Off to GNC, which creatine should I get?/

[ThizzKing]

Hello all, Im currently skinny (150 pounds at age 18) and instead of taking a cycle, id like to do some creatine first. What would you recommend as the best creatine for weight gain?? I drink protein shakes daily so let me know asap, going to gnc asap

[MuscleScience]

GNC is way overprice, go somewhere else like vitamin world or something like that if you have one.

[ThizzKing]

ok will do, but what do i need to get? lol. looking for creatine and a good whey protein

[MuscleScience]

ok will do, but what do i need to get? lol. looking for creatine and a good whey protein

With the Creatine you have two options. One without sugar (dextrose) or one with. Creatine is shuttled into the muscle cells by way of a Glucose dependent membrane channel. Basically if you take Creatine with with sugar it will transport into the muscle cells faster and more effectively and less will be lost in the urine. If you get Pure Creatine monohydrate which is the cheapest you can take it with juice. Since fruit juice is composed of fructose it will be converted to glucose by the body. If caloric intake is a concern you can take it with just water or in a pill form (more expensive per gram). You may have to take a little more. You do not need to do a loading phase nessicarily since your body has a fininte amount that it can take up at any one period in time. However some people like to load and thats fine but it will cost you more to do that. After about a month your muscle cells will reach a saturation point were they can no longer uptake anymore creatine thus you can go into a maintainence phase where you reduce the amount to between 3-5 grams a day. Your body naturally recycles creatine in the cell this is why you can do a reduced intake. The exact amount to take will vary by weight. I take at 195 lbs only 5 mg per day. when Im on a maintaince phase I take 3 mg per day. There is also Creatine ethyl ester, but I dont know enough about that particular compound to give you any advice on.


As far as protein ask for samples to taste and look for ones that have low sugar and low fat totals. And try to avoid ones that contain the amino acids
methionine and homocysteine They contain sulfur. The sulfur will be turned into Hydrogen Sulfideby the bacteria in your intestines and will give your the farts really bad. Most protein powders take these two out some dont so be away of that.

Note: Dextrose is another name for Glucose.

[Teegunn]

For bulking purposes, I recommend a flavored/sugared creatine called Evolve. It has about a 3rd of the carbs/sugars as cell tech, but seems to actually hit harder. Tastes better and is about half the cost to use, too.

However, I personally don't want to bulk, so I use an esterfied creatine. CR5 is the name of the one I use. It also has krealkalyn in it too. 6 caps a day is all I need.

[ThizzKing]

Im trying to bulk so I will check out the Evolve....WOULD YOU RECCOMEND PILLS OR POWDER??

[UpstateTank]

whats your diet like? all the creatine in the world wont save you unless you have a set diet

[Fordfan01]

I have tried both the powder and the pill form and i really cant tell a difference. I too am skinny (6'2" 170) and i like to use a weight gainer to help me get my cals up. I like the Heavyweight gainer 900 or the BSN weightgainer. If u want to go cheap but still good u can get just plain creatine and plain dextrose and mix them togather. Hit me up with a pm cause i got plenty more supps in my diet that are very helpful.

[Fordfan01]

Upstates right all the supps in the world wont help without the right diet

[MuscleScience]

Im trying to bulk so I will check out the Evolve....WOULD YOU RECCOMEND PILLS OR POWDER??

pills are more expensive per gram, but for me they are a lot easier to remember to take and to actually want to take. Creatine monohydrate in powder form is not soluble in water.

[ThizzKing]

My diet use to be slacking, but I started working out heavily recently so I've been eating regularly 4-5 times per day mixing in Protein shakes throughout the day. Don't have set diet, but eat lots of meats and go out often and eat all day long.

[Fordfan01]

It would help if u had some type of scheduled diet. I recently started a bulking diet and it helped so much to have it layed out. I eat 8 times a day and ive gained 7 pounds in the past 2 and a half weeks.

[ThizzKing]

I dont know where to start to make a scheduled diet. Ive tried but just cant do it. i am also very picky with foods so oats/tuna would NOT be acceptable

[Fordfan01]

It not just about the protien u need a large amount of calories and carbs along with protein to put on weight

[ThizzKing]

I do eat as much as I can. can you maybe help meout with sample diet

[Fordfan01]

If u go to the diet forum open up the unoffical how to bulk thread and look at the sample diet. I just modified this diet with a weightgaining shake. I intake about 2000 calories a day just from that weightgainer.

[italianplayboy09]

get the powder form you absorb more then the pill, also as far as weight gainers cytogainer is awesome and tastes awesome too

[ThizzKing]

So you'd reccomend me taking a weight gainer, heavy diet, protein shakes and creatine? How often should i take the weight gainer and how often should i take protein shakes?

[Fordfan01]

I hit u up with a pm i can help u out with wat u need

[MuscleScience]

There is no really mystery to diet or any magic diet. all you need to do is get a health mix of fats, carbs and protein. Everybody tries to make these ungodly complicated diet programs. But believe me if you eat right your body will know what to do.

[ThizzKing]

thanks for the help guys, just sent ya another PM fordfan. I think this route will be a lot better than me taking another cycle.....maybe after a few more months :-D

[oak2429]

cell tech help me put on some weight when i was 18. make sure you r gettin a bunch of protein i n your diet

[K.Biz]

i like the CE2 personally, a lil pricey though

[ThizzKing]

Best reccomendation for weight gain would be cell tech do you all agree?

