M1t

[Manpretty]

im looking in to a new M1T that has an added ~150 andro component in it to combat the lethargic sides.......also in the profile of mythtest it say it would be good to add another strong angrogenic compound for a synergistic effect.....what would be good for this? its say 4ad but i wondering what you guys think of a dbol or ??????.....

i thought dbol acted through different mechanisms than M1T....but was told recently that in fact M1T is derived from Dbol....

suggestions on compounds that would work well with m1t would be awesome
ive used M1 before and said i wouldnt do it again but im having second thoughts now

manpretty

[Schmidty]

I would like to know this as much as you. BUMP

[UpstateTank]

superdrol=a steroid?
read posts 18, 21 & 27

this supplement you speak of...did it just come out? cause chances are if it did its not the same as the M1T that was banned, nor would the 4ad be the same as the banned form

[Manpretty]

superdrol=a steroid?
read posts 18, 21 & 27

this supplement you speak of...did it just come out? cause chances are if it did its not the same as the M1T that was banned, nor would the 4ad be the same as the banned form

yeah it is the bann version of M1T.... well......it isnt legal anyhow.......the best way i can describe it to you with out knowing the composition exactly is that it your regular M1T with an adding andro chain.....does this make sence? a friend of mine is using it and that is how he described it to me.

[Manpretty]

this is from another thread

Testosterone + double bold (1st position) = boldenone .

Boldenone + 5alpha reduction = di-hydro-boldenone. (1-testosterone)

Di-hydro-boldenone + 17alpha alkylation = M1T.

so this M1T BajanBastard speaks of is the same as

Click Drug Name to View Profile: Methyltestosterone

[Manpretty]

OR
Methyl-1-Testosterone (aka M1T)

Methyl 1-testosterone, or 17aa-1-testosterone, is the methylated version of the steroid 1-testosterone. This structural modification makes steroids much more orally bioavailable by inhibiting breakdown in the liver. Although it has only been widely available for a short period of time, feedback on this compound indicates that it may be the most effective legal prohormone/steroid product on the market regardless of delivery method, and it is hands down the most effective oral product. On the other hand, most users report a wealth of side effects, and this compound is not to be taken lightly. It does not have a long history of use or a well-established safety profile, and proper precautions should be taken.

The profile of methyl 1-test is similar to that of 1-test – it does not convert to estrogen, and it is highly anabolic and moderately androgenic (less than 1-test). When compared to orally administered methyltestosterone , methyl 1-test is 910-1600% as anabolic and 100-220% as androgenic.

The side effects reported by users of methyl 1-test are many and individual reactions vary considerably. The most commonly reported side effect is lethargy, which can range from mild to severe. Other common side effects include increased blood pressure, bloating, joint pains, cramps, mild headaches, insomnia, aggressiveness, and irritability. Many users also find that methyl 1-test decreases appetite, which can be harmful or beneficial depending on one's goals. These side effects can be reduced by lowering dosage or taking smaller doses more frequently. Combining it with another androgen (such as 4-AD) may also help, but feedback on this is limited.

Another concern with methyl 1-test (and methylated steroids in general) is hepatotoxicity. Although this tends to be exaggerated, it is still prudent to take certain precautions. First and foremost, other substances that are toxic to the liver (such as alcohol) should be avoided to avoid placing extra stress on the liver. If methyl 1-test is stacked, it would be best to stack it with something other than an oral steroid/prohormone, such as a transdermal. Milk thistle, alpha lipoic acid, and N-acetyl-cysteine are commonly recommended to help protect the liver. For further information on 17aa steroids and hepatotoxicity, see the following article:

Hepatotoxicity: Fact or Fiction, by Roy Harper

When taking methyl 1-test, it is best to start out with at least a week at a dose of 5-10 mg to see how one reacts. Many users find this range to be effective, while others feel the ideal amount is 20-40 mg. It comes down to the experience, goals, and individual reaction. Many find a lower dose to be just as effective as a higher one, but with less side effects. With a compound such as this, it is generally best to err on the side of caution, especially for those that are less experienced with steroids. Most seem to find their ideal dose to be in the 10-30 mg range. Cycle length should be kept short, in the range of 1-4 weeks. Finally, it is especially important to take adequate time off after each cycle with this substance to allow the body to recover.

