Ids Mass Tabs

[roodogg]

just received my mass tabs. I am not sure when i am going to start. I am going to wait for chuck to finish his log first. I will be running the following:

Animal Paks 1 packs daily
Perque Triple EFA Guard 4 daily
Flax oil 2 tablespoons daily
AE perfect cycle (n-Acetyl-Cysteine 2000mg, Milk thistle 1200mg, ALA 400mg)
coq10 300mg
hawthorne berry 1500mgs (do not have yet)
IDS MASS TABS 1 ed
probiotics
no-xplode (if necessary for energy and focus)
sugar free red bull

daily diet includes 3 labrada lean body's
1.5 gallons of water
3500calories
cream of rice
oats
brown rice
rice cakes
sweet potato
egg whites
chicken
lean beef
etc.

pct
nolva/aromasin /myogenx/cellmass vitargo cgl

I am starting support supplements today and will probably start mass tabs on monday

[UpstateTank]

support supps and pct look good


but clean that diet up b4 you start...aka no labrada lean bodys

[Shane35aa]

From what I read this stuff is somewhat like Superdrol. You might want to add some Taurine and be sure to get plenty of potassium ( banannas). You might also want to take the supps a week before you start to frontload them.
Also might want to bump up the milk thistle some. Good luck, really interested in this stuff. Would be interested in seeing a log.

[roodogg]

support supps and pct look good


but clean that diet up b4 you start...aka no labrada lean bodys

my nutritionist is very well known around the industry and he has no problem with 3 shakes a day and thanks for the reply

[roodogg]

From what I read this stuff is somewhat like Superdrol. You might want to add some Taurine and be sure to get plenty of potassium ( banannas). You might also want to take the supps a week before you start to frontload them.
Also might want to bump up the milk thistle some. Good luck, really interested in this stuff. Would be interested in seeing a log.

I was thinking about milk thistle around 1000-2000mg's a day but I am waiting to talk to my nutritionist

Taurine is a definate possibility and bananas give me digestive problems so additional supplementation will be a thought

I will start a log 2 weeks after the beginning of support supplementation

[UpstateTank]

ooo i FORGOT!


add in creatine during pct to help keep as much of yer gains as possible

[roodogg]

i will remain on cellmass or vitargo during pct i like vitargo as part of my post workout meal

[UpstateTank]

i will remain on cellmass or vitargo during pct i like vitargo as part of my post workout meal

i would even consider dropping the creatine during your cycle....mass tabs are strong enough by themself...plus you'll save $$$$$$$$$$$

[roodogg]

that is probably a good idea and i will be able to judge the effectiveness of the tabs a little better

[GrowingMuscle]

I would drop the creatine during cycle, your liver is already going through enough and you don't need another diuretic.

I would up the milk thistle to 3000mg a day, the stuff is cheap.

[roodogg]

sounds like a plan

[roodogg]

Is it recommended to hav l-dex on hand during sdrol or m1t cycle? It is my understanding that mass tabs are a little of both

[UpstateTank]

Is it recommended to hav l-dex on hand during sdrol or m1t cycle? It is my understanding that mass tabs are a little of both

both m1t and SD cannot aromatize so the only time gyno should b a concern is during pct

but again being a cross of both and seeing how chemicals act COMPLETELY different when altered who the hell knows if this stuff aromatizes (if i had to guess i would say no)

[roodogg]

I have not been able to find a site where someone has completed a cycle of the mass tabs and most questions are people trying to figure out exactly what they are so you are right Who the hell knows?

[roodogg]

I just edited my original post of support supps and my tabs and log will begin monday

[roodogg]

well I coudn't wait I took my support supps and my mass tab today and I will be posting a before pic and starting a log i am 5'9"" 185lbs and 13%bf I was weighed and had bf calculated yesterday so I know my #s are accurate. i am currently not doing any cardio and I will not start cardio for another month. i might play b-ball once a week for and hour or so! I am not looking for record lifts because i set them all last year while on test i am simply looking to gain back what I lost from being sick and stressed out for the last 6 months which is about 10lbs of lean mass

[roodogg]

So I started everything on thursday and I did not sleep well that night. I woke up Friday and I felt like crap. I am not sure if it is allergies or the tabs. Here is what I got going on:

