Ephedrine and NO?

**PBure96** · 03-20-2007, 09:17 AM

Still sort of new here. Finally been putting on weight the last few months using CytoGainer and NO Shotgun. I want to keep building muscle but loose the slight bit of fat that ive put on. I have a clean diet and just wondering if doing an ECA stack while on NO Shotgun and the gainer will be counter productive or harmful to me?

**UpstateTank** · 03-20-2007, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by PBure96

Still sort of new here. Finally been putting on weight the last few months using CytoGainer and NO Shotgun. I want to keep building muscle but loose the slight bit of fat that ive put on. I have a clean diet and just wondering if doing an ECA stack while on NO Shotgun and the gainer will be counter productive or harmful to me?

cardio bro!

**MFT81** · 03-20-2007, 10:20 AM

counter productive, the most you could do is maintain your bf% (Unless your just totally fat) and gain size

Plus stims (caff. and ephid) are vasoconstrictors which does the opposite of shotgun hence you'd take one step forward and one step back.

Incorportate cardio into your plan mod. save the ECA for another time and focus on gaining bulk.

**PBure96** · 03-20-2007, 10:45 AM

Ok thanks man. Glad i waited on ordering it.

**Schmidty** · 03-20-2007, 10:51 AM

dont mix the ephedrine with any NOstimulater. its bad for ur heart.

**shredzs** · 03-20-2007, 12:23 PM

what about clen and NO

**gr8gear** · 03-23-2007, 10:21 AM

same results.........counter productive. Make sure ur diet is clean and incorporate some low-intensity cardio (20-30 minutes 2-3X A Week). Save the stims for cutting. THEORETICALLY......you should lose some fat while maintaing muscle. Just my $.02