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    SD in bulk cycle!

    1-4 AD50 50mg ED
    1-12 Test-e 500mg EW
    1-12 HCG 250iu EOD,EOW
    1-12 L-Dex .25mg ED
    8-10 Superdrol 30mg ED
    11-12 Superdrol40mg ED
    PCT
    1-2 Nolva 40mg ED
    1-2 Clomi 100mg ED
    2-4 Nolva 20mg ED
    2-4 Clomi 50mg ED

    Ill be 20yrs old when i do this and 3.5yrs training 195lbs 15%bf. Could i run some SD into my cycle like this at the end without any more probs. I figured why not throw this in the supp section to see what u guys say about using SD in a cycle.
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    Didnt u post this yesterday?

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    I'd keep the SD dosage between 20-30mg. 40 seems a bit excessive. Also don't forget your cholesterol and bp supps. Niacin, fish oil, Vit C, hawthorne berry, policosanol, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainDominate
    Didnt u post this yesterday?
    I put the other 1 in the steroid Q and A

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg_28
    I'd keep the SD dosage between 20-30mg. 40 seems a bit excessive. Also don't forget your cholesterol and bp supps. Niacin, fish oil, Vit C, hawthorne berry, policosanol, etc.
    Oh yeah i got buy those 2

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    I put the other 1 in the steroid Q and A
    Ah i gotcha

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    ive only seen one other person use SD in a "real" cycle on another forum...not sure how he liked the results cause he was banned b4 the cycle was over ! but if i recall correctly he was using it at the end of his cycle like you

    not sure how SD wuld react in a "real" cycle, but like suggested 40mg mite be a bit too much! dont ferget all your proper support supps either!

    L-dex is letro rite? If so i kno that stuff can wreak havoc on your cholesterol levels..combine that w/ SD which wreaks havoc on cholesterol levels too and you mite b putting too much stress on yer body

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpstateTank
    ive only seen one other person use SD in a "real" cycle on another forum...not sure how he liked the results cause he was banned b4 the cycle was over ! but if i recall correctly he was using it at the end of his cycle like you

    not sure how SD wuld react in a "real" cycle, but like suggested 40mg mite be a bit too much! dont ferget all your proper support supps either!

    L-dex is letro rite? If so i kno that stuff can wreak havoc on your cholesterol levels..combine that w/ SD which wreaks havoc on cholesterol levels too and you mite b putting too much stress on yer body
    l-dex is arimidex .. but i agree with everything else

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawktribal
    l-dex is arimidex.. but i agree with everything else
    i tought a-dex was armidex...im CONFUSED


    either way a-dex is still harsh on cholesterol right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpstateTank
    i tought a-dex was armidex...im CONFUSED


    either way a-dex is still harsh on cholesterol right?
    I would assume so since it's an anti-aromtize enzyme, and the benefit of estrogen is improved cholesterol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg_28
    I would assume so since it's an anti-aromtize enzyme, and the benefit of estrogen is improved cholesterol.
    well tahts partly true..depending upon what kinda of AI it is

    from what I understand there are 2 types (i ferget the names of each)...but newayz stuff like armidex/letro act in a certain way vs other AI's like aromasin

    now I could be wrong in how im thinking of this but...

    AI's like letro work by literally nerfing all estrogen floating around your body thus preventing aromatization from occuring...no estrogen = negative effects on cholesterol

    An AI like aromasin works via binding to the aromataze enzyme, thus preventing aromatization from occuring...the kicker is that aromasin does NOT nerf estrogen floating about your blood stream...so the estrogen is there but it does not have ne thing to attach to, thus rendering aromasin "gentle" on cholesterol levels

    *someone correct me if im WRONG *

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpstateTank
    i tought a-dex was armidex...im CONFUSED


    either way a-dex is still harsh on cholesterol right?
    arimidex is also called a-dex, l-dex, and anastrozole so you weren't off

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpstateTank
    well tahts partly true..depending upon what kinda of AI it is

    from what I understand there are 2 types (i ferget the names of each)...but newayz stuff like armidex/letro act in a certain way vs other AI's like aromasin

    now I could be wrong in how im thinking of this but...

