fatloss

[bigeater]

If you´re taking clen 2 weeks on/2 weeks off, what fatloss supplement is good to take on your offweeks?
I know that you shouldn´t take ECA because it works the same way.

[BlackWidow]

You should take ECA on the 2 off weeks.... No matter same mechanism or not !
These all thermogenics and that's what you want.

[hawktribal]

i'll second the eca on the 2 weeks off clen

[bigeater]

You should take ECA on the 2 off weeks.... No matter same mechanism or not !
These all thermogenics and that's what you want.

Ok. Some guys and this forum have wrote that it´s bad to take eca on your offweeks from clen . Here is a quote from the clen profile:
Since we’re speaking about beta-receptors and upregulation, here, let me address the claim that you can use ephedrine (or the ECA stack), alternating with clen, in order to avoid receptor downgrade. I’m not sure where this rumor came from, but it is totally incorrect.

To dispel this myth, lets examine ephedrine for a second. Remember when I said that using clenbuterol to stimulate the beta-2 receptors is like hitting a tack with a hammer? Well, Ephedrine is like a sledge-hammer, it hits the beta-2's and everything around them. Thats because it's not selective, but rather it stimulates other receptors to a great degree as well.

Anyway, one of those receptors that ephedrine hits is the Beta-2 (yeah...the same one as Clen). As you can see from the graph below(ephedrine is represented by the the solid circles), it reduced Beta-2-AndrenergicReceptor (what we call, in laymens terms, the "Beta-2 receptor") levels to 32% of the control level after 24 hours. Read this again:

Ephedrine, in this study, reduces Beta-2 receptor levels to 32% of control after 24 hours. Granted, it's not perfect, it's not in vivo, etc...but there's no denying that ephedrine will downregulate beta-2 receptors....ergo you will not be able to use it on the weeks inbetween your clen to upgrade your receptors.

[bigeater]

So what would be good to take on my offweeks from clen if I don´t take ECA?
or would it better to just take clen 6 weeks straight with benadryl the 3 and 6 week?

[hawktribal]

you could use a thermogenic if you wanted.. i've used clen /eca with great effectiveness just for the record. don't take 6 straight weeks of clen. make sure you're 2 wks on/2wks off. you won't get much out of it if you run for 6 straight.

[bigeater]

you could use a thermogenic if you wanted.. i've used clen/eca with great effectiveness just for the record. don't take 6 straight weeks of clen. make sure you're 2 wks on/2wks off. you won't get much out of it if you run for 6 straight.

Thank you for your reply.
What do you think of takeing T3 at a low or moderate dosage if I´m not on any aas? Would I loose a lot of muscle?
I don´t weight much. I have some fat in my chest and legs that I want to get rid of. I maybe have high estrogen. I´m going to take a low dose of letro with clen and maybe t3.

[perfectbeast2001]

I would not use t3 if you are not on AS it will waste muscle. The guys above are correct, ECA and clen both downregulate beta receptors so using ECA in off time is pointless. A better option maybe to use benadryl or ketoifen. Benadryl is taken every third week at usually 50mg every night for 7 days. This will upregulate your beta receptors making it possible to stay on clen indefinately. Ketoifen is dosed with clen ED but I do not like it as it makes me drowsy.

[bigeater]

I would not use t3 if you are not on AS it will waste muscle. The guys above are correct, ECA and clen both downregulate beta receptors so using ECA in off time is pointless. A better option maybe to use benadryl or ketoifen. Benadryl is taken every third week at usually 50mg every night for 7 days. This will upregulate your beta receptors making it possible to stay on clen indefinately. Ketoifen is dosed with clen ED but I do not like it as it makes me drowsy.

Don´t you mean that I am correct?
I asked what I can take on my offweeks from clen , other than eca because it works the same way. The guys above answered that I still could take eca.
When you say that I could take benadryl every third week do you mean that I should take clen for 6 - 8 weeks straight.

[bigeater]

what would be good to take in my offweeks if I don´t take ECA?

[embalmer]

two threads up he just answered it

[bigeater]

two threads up he just answered it

he didn´t answered my first question, what I can take in my offweeks from clen . He wrote that I can take ketotifen or benadryl with clen. By that he problary ment that I could take clen 6 weeks straight with benadryl every third week.
I don´t know if it´s best to take clen 2 weeks on/2 weeks off or 6 - 8 weeks straight.

[bigeater]

So should I take clen 2 weeks on/2 weeks off and eca in my off weeks or clen ed for 6 - 8 weeks with benadryl every third week?
What is most effective?

[bigeater]

So should I take clen 2 weeks on/2 weeks off and eca in my off weeks or clen ed for 6 - 8 weeks with benadryl every third week?
What is most effective?