K.Biz SD Log

[K.Biz]

Ok here we go. first cycle ever. Checking in with everyone to make sure i got everything correct.. i will begin next week on the 15th and i need to order everything today, so lets make sure i got everything correct.

I pretty much just built my PCT and support supps from other threads with a lot of reading. Id lake to thank "Upstates" log. there was a lot of filtering out a lot of chatter but a lot of good info so thanks everyone for posting some great info

Ok so break it down guys let me know what i should add and anything i shoudl get rid of or change.

oh yeah stats:
5'7
165
Training for about 2 years
about 9 months hardcore


SD - 3 Week Cycle
01/15/07 - 02/5/07

Week 1 - 10
Week 2 - 20
Week 3 - 20 ( Will bump it up to 30 if sides are minimal)

Week Before:
Milk thistle: 400mg ed
Hawthorne berry: 400mg ED


During cycle
GNC Mega Men sport Multi-Vitamin
2000mg milk thistle ED *Edit
1500mg hawthorn berry ED
1200mg red yeast rice ED
15g fish oil ED
1500mg flush free niacin ED


PCT: 4 Weeks
GNC MegaMen sport Multi-Vitamin
Nolva: 40/20/20/20
2000mg milk thistle ED *Edit
1500mg hawthorn berry ED
1200mg red yeast rice ED
15g fish oil ED
1500mg flush free niacin ED
No-Shotgun(Pre-workout)


Im off to the gym, ill be back in about in a lil over an hour. thanks guys

[UpstateTank]

good luck bro

[number twelve]

why didnt any1 jump on this guy for using nolva instead of clomid in his pct? i thought it was a mistake to use nolva for a sd pct??
i was gonna use nolva for my own sd pct but im thinking otherwise due to the opinions on this board.

[UpstateTank]

i gotta read better...good catch twelve

are you prone to gyno k.biz?

[K.Biz]

are you prone to gyno k.biz?

I dunno, how would i no if im prone to gyno if this is my first cycle. my chest now is pretty solid, im all natural up to this point.
i never got the puffy niple thing through puberty like my friends did... so i dunno. give me some ideas.

[K.Biz]

also insted of 800mg a day on the thistle during my cycle, i think im going to step it up to 1000mg a day and into my 3rd week 1500mg. what do u think about this? and for my pct ill keep it @ the 1000mg

[UpstateTank]

also insted of 800mg a day on the thistle during my cycle, i think im going to step it up to 1000mg a day and into my 3rd week 1500mg. what do u think about this? and for my pct ill keep it @ the 1000mg

Id bump it up even higher than that...milk thistle is dirt cheap, and imo an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure...Try something more along 2000mg/day

Also no idea to tell if you're prone to gyno or not...If you can, purchase clomid instead

[K.Biz]

Try something more along 2000mg/dayinstead

Should i keep it at that level the whole cycle and pct?

[UpstateTank]

Should i keep it at that level the whole cycle and pct?

Def during the entire cycle, and for at least the first 2 weeks of pct

I began to taper mine down during my 3rd week of pct (mainly b/c I was running out of it), but it wouldnt hurt to run it for those levels for the entire duration

[K.Biz]

k cool thanks. also, im ordering everything today. actully right now, so... anyone who knows cheaper places to order support sups and pct supplies and the SD let me know, thanks

[K.Biz]

also should all my support sups be taken in full in the morning when i wake up? or should i spread them out throughout the day?

[UpstateTank]

also should all my support sups be taken in full in the morning when i wake up? or should i spread them out throughout the day?

split the doses am and pm

[K.Biz]

split the doses am and pm

thanks, only shitty thing is i cant find any SD thats less then 100 bucks for some reason. whats the deal? everywhere i look thats some what cheap is sold out. am i going to have to end up payin that much? perhaps a PM to where i can find somthin cheap. thanks guys

[UpstateTank]

thanks, only shitty thing is i cant find any SD thats less then 100 bucks for some reason. whats the deal? everywhere i look thats some what cheap is sold out. am i going to have to end up payin that much? perhaps a PM to where i can find somthin cheap. thanks guys

thats cause its bannnned

[K.Biz]

i no i found that out a lil while ago.. cool, but its all good, i found the other stuff, thanks though.

[number twelve]

thanks, only shitty thing is i cant find any SD thats less then 100 bucks for some reason. whats the deal? everywhere i look thats some what cheap is sold out. am i going to have to end up payin that much? perhaps a PM to where i can find somthin cheap. thanks guys

there are very similar products still on the market that can be had for about 30 bucks. oxodrol 12 from IDS being one.

[K.Biz]

yeah i went with the Methyl-Drol XT.