Probiotics 4 ed
Animal Pak 1 pak daily
perque Triple efa guard 4 ed
anabolic xtreme perfect cycle 4 ed
ester c 3g's ed
hawthorn berry 1.53g ed
coq10 200mg ed
ryr 600mg ed
flax 2tbsp ed
masstab 1 ed

I will train all week whether I feel bad or not and hopefully the feeling will pass

[roodogg]

OK I felt bad but I went and did chest today. The weights felt lighter, but there was a lack of energy

Incline Barbell
135 x 12
185 x 10
205 x 10
225 x 10

Flat Dumbell Press
75 x 10
95 x 10
105 x 8
110 x 8

Hammer Strength Iso Wide Decline
180 x 12
230 x 10
270 x 8
320 x 6

Fly Machine
110 x 12
130 x 12

[roodogg]

Feel pretty good today I am going to space my support supps out today instead of taking the majority of them in the a.m. I think the ester c has helped out a bit

[roodogg]

I hit back today I felt pretty good strength was OK

wide overhand pulldown
110 x 12
130 x 10

overhand pullups
bw x 12
bw x 10
bw x 10

Hammer Strength low row
45 each side x 12
70 each side x 10
90 each side x 8
115 each side x 6

Hammer stength seated row
100 x 10
130 x 8
150 x 8

Hammer strength shrug
90 each side x 12
135 each side 10
180 each side 6

dumbell shrug
100's x 10
100's x 8

bent over rear laterals
25 x 10
20 x 10
superset
20 x 10
10 x 10

back extension

25lb plate x 12
35lb plate x 10
35lb plate x 10
drop set bw x 8

[roodogg]

i am definately feeling fuller my buddy who started the same day I did said he is a little nervous because the tabs are working so well for him very fast. He was Mr. NJ 1995 so he has experience. He was really surprised with the results so far for not lifting that hard he feels the gains and I agree

[roodogg]

I hit arms last night and felt strong

Barbell curls
70 x 12
90 x 10
100 x 8
110 x 5

skull crushers
80 x 10
90 x 8
100 x 6

preacher curl machine
120 x 10
130 x 8
150 x 6

seated tricep press
270 x 10 superset with overhead tri ext 50 x 10
280 x 8 " "
290 x 6

dumbell curls
35 x 8
40 x 8
45 x 6

rope pressdown
50 x 8
80 x 8
100 x 6

hammer ezcurls
60 x 12
60 x 10

forearm reverse curls

100 x 10
100 x 10
100 x 8

[roodogg]

I had a tough time getting up this morning, but I was up late doing type 2 cardio. I don't think I am noticing side effects at this point. I will be checking Bp soon

[Shane35aa]

Oh well no better reason to be up late.

[roodogg]

yeah! my wife was away for 3 weeks so I had to make up some time

[roodogg]

she did say that I looked bigger. She really noticed a change in my traps and she said my face leaned out. i def feel a change after week 1

[rockinred]

roodog, be ready to be impressed... by week 4 your numbers will be through the roof... I carried a lot of bloat on those... didn't have some of the sides with headache and laziness like m1t made me... get a pct ready though cause it shut me down..

[rockinred]

my bad on pct...notice you have it all set up... you should be happy..the myogenx helped me keep most of the gains.

[roodogg]

hit shoulders on friday

dumbell press
60 x 10
70 x 10
80 x 8
90 x 5 first time trying to press 90lb bells....not so easy

side lat raises
25 x 10
30 x 10
35 x 8 drop 20 x 8

front raises
25 lb plate x 10
35 lb plate x 10
45 lb plate x 10
45 lb plate x 10

bent over dumbell laterals
25 x 10
30 x 8
20 x 10

super set upright rows 60 lb ez curl with 45 lb plate in each hand shrugs 2 sets to failure

[roodogg]

I will hit legs on monday to complete my first week of training on mass tabs. No noticeable sides so far. The first couple of days my stomach was going nuts, but I am fine now I felt lethargic on friday and saturday morning. i am getting plenty of type 2 cardio and I feel ok so far. definately not experiencing the overall sense of well being that one would have on test, but i am only at the beginning of week 2

[roodogg]

I am up 4 lbs on the scale after week 1 I feel that i am leaner than when I started, but today i feel a little bloat. I did chest today to get back to my original training schedule.

