostatin-free mice and cattle exhibit twice the lean muscle mass as their normal stable-mates, without extra feeding or resistance training!3 The important thing to understand is that these animals were genetically engineered to not possess the myostatin gene because myostatin limits muscle growth.3,4
A study published in 1998, revealed that myostatin is expressed in human skeletal muscle and levels are increased in muscle wasting diseases such as HIV.5 This research demonstrated that myostatin levels within the human body correlate inversely with fat-free mass. That is, the less myostatin in circulation, the more muscle you will have. This research confirmed that myostatin is a primary regulator of muscle growth in humans.5
Recently, the same scientists at Hopkins engineered a second group of mice whose genetic makeup shows it's possible to get the same amazing muscle growth-effect by blocking the myostatin gene rather than deleting it entirely.6
The Hopkins scientists identified several proteins, namely follistatin, mutant activin type II receptors, and myostatin propeptide, that can effectively block the activity of myostatin.6 Remember, if you can block myostatin, muscle growth will literally explode! Paul Delia reported this information in May last year.7
Now, a collective brains-trust of unscrupulous sports supplement marketers have recently cottoned on to this information and are attempting to pull more scams.8 These pumpkin heads are trying their best to make consumers believe that they have supplements that athletes can take that will block the activity of myostatin. I believe they also get the bulk of their product knowledge from Miss. Cleo the tarot card reader. If not product knowledge, they certainly get their marketing ideas from her.
The myostatin blocking-ability was not achieved by simply taking a pill or even receiving an injection. The Hopkins scientists are the world leaders in this technology, and they have only just recently been able to produce this ability to block myostatin using the latest, state-of-the-art genetic engineering techniques. What we are talking about is embryonic microinjections (gene manipulation before birth), numerous cross-linking experiments and cell cloning techniques to produce mice with various levels of the specific binding affinity mutations.
Myostatin is licensed to MetaMorphix, a company founded by one of the main researchers Se-Jin Lee, M.D., Ph.D., in 1995. This company was established to commercialize on work by Hopkins and other pharmaceutical companies in the field of growth and differentiation factors. Myostatin is sublicensed to American Home Products and Cape Aquaculture Technologies. The authors and the University own MetaMorphix stock and the authors also own CAT stock. Lee is a consultant to MetaMorphix and Cape Aquaculture Technologies. The other lead author of this research, Alexandra McPherron, Ph.D., is a consultant to Cape Aquaculture Technologies.
This is cutting-edge, multi-million dollar genetic research and it appears to be stitched up tight by some big companies and brilliant research minds. Do you really think some little snake-oil selling supplement company has the capacity, contacts, or finances to obtain this type of technology and then surpass it? Yeah, right! Not by a long shot.
The research on myostatin and the ability to block myostatin is very exciting. In 5 to 10 years, when it is possible to isolate, stabilize then synthesize on a large scale, the myostatin propeptide and follistatin protein blockers, it will be in the tight grip of billion dollar pharmaceutical companies. These drugs will be only made available on prescription for extreme wasting conditions. That is, until they find their way onto the black market, and then, god help this sport!
Now these companies with their "make-believe" products would love you to think they have the technology to produce such myostatin blockers. They will go to great lengths concocting tales of top secret, undercover research. They'll spin the story well. You better believe they will.
But by now you should know the script. First they will come out with a pill or a powder. Then another company will come out with the "better" liquid version. Of course it will be stabilized and guaranteed stable for 2 years. Then yet another company will come out with the transdermal myostatin cream that you simply rub on what ever muscle you want to increase the size of. Oh, and don't forget the special "night time" myostatin formula. And why stop there, how about the really special "Myagra-statin" because "girls really want a bigger man." Welcome to Fantasy Island, I mean the sports supplement industry.
Great post physio_sport. Kinda clears up the speculation about the product.
Well look at what they used to say about eggs or tea even and now they have decided they are good for you. Things change, I am going to keep taking it and we will just see....Quote:
Originally posted by Big_Dippin
Great post physio_sport. Kinda clears up the speculation about the product.
awesome post physio_sport
Thanks
Does no one listen on this board? Who here is taking myostatin blockers, raise your hand :hello: ......
I just bought the pinnacle MyoZap juiced protein. Taste good. Don't know if it works. Its my third day since I have had it. Will keep u guys updated on the results.
hell ya ......:hello:
Does that drink have cystoseira canariensis in it?
yes it does. 200 mg in one scoop.
I take 1200mg of it a day....
Right now I'm taking 600 mg/day. Wld love to try MyoStat or MyoBlast but not available in Canada yet.
DAmn good artical physio. great info.
twisted keep us updated on your progress with the myostin blockers
maybe you found the right supp company.
i don't trust any of the companies when they give out info. on another supplement. i don't know why anyone would. every supplement company is out to make a buck, plain and simple. some are more honest than others in the quality and choice of what supplements they make. but why should i believe that a supplement is bad just because another company says so? they could just be trying to bad-mouth the other company to reduce their profits and gain a false sense of consumer trust. i have seen AST's website, and also received an e-mail from Lee Labrada's BB club discounting myostatin and the related products, but then you also see in the magazines the new ad sponsored by Pinnacle, Cytodyne, and Biotest (the 3 companies who currently have myostatin products on the market) which claim that the other companies are simply putting on a smear campaign since they didn't get their hands on myostatin first. i'll agree there is a lot of evidence in this particular case, and that the test animals they used had their genes genetically altered and didn't take the supplement orally, but all i'm saying is believe 1/2 of what you see and none of what you hear. i'd rather try the product and see for myself, or ask a friend what he thought of it, instead of listening to what rival supplement companies are saying. not a flame, just saying i don't trust a single company out there, and neither should you guys.
What do you mean? I never said champion nutrition bad mouthed another company and said there mystatin binder is better than somone elses. I never read that from them either, i agree most any company that sells and product is half full of shit. I goto by a part for my car and the company says this and that and half of it is never true.
Oh well :unsure:
bump.....after all these posts theres still barely anybody who has taken this stuff. any1 whos taken any myostatin blockers lately and wants to share with us your results would be appreciated.........
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Suppliments are tough - regardless of what they claim to do. My own personal experience with most are bias, because I was lazy prior to taking them....so when I finally did get around to taking them I had also just started doing some heavy training. Which made me grow/get lean? The training of course. The suppliment probably had very little to do with the entire process.
Here's a great test - Take some of these suppliments and do NOTHING for 11 weeks. Don't train, don't run, just hang out and see how it goes. I bet you'll find that this suppliment does very little for ya.