[Manpretty]

im sorry for being stupid......but what is the difference between these 2?

[notorious_mem]

yeah it is the bann version of M1T.... well......it isnt legal anyhow.......the best way i can describe it to you with out knowing the composition exactly is that it your regular M1T with an adding andro chain.....does this make sence? a friend of mine is using it and that is how he described it to me.

is it on the market (for sale online)or is someone homebrewing?

[Manpretty]

i would assume its on the market but dont know because its through my domestic source.....id find out the company name for you but i wouldnt be able to post the name anyhow

[BajanBastard]

im sorry for being stupid......but what is the difference between these 2?

MT (methyl-testosterone ) is 17aa testosterone.

[Manpretty]

MT (methyl-testosterone) is 17aa testosterone.

from those profiles which i got from one of gssxr's posts it says that both M1T and methyl-testosterone are a 17aa however M1T seems to be FAR more potent than MT. do you know why?

ok maybe if you have time you could spell it out so a kid could understand it......im being thick skulled tonight......because i thought that the idea of a prohormone was that the body altered the compostion to create a steroid like effect and methylalted steroids survived the first pass through the liver so that the testosterone could flow through the body until it met the liver again..........

[Manpretty]

1-test). Combining it with another androgen (such as 4-AD) may also help, but feedback on this is limited.

any other ideas.....im still wondering if dbol would have a synergistic effect with m1t

[Teegunn]

1-test is a lot stronger than test on it's own.

The methylization is used to pass through the liver into the bloodstream.

[UpstateTank]

any other ideas.....im still wondering if dbol would have a synergistic effect with m1t

dont know if its synergistic or not, but stacking those 2 toxic oral roids would be a stupid move

[matt50]

dont know if its synergistic or not, but stacking those 2 toxic oral roids would be a stupid move

never stack 2 orals....just asking for trouble

[Manpretty]

ok well im running two oral right now ......not too bad actually.....liver issus are over rated......ps ive had my blood test done and everything is slightly elevated but thats not unexpected....in acceptable ranges tho....and im just finishing week 9 i think

[UpstateTank]

ok well im running two oral right now ......not too bad actually.....liver issus are over rated......ps ive had my blood test done and everything is slightly elevated but thats not unexpected....in acceptable ranges tho....and im just finishing week 9 i think

does more than screw with your liver values

[UpstateTank]

ok well im running two oral right now ......not too bad actually.....liver issus are over rated......ps ive had my blood test done and everything is slightly elevated but thats not unexpected....in acceptable ranges tho....and im just finishing week 9 i think

9 weeks of orals?
glad to see you did your research

[l2elapse]

yeah 9 weeks is way too long

[Manpretty]

have you guys ever run an oral only cycle for 9 weeks?
didnt think so.......i talked to hellmask about this exact topic and he has actually run orals for 9weeks and based on his experience, my goals and my research thats what i decided.

please refrain from spreading rumors....and parroting other uneducated members of this board...

ps what else does it "screw with"? besides sides that you would see with injects anyway?

[UpstateTank]

have you guys ever run an oral only cycle for 9 weeks?
didnt think so.......i talked to hellmask about this exact topic and he has actually run orals for 9weeks and based on his experience, my goals and my research thats what i decided.

please refrain from spreading rumors....and parroting other uneducated members of this board...

ps what else does it "screw with"? besides sides that you would see with injects anyway?

hell f'in no! call me conservative when it comes to my approach on orals, but thats more than ive ever seen reccomended, and more than double what I have run myself. I mean sure you may be "fine" now, but who the heck knows what the long term effects could be...thats why im so conservative.

I also wouldnt label taking a conservative approach and being concerned w/ the health of other members parroting...I wouldnt ever recommend taking something for longer than the "standard" timeframe.

And lastly, you make a good point in what else it screws w/ (i.e. blood pressure, cholesterol etc) and how injectables can have the same effects, but again it comes down to running it for more than the "standard" time and what those possible long term side effects could be.

If your bloodwork is coming back OK then I guess I'm proven wrong.