Incline Barbell
135 x 10
185 x 8
225 x 8
245 x 8 up 20 lbs from last week

Flat dumbell press
90 x 10
100 x 8
110 x 8
120 x 8 up 20 lbs

hammer iso wide decline

270 x 10
360 x 8
360 x 6 up 40lbs + 2 reps

machine fly
110 x 10
130 x 10
150 x 10 up 20 lbs

decline fly
50 lb bells x 12

[roodogg]

i upped the ester c a bit because i felt lazy all weekend hard to get out of bed dull headache today but not that bad

[number twelve]

bro i didnt even know this log existed. lookin good so far

[roodogg]

Thanks! yeah I know I feel like I'm talking to myself. I don't think i can re title the thread to add the word log. This is my first go around and the strength is pretty good. You don't get that all around sense of well being, but the weights just move easier when training. I hope it will keep going

[roodogg]

tuesday was back day

Lifestyle pulldown machine
130 x 12
150 x 10
170 x 8
190 x 6

Hammer high row
1.25 plates each side x 12
2 plates each side x 10
2.25 plates each side 6

t-bar row
2 plates x 10
3 plates x 8
4 plates x 5

seated row
160 x 8

back extensions
35lb plate x 12
45lb plate x 10
45lb plate x 10

palms facing pulldown
190 x 6

seated row machine
150 x 8
180 x 5

[roodogg]

I'm not exactly sure how I feel. I felt a change in the first week, but I feel like I stalled out. The strength is good, but I don't feel the fullness that I felt the first 7-10 days

[roodogg]

well I have had a stressful week at work and it has thrown off my eating schedule. I have been scrambling to get my meals in and some of them had to be broken into parts. My week has had an impact on eating, training and sleeping. I hit shoulders today and I was a bit disappointed.

Seated Military press
135 x 12
185 x 8
205 x 3 not good

seated dumbell press
80 x 6 not good

side lateral raises

25 x 10
30 x 10
35 x 8 drop set 20 x 8
no improvement

front raises
25 lb plate x 10
35 lb plate x 10
45 lb plate x 10
one less set than last week

bent over dumbell laterals
25 x 10
35 x 8
ss
25 x 8

barbell shrug
165 x 10
215 x 8
265 x 6

dumbell shrug
105's x 10

ss upright rows 60lb ez curl x10 with 45lb plate in each hand shrugs x 25

My food intake had an impact on my performance I also did not consume half the amount of water that I normally do plus i had 2 servings of noxplode and a sugar free redbull throughout the day. I am curious if stims or NO could have a neg effect on the mass tabs. Not Sure if that is possible./ I feel bloated and don't look as good as I did last week. This is a same because I was really starting to lean up nice

[roodogg]

hit arms on Friday and felt strong. I was able to do weights that I have not been able to handle since being on and that felt good

tricep pressdown
70 x 10
90 x 10
100 x 8
110 x 6

ez bar curl

70 x 10
90 x 10
100 x 8
110 x 8
115 x 8

skull crushers
90 x 10
100 x 10
110 x 8

preacher machine
120 x 10
150 x 10
200 x 6 (machine racks out at 200)

seated tricep press
270 x 10
280 x 10
290 x 8 (machine racks out at 290)

dumbell curls
35 x 10
40 x 8
45 x 6

reverse curls
70 x 10
80 x 8

behind back forearm curls
100 x 15
100 x 15
110 x 10

[roodogg]

I went to the NETS game last night and they lost a tough game. Anyway i'll be back at the gym tonight after a couple days off. Hopefully recharged. I will do the same chest workout and try to increase poundages

[roodogg]

I hit chest today and put up some new #'s

incline barbell
135 x 10
185 x 10
225 x 10
275 x 4 I could of done more,but I was so surprised that I did it so easily I stopped....don't ask

flat dumbell press
100 x 10
110 x 10
120 x 10

Hammer iso wide decline
270 x 10
360 x 10

flat dumbell fly
30 x 12
40 x 12
50 x 12