[matt50]

good luck, i did a methyl masterdrol cycle a few months back....the positives were great but the sides sucked

[K.Biz]

good luck, i did a methyl masterdrol cycle a few months back....the positives were great but the sides sucked

Yea i herd the sides are pretty shitty. im pretty much ready for anything, only thing im worried about is acne. its taken me so long to get it under control, and now im gonna screw it all up again

[matt50]

Yea i herd the sides are pretty shitty. im pretty much ready for anything, only thing im worried about is acne. its taken me so long to get it under control, and now im gonna screw it all up again

i used to be prone to acne as well....then i took the SD had acne come back and even when the sd was thru i still was getting it and still getting it to this day....PITA!!!! it seems to be finally clearing up 2 months after the PCT is thru

[K.Biz]

ok so i got everything, well i ordered everything, i have pretty much all my support supps, got the fish oil, milk thistle, my flush free niacin but i cant seem to find hawthorn berry or the red yeast rice. any ideas where i can buy this or order it from. or mabye im looking for the wrong thing. is it labeled as somthing different???

[K.Biz]

bump

[K.Biz]

1 more thing. god damnit to many questions. wanna make sure everythings perfect before i start this cycle. so pumped but nervous im gonna screw somthing up haha. anyway i got milk thistle but its not extract its in pill form but it says its "milk thistle (silybum marianum) seed" it says it has lipids and some protiens in it that reg milk thistle doesnt. wanna make sure this is good though.

[notorious_mem]

go to wal mart for your hawthorne n red yeast rice.ur milk thistle is also fine.

[K.Biz]

go to wal mart for your hawthorne n red yeast rice.ur milk thistle is also fine.

thanks bro, u have been a big help to me the last few days, i aprreciate it

[UpstateTank]

go to wal mart for your hawthorne n red yeast rice.ur milk thistle is also fine.

i have taught you well young grasshopper

good luck k.biz!

[K.Biz]

what do u guys think about including myogenX in my PCT?

[notorious_mem]

what do u guys think about including myogenX in my PCT?

excelent idea

[K.Biz]

what would i dose the myogenx for my pct?

[NightTrain]

good luck k.biz, you should like the results of the SD, im in my thrid week and i love it

[notorious_mem]

what would i dose the myogenx for my pct?

most guys r between 3 - 6 pills a day.

[K.Biz]

good luck k.biz, you should like the results of the SD, im in my thrid week and i love it

thanks bro, starting tomo, im pumped

most guys r between 3 - 6 pills a day.

i think ill start at 4 a day , taking 2 in the morning and 2 mid afternoon. if i feel like i need to step it up, ill bring it up to 6.

[K.Biz]

when clomid effects the vision... is it very bad? because i already have glasses, dont need more problems

[number twelve]

when clomid effects the vision... is it very bad? because i already have glasses, dont need more problems

i have read on the pct forum that your vision starts to get effected when you take over 100mg/day.

im not sure on that tho so dont me, its just what i read!

[notorious_mem]

when clomid effects the vision... is it very bad? because i already have glasses, dont need more problems

never affected mine at all.

[K.Biz]

thanks boys, popped my first pill this morning @ 9am and im popping my second one right now and about to hit the gym in about 35min... so physced. not feeling of anything yet.

[K.Biz]

did my leg day today, didint do a log, im gonna start my log tomo on my chest/tri day. worked out really well today, like really really good. could just be placebo effect. but hey if it makes me lift better thats all that counts.

oh yeah also heres what my workout looks like.

day 1 - chest/tri
day 2 - back/bis
day 3 - off
day 4 - shoulders
day 5 - legs

skipped my leg day last week, cause i didint have time so i did them today.
might actully do a nice 30min ab workout on my off day, not sure yet though

[notorious_mem]

did my leg day today, didint do a log, im gonna start my log tomo on my chest/tri day. worked out really well today, like really really good. could just be placebo effect. but hey if it makes me lift better thats all that counts.

oh yeah also heres what my workout looks like.

day 1 - chest/tri
day 2 - back/bis
day 3 - off
day 4 - shoulders
day 5 - legs

skipped my leg day last week, cause i didint have time so i did them today.
might actully do a nice 30min ab workout on my off day, not sure yet though

just wait till thur when ur pumps start kicking in.

[K.Biz]

just wait till thur when ur pumps start kicking in.

Cant wait!

and another question - since 1ml = 35mg of lions clomid how woudl i make 40 mgs out of this, where woudl i pull the oral syringe for the extra 5mg?

[notorious_mem]

Cant wait!

and another question - since 1ml = 35mg of lions clomid how woudl i make 40 mgs out of this, where woudl i pull the oral syringe for the extra 5mg?

does it say 50mg/ml 60ml if so it saying per ml theres 50mg so 50mg * 60ml = 3000mg per bottle.(my bottle reads 50mg/ml urs might b 35mg/ml