im 19

**Schmidty** · 12-06-2006, 12:51 PM

And I want to know if its ok to use MyoGen. If so how many pills a day, do you have to cycle it. BTW I had blood work done and have low test.

**Schmidty** · 12-06-2006, 03:36 PM

bumpadee bump

**notorious_mem** · 12-06-2006, 11:27 PM

schmidty im curious at 19 you have low test...i cant remember but have you had a bad cycle before or is this naturally low test?

**K.Biz** · 12-07-2006, 01:39 PM

19 and low test?

**Schmidty** · 12-07-2006, 03:12 PM

I have it natty and low thyroid

**CoreyTampa09** · 12-07-2006, 05:11 PM

I have natty low test too schmidty kinda curious if this could help me out as well.

**Schmidty** · 12-07-2006, 05:52 PM

bump

**Schmidty** · 12-08-2006, 11:09 AM

Bump

**Johny-too-small** · 12-08-2006, 11:12 AM

Schmidty, did you post that you've had a heart attack or an I way confused?

**Schmidty** · 12-08-2006, 11:48 AM

Yeah I had one a few years back I was 17 and did to many drugs inone night.

**Johny-too-small** · 12-08-2006, 12:14 PM

Sorry to hear that. Everything good? Any major heart damage?

**Schmidty** · 12-08-2006, 12:24 PM

No major heart damage I just had to get clean.

**K.Biz** · 12-08-2006, 01:33 PM

I would say before you do MyoGen. you run a full PCT. that should help you get your test up. then do the MyoGen.

**italianplayboy09** · 12-08-2006, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by K.Biz

I would say before you do MyoGen. you run a full PCT. that should help you get your test up. then do the MyoGen.

why?

**K.Biz** · 12-08-2006, 01:48 PM

I guess he coudl stack the MyoGen with a PCT, but a PCT will help his natrual test levels increase. And if this new myogen is as great as i have herd the 600% increase should give him great results. But getting a natrual test levels to normal shoudl be more important then just juicin his body with test, whos to say when he goes of the Myogen his test levels wont fall again?

i think it would be wise to get his test to a stable level before hes using somthing to increase his test production

**italianplayboy09** · 12-08-2006, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by K.Biz

I guess he coudl stack the MyoGen with a PCT, but a PCT will help his natrual test levels increase. And if this new myogen is as great as i have herd the 600% increase should give him great results. But getting a natrual test levels to normal shoudl be more important then just juicin his body with test, whos to say when he goes of the Myogen his test levels wont fall again?

i think it would be wise to get his test to a stable level before hes using somthing to increase his test production

myogen is a natural test booster is it not? if so how why would you need to have your test levels stable when you can increase test levels by using myogen? youre telling him to spend money on pct in order to take myogen which makes no sense what so ever

**K.Biz** · 12-08-2006, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by italianplayboy09

myogen is a natural test booster is it not? if so how why would you need to have your test levels stable when you can increase test levels by using myogen? youre telling him to spend money on pct in order to take myogen which makes no sense what so ever

True. it would be a waste of money to spend on the PCT. Dont listen to me i got this one wrong shmidty. Italians got this one right.

But if we didint have MyoGen, a PCT would be a good idea

**Schmidty** · 12-09-2006, 02:45 PM

bump

**K.Biz** · 12-10-2006, 03:12 PM

Go for it bro. the only thing that might be a lil different for you is, seing sides a lil stronger then others, like acne and libido. because your younger. other that that, I would say its ok for you to use. some might think differently though

**l2elapse** · 12-10-2006, 04:41 PM

hes natural, pct is not needed

**Schmidty** · 12-11-2006, 07:02 PM

I think I am ging to try it

**BlackWidow** · 12-12-2006, 12:07 PM

No man.. Don't try a PCT ... You donnot know where the defect is... Those helped with PCT are people with proplem in hupothalamic pitutary axis ...

It may be a proplem in the stimulant ( axis ) or the target ( Testis ) or even the suprarenal gland....

GO CHECK A DOCTOR and do all blood work needed. That's my advice as a doctor.
Don't miss with your nutts man while less than 25 or even 30.
Good luck

**Schmidty** · 12-12-2006, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by BlackWidow

No man.. Don't try a PCT ... You donnot know where the defect is... Those helped with PCT are people with proplem in hupothalamic pitutary axis ...

It may be a proplem in the stimulant ( axis ) or the target ( Testis ) or even the suprarenal gland....

GO CHECK A DOCTOR and do all blood work needed. That's my advice as a doctor.
Don't miss with your nutts man while less than 25 or even 30.
Good luck

I had blood work dona. I am not sure were the problem is though. Im just gona do the Myogenx

**cfiler** · 12-12-2006, 06:38 PM

I don't see a problem running it.

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 12-12-2006, 07:32 PM

if i was 19 that would be the closest thing to an "anabolic " that id take.

also, go to anthony roberts website and read his articles about using clomid and hcg for thyroid repair. its really interesting.

if i were you id try the clomid repair method asap just beacuse its so available and no shots needed.

it might be nice to get your thyroid in order b4 taking your testosterone tp supraphysiologic amounts. youll also probably benefit more from heightent test if thyroid is up to par.
Actually on second thought, maybe you wanna run myogenix first and see if that helps your thyroid out any. it may be possible that if if the testosterone stimulation takes place by similar avenues that clomid and hcg do, that myogenix may have another application beyond stimulation of testosterone.

im sure anthony would be stoked about that!

**Schmidty** · 12-12-2006, 08:31 PM

how do i get to his web site

**BlackWidow** · 12-13-2006, 06:30 AM

Schmidty, what do you mean not knowing where the proplem is ????

It's quite simple... There's Hypothalamus secreting GNRH stimulating the pitutary to secrete Gonadotropins which are LH and FSH stimulating your nuts to secrete Testosterone .. This is the AXIS ... OK ??

There's low test : GN and the GNRH will be raised to increase it... If so, the proplem is testicular in origin...

There's low test and low GN : there will be raised GNRH from the hypothalamus to stimulate the pitutary and subsequently the testicles... If so, the proplem is pitutary in origin...

There's low test , low GN and low GNRH : the proplem is hypothalamic in origin...

Check your blood work according to these basis.

Good luck!

**notorious_mem** · 12-13-2006, 10:08 AM

widow arent you a doctor or something?

**BlackWidow** · 12-13-2006, 11:16 AM

yes Notorious, I am a dr.

**Schmidty** · 12-13-2006, 11:26 AM

they never told me were the problem was. I gota get more blood work done soon anyway ill check then

**notorious_mem** · 12-13-2006, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by BlackWidow

yes Notorious, I am a dr.

i thought i read that somewhere.

**l2elapse** · 12-13-2006, 06:08 PM

what kind of doctor?

**BlackWidow** · 12-13-2006, 10:19 PM

General practitioner butin like damn 3 years I will be a gynecologist ( after completing my master's degree ).

**CoreyTampa09** · 12-14-2006, 01:00 AM

Yah I got low test...not pituatary related as I had an MRI on my brain and all of that. Endo actually isnt sure whats causing it...but im on shots biweekly at 200mg. I was considering taking this as well. Just going to wait a few months, dont wanna hear this being superdrol or something where we find out months later it hurts us more than it helps.