    AI's like letro work by literally nerfing all estrogen floating around your body thus preventing aromatization from occuring...no estrogen = negative effects on cholesterol

    An AI like aromasin works via binding to the aromataze enzyme, thus preventing aromatization from occuring...the kicker is that aromasin does NOT nerf estrogen floating about your blood stream...so the estrogen is there but it does not have ne thing to attach to, thus rendering aromasin "gentle" on cholesterol levels

    *someone correct me if im WRONG *
    no you're right about the AI's acting differently. i stole this from Anthony Roberts - it's a good quick read if you want to know the difference.

    To understand why Aromasin may be useful in conjunction with Nolvadex while both Letro and A-dex suffer reduced effectiveness, we’ll need to first understand the differences between a Type-I and Type-II Aromatase Inhibitor. Type I inhibitors (like Aromasin) are actually steroidal compounds, while type II inhibitors (like Letro and A-dex) are non-steroidal drugs. Hence, androgenic side effects are very possible with Type-I AIs, and they should probably be avoided by women. Of course, there are some similarities between the two types of AIs…both type I & type II AIs mimic normal substrates (essentially androgens), allowing them to compete with the substrate for access to the binding site on the aromatase enzyme. After this binding, the next step is where things differ greatly for the two different types of AI’s. In the case of a type-I AI, the noncompetitive inhibitor will bind, and the enzyme initiates a sequence of hydroxylation; this hydroxylation produces an unbreakable covalent bond between the inhibitor and the enzyme protein. Now, enzyme activity is permanently blocked; even if all unattached inhibitor is removed. Aromatase enzyme activity can only be restored by new enzyme synthesis. Now, on the other hand, competitive inhibitors, called type II AI’s, reversibly bind to the active enzyme site, and one of two things can happen: 1.) either no enzyme activity is triggered or 2.) the enzyme is somehow triggered without effect. The type II inhibitor can now actually disassociate from the binding site, eventually allowing renewed competition between the inhibitor and the substrate for binding to the site. This means that the effectiveness of competitive aromatase inhibitors depends on the relative concentrations and affinities of both the inhibitor and the substrate, while this is not so for noncompetitive inhibitors. Aromasin is a type-I inhibitor, meaning that once it has done its job, and deactivated the aromatase enzyme, we don’t need it anymore. Letrozole and Arimidex actually need to remain present to continue their effects. This is possibly why Nolvadex does not alter the pharmacokinetics of Aromasin (11).

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    ^ nice post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmidty
    1-4 AD50 50mg ED
    1-12 Test-e 500mg EW
    1-12 HCG 250iu EOD,EOW
    1-12 Exemestane.25mg ED
    8-10 Superdrol 20mg ED
    11-12 Superdrol30mg ED
    PCT
    1-2 Nolva 40mg ED
    1-2 Clomi 100mg ED
    2-4 Nolva 20mg ED
    2-4 Clomi 50mg ED

    Ill be 20yrs old when i do this and 3.5yrs training 195lbs 15%bf. Could i run some SD into my cycle like this at the end without any more probs. I figured why not throw this in the supp section to see what u guys say about using SD in a cycle.
    Im switching to extremestane and lower my SD mg
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    bump

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    yer gonna wanna take 25mg of exemestane per day, not .25--unless dats a typo!


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    schmidty since this is ur first cycle and considering ur liver problems why not stick to the test e?

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    i actually agree with notorious start off small on your first cycle esp if you have liver problems id stay away from orals

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    if you have liver problems bro you shouldnt even think about the orals. just chill, the cycle will be good enough. if its your first cycle, just do the test. no need for the SD

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    taking orals with liver problems is really gonna F you up

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    Sorry i didnt mean to bump this

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    so whats the verdict

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    no sd 4 me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmidty
    no sd 4 me
    good choice imo....

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    I guess ill just use a bunch of tren instead. HAHAHAH no im fvckin around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmidty
    I guess ill just use a bunch of tren instead. HAHAHAH no im fvckin around.
    lol

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