When/What Supps to take (13 steps)

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 01-05-2007, 10:49 AM

I came across this supplement plan that will "yield for maximum muscle growth". The 2 main things are, what to take, and when to take it.

Step 1 (Before breakfast...about 30 min. before you eat)
-5g BCAA
-5g Arginine
-5g Glutamine Peptides
**Taking them on an empty stomach as soon as you wake is a great way to help your body go from being catabolic from sleeping to being anabolic as soon as possible.**

Step 2 (With breakfast)
-1 multivitamin
-1000mg vitamin c
-400 IU vitamin e
-2g fish oil
-100 mg 20-beta-ecdysterone(**turns on protein synthesis, so its good to take throughout day with protein**)

Step 3 (shortly after breakfast....an hour after)
-1.5g acetyl-L-carnitine

Step 4 (lunch)
-100mg 20-beta-ecdysterone

Step 5 (1-2 hours pre workout)
-400mg caffeine anhydrous

Step 6 (1 hour pre workout)
-500mg tribulus terrestris (only on workout days)
-1.5g acetyl-L-carnitine

Step 7 (30 min pre workout)
-5g arginine
-5g glutamine peptides
-5g BCAA

Step 8 (Immediately pre workout...a shake)
-20g whey protein isolate
-40g simple carbs
-5g creatine

Step 9 (immediately post workout)
-5g glutamine peptides
-5g BCAA

Step 10 (30 min. post workout)
-50g whey protein
-100g simple carbs
-5g creatine
-100mg 20-beta-ecdysterone

Step 11 (dinner)
-1 multivitamin
-1000mg vitamin c
-3g fish oil
-100mg 20-beta-ecdysterone

Step 12 (30-60 min. before bed)
-1 dose of ZMA

Step 13 (immediately before bed)
-5g arginine
-5g glutamine peptides
**both arginine and glutamine increase the release of growth hormone . taking them before bed helps to maximize this anabolic hormones levels during the time it peaks--when you are asleep.**

There are other descriptions for all the steps, but I didnt feel like typing them all out. Just google search and you can find out what they do, if you dont know already, and it all basically makes sense.

I got this from Muscle and Body magizine (Jan. 07)

**MFT81** · 01-05-2007, 11:07 AM

what a pain in the ass.

Ive been off supps for about 6months Im just as strong, same weight and even a tad more cut. Most of all alot less broke

**matt50** · 01-05-2007, 11:16 AM

yea thats a lot of supps...too rich for my blood

**moush** · 01-05-2007, 04:14 PM

im with bigsexy those are basically the supplements I take except for the 20-beta-ecdysterone...I also take Waxy Maize Starch on high carb days. you need BCAA, glutamine, arginine, zma, protein, creatine...these are the foundations to a regimented routine and of course a clean diet.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 01-06-2007, 12:41 AM

Well Im not saying I agree or disagree with it. But by the looks of those supps and the time to take them, and the reason they give. It all seems pretty legit and unbullshitish.

It looks like a really good outline for people that dont have their supps in order and for people that may need to help in their current rountine.

I might go ahead and buy them and see how it works for awhile.

Does anyone know where you can get beta-ecdysterone?

**dhriscerr** · 01-06-2007, 01:22 AM

I take fish oils, multi's and BCAA's im a college student so thats already more than I can afford, that schedual would run you like 200 bucks a month

SVTMuscle* · 01-06-2007, 08:20 AM

Yeah that is def about $200 a month in supplements alone! With a ridiculous schedule

**UpstateTank** · 01-06-2007, 09:25 AM

quit reading muscle and fitness bigsexy!!!!

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 01-06-2007, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by UpstateTank

quit reading muscle and fitness bigsexy!!!!

Ill quit reading it as soon as you stop gaining muscle.

lol its funny cuz I never ordered it, it just came in my mail one day, you see, its a sign from god that I must read it....it was meant to be.

Ive been waiting for my issue of Muscle & UpstateTank magazine, but it hasnt came yet....im sad....

**UpstateTank** · 01-06-2007, 01:07 PM

LOL

hopefully one day!

**Fordfan01** · 01-06-2007, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by dhriscerr

I take fish oils, multi's and BCAA's im a college student so thats already more than I can afford, that schedual would run you like 200 bucks a month

amen brother

SVTMuscle* · 01-06-2007, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

Ill quit reading it as soon as you stop gaining muscle.

lol its funny cuz I never ordered it, it just came in my mail one day, you see, its a sign from god that I must read it....it was meant to be.

Ive been waiting for my issue of Muscle & UpstateTank magazine, but it hasnt came yet....im sad....

i got a lifetime subscription!

**UpstateTank** · 01-06-2007, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by SVTMuscle

i got a lifetime subscription!

lol

howd u get one?
i dont even have one

SVTMuscle* · 01-06-2007, 02:47 PM

Matrix my friend.
The Matrix.

**MFT81** · 01-06-2007, 03:00 PM

Damn upstate you changed your avy, back looks great!

**UpstateTank** · 01-06-2007, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by SVTMuscle

Matrix my friend.
The Matrix.

lol

Originally Posted by MFT81

Damn upstate you changed your avy, back looks great!

thanks bro!

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 01-06-2007, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by SVTMuscle

Matrix my friend.
The Matrix.

lol
damn, my Jan. issue hasn't came. Upstate did you happen to take the blue pill this time? What did I tell you about taking pills from a strange black guy you just met? huh? Now Neo is off with my issue whacking it to your sexy back and supplement plan....shit