[chest6]

I dont know where to start to make a scheduled diet. Ive tried but just cant do it. i am also very picky with foods so oats/tuna would NOT be acceptable

then stay at 150lbs

[MuscleScience]

just lift, eat a balance diet and mix a little cardio and you will bulk fine.
You dont have to eat exotic sh-t to get big.

[ThizzKing]

heh. sounds good. Gonna try to down some tuna in the upcoming days....cant wait!!!

[MuscleScience]

dude shoot me a pm I will help you out.

[Teegunn]

Im trying to bulk so I will check out the Evolve....WOULD YOU RECCOMEND PILLS OR POWDER??

Evolve only comes in powder form. It tastes and works better than Cell Tech.

Evolve is hard to find online. If you can't find it online, PM me and I'll give you their number to the place I get mine as I know they ship free of charge. They do for me at least.

[davieric]

then stay at 150lbs

Without a proper diet you wont get anywhere. creatine is a waste of money, save that money and spend it on food. Creatine wont make you gain weight, FOOD will. The difference from taking creatine vs. not taking it is next to nothing. All the hype surround creatine is a lie, I've been there, I'm sure when we all started we fell for the claims that you'll gain 10lbs-15lbs from doing one month of creatine. Then you have to go off for a month because of the "liver toxicity" and all the "damage" it's doing to your body. At 150lbs you'll benefit WAY more getting your diet together, and if you're not willing to do that, don't bother starting in the first place.

That's my rant for the day, I embarrassed myself asking these questions when i first started to. My advice, save the money and go buy more food. Eat eat eat, this is one of the best places to get the information you need. Use it.

[MuscleScience]

Without a proper diet you wont get anywhere. creatine is a waste of money, save that money and spend it on food. Creatine wont make you gain weight, FOOD will. The difference from taking creatine vs. not taking it is next to nothing. All the hype surround creatine is a lie, I've been there, I'm sure when we all started we fell for the claims that you'll gain 10lbs-15lbs from doing one month of creatine. Then you have to go off for a month because of the "liver toxicity" and all the "damage" it's doing to your body. At 150lbs you'll benefit WAY more getting your diet together, and if you're not willing to do that, don't bother starting in the first place.

That's my rant for the day, I embarrassed myself asking these questions when i first started to. My advice, save the money and go buy more food. Eat eat eat, this is one of the best places to get the information you need. Use it.

There have been thousands of studies on creatine, and practically everyone has shown that its very effective and has no toxic side effects.

[davieric]

that whole sentence was sarcasm, there are little/no side effects. but i disagree that it is "very" effective.

[MuscleScience]

that whole sentence was sarcasm, there are little/no side effects. but i disagree that it is "very" effective.

I was going to say, you sounded like one of those old old old school BB's from 1995 that said creatine would cause your kindneys to fail and sh-t like that.
Sorry hard to pickout sarcasm in the threads sometimes.

I put 25 lbs on with creatine last winter. It works for some and not for others. I have another friend who took it religously and had a great diet but just couldnt gain at all with it. First time i took it bam put like 30 lbs on my bench in a month

[MuscleScience]

and compared to anabolics i totally agree with you Davie

[Venum]

first of all NEVER go to GNC...ever!!! Search online everyone here can give you cheap sites to order off....2nd, I know a few people who were really skinny and cell tech seemed to put some lbs on them, along with taking a weight gainer(i like cytogainer) shake a couple times a day. But like everyone else says...EATTTTT..learn to like oats and tuna. brown rice, pasta, yams, etc...i would aslo make sure your work out routine is in check...big compound movements and heavy. 6-8 reps...give it time bro. keep eating, lifting hard, and asking questions and you will be fine

[ThizzKing]

Should I take weight gainer on top of N2 Protein shakes? About 500 calories and 52G protein in the N2 Protein shakes...

How many weight gainer / how many protein shakes a day

[eyecandy_44]

GNC???! go to lionnutrition.com. i got some CEE for super cheap and i have had really good results

[UpstateTank]

Should I take weight gainer on top of N2 Protein shakes? About 500 calories and 52G protein in the N2 Protein shakes...

How many weight gainer / how many protein shakes a day

nope you need a helluva a lot of whole food

[Venum]

get most of your calories from real food, but if you want have a weight gainer one time during the day, and one for post work out...you know you should be eating minimum 6 times a day if you want to grow right? you should be asking more questions about what one of your meals should look like instead of asking about shakes all the time

[CSAR]

get most of your calories from real food, but if you want have a weight gainer one time during the day, and one for post work out...you know you should be eating minimum 6 times a day if you want to grow right? you should be asking more questions about what one of your meals should look like instead of asking about shakes all the time

Agreed 100%. Dude, you gotta get over being finicky about food (You're not Morris the cat, are you?). Repeat this mantra 1000 times a day, "EAT TO GROW...EAT TO GROW...EAT TO GROW..."

Protein / weight gainer shakes and creatine will help, but they are SUPPLEMENTS, meaning they supplement an existing diet of good, healthy foods. If you get your diet in check first, you'll see a whole lot more effects when you add the supps.

IMO, as far as creatine supps go, Vitargo CGL is the best. Even better than CEE. Way superior to creatine supps using dextrose or maltodextrin. It uses waxy maize starch and is sugar free. I'm not saying that other creatine supps don't work (I got nice gains/pumps from CellTech and Cell Mass), but NOTHING comes close to VCGL. Anyhow, I'm getting ahead of myself here. Again, get your diet in order first...THEN add the supps.