Anyone tried this stuff? Its a carb that is supposed to enter the body 80% faster than dextrose. I know some of the top pros are using this stuff post workout now. Its a bit expensive at 2$ per serving. Just wondering if anyone had tried it.
Anyone tried this stuff? Its a carb that is supposed to enter the body 80% faster than dextrose. I know some of the top pros are using this stuff post workout now. Its a bit expensive at 2$ per serving. Just wondering if anyone had tried it.
Nah, but it sounds like something that makes ya dizzy.
frignuga
Just did a lil search on it. Looking like a scam
# Absorbed 70% faster by the muscles than dextrose resulting in a quicker recovery rate from training.
# Non-Bloating
# Contains NO SUGAR
# Is the ULTIMATE Nutrient Transporter! Make your other supplements TWICE as effective
# Is the Ultimate Carb Loader, IDEAL for pre-contest carbloading
# Pulls more water into your muscles creating a fuller, rounder muscle belly
# RADICALLY INCREASE ENERGY!
# SPEED RECOVERY
# QUICKEST NUTRIENT TRANSPORTER AVAILABLE!
# FASTEST ABSORPTION ON THE MARKET!
# ULTIMATE MUSCLE GLYCOGEN LOADER!
Kinda sounds like a stupid add like muscletech, or Gakic or some shit
Also, the last Flex i was looking at, Cutler only used Muscle tech products to prepare for for the Olympia, i wonder if he used vitargo too?? hah
Maybe it has some truth to it...Id like to see some studies, evidence
Frigyo
I am using it for my precontest prep as a carb source...there are many people that use it-mostly pros.. it was recommended to me by another felllow BBer.
Vitagro is essentliay Waxy maize Starch if your buy the starch you don't need the support Team Ruhl lol...
... Waxy Maize Starch is derived from natural corn starch and is a food grade modified starch. It is very bland in flavor and has a white fluffy like consistency. We recommend using a shaker or a blender (this is best) to mix this product as it does not mix well. Immediate use is recommended as it has a tendency to clump. We have gone through great lengths testing and tweaking our Waxy Maize Starch to be palatable. We have found one that tastes fairly well and functionality wise it is top of the line.
So what’s so special with Waxy Maize in comparison to dextrose or maltodextrin? Many people have used a mix of dextrose and maltodextrin for post workout nutrition for years because it works and is vital for proper glycogen replenishment. Welcome to the new era of post workout nutrition… Waxy Maize Starch. WMS has a much higher molecular weight and a much lower osmolarity rate compared to dextrose or maltodextrin, so what does this mean… Mainly, WMS bypasses the stomach, is absorbed by the intestines and immediately is assimilated; this is all done at a much faster rate than dextrose or maltodextrin, almost double.
WMS can help the absorption rates of many of your favorite supplements like creatine monohydrate, creatine ethyl ester, cell volumization and nitric oxide type supplements, etc. Nutrients like this often times are left in the stomachs harsh acidic environment and degrade absorption rates. WMS helps shuttle these nutrients to bypass the stomach and allow the body to assimilate these nutrients at a much higher rate.
WMS has the ability to replenish the body’s glycogen stores much faster than a mix of maltodextrin or dextrose. This is accomplished again by WMS’s ability to bypass the stomach and go to the intestines for immediate absorption. WMS’s ability to shuttle all these nutrients and starch gives the body an immediate "pump" you can physically feel in your muscles post workout. You will see a much larger, fuller and rounder muscle belly.
Dextrose and maltodextrin can cause water retention and bloating, hence WMS’s popularity with pre contest and contest preparation carbohydrate replenishment. Many dieters choose WMS as their carb of choice as it is sugar free and an ideal source of a long chain complex carbohydrate.
We recommend starting with one 70 cc scoop post workout and see how your body responds.
Supplement Facts
Serving Size:~40 grams (70 cc scoop)
Servings Per Pound 11
Amounts Per Serving
Calories 160 Calories from fat 0
Total Fat 0g
Saturated Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0g
Sodium 0mg
Total Carbohydrates 38g
Dietary Fiber 0g
Sugar 1.5g
Protein 0g
Vitamin A 0%
Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 0%
Iron 0%
Thats kinda what I was looking at too Fez. I think Beast mentioned that he used waxy maize starch as carbs pwo. I'm currently getting about 40g protein, 40g dextrose and 40g maltodextrin. I get my pwo mixed up from an online distrubitor and maybe I will just substitute the waxy stach for carbs in my next order.
Are you currently using a waxy maize starch pwo?
I was recommend to me by a top BBer as well. He said basically most pros are using it now. But its like 10 buck per pound which as like 5-10 times what other carbs are gonna cost me.Originally Posted by getnjakked
I use WMS for PWO and think its brilliant. Buy it as a generic powder so you dont have to pay Vitargo prices on it. Trueprotein is the place to go my friend.
it still sounds like alota nothin to me. True it may give ya an increased absorbtion rate of carbs, but i dont see how its gonna help move your other supps past the stomach. that really mkaes no sense. im sure it can help their absorption once they are in the bloodstream sinch WMS probably gives a bigger insulin spike. And thats another thing...how would WMS not give you as much bloat as dex? So what if its not sugar? Your still gettin a big ass insulin spike(or bigger), and its the insulin the gives you the bloat anyway, as insulin has been shown to increase sodium production regardless of sodium intake. I just dont see how its that much superior during contest prep.
The subject has been floating around lately on other threads too. I've been using a mix of dex/wms/malto can't really tell too much of a difference. Next mix will be just WMS and then i'll hope to see if that makes any noticable effects. I say try it, see if it works for you.
insulin does not give the bloat at all. The bloating and uncomfortable cramps are all down to the bodies innability to handle large ammounts of Dex, though not everyone experiences these sides. Also dex causes a crash in energy where as WMS does not. It is not BS as I have used this product daily for the last year and found it to be far superior to dex in terms of both performance and sides ( I am one of the unlucky ones who get bloated with dex, and diaareah sometimes)Originally Posted by AnabolicBoy1981
I'm reading some of the shit posts above this (except for PerfectBeast) and rolling my eyes.
Man, WMS (product name Vitargo) is the shit. If you're ingesting dextrose or maltodextrin PWO, then you might as well be ingesting table sugar.
Do some personal research!! Look at the quality of the insulin spike caused by dextrose/maltodextrin and compare it with WMS. WMS is far more superior!!
WMS is waaaaaaaay more effective at transporting other nutrients (protein, creatine, glutamine, etc.) to ***leted muscles than any other carb.
Order it from trueprotein and customize your blend. Use it, eat right, train hard and watch your muscles grow.
This is 20+ years of lifting/supps experience (Div. I-A football and military) speaking, so give it some respect.
+1 for WMS
+1 for trueprotein
WMS is the best PWO product I have found, so far. And I do infuse it with BCAA and glutamine with the desire and intention it 'piggy backs' a bit with the WMS. I take it during the end of my workout or immediately after working out ***ending how I feel or how intense the training session was.
Vitargo is my fav creatine
Vitargo is a carb. I believe nutrex does make a product that includes vitargo and creatine.Originally Posted by justinandrews7
yes...vitargo CGL by nutrex is NOT the same as PURE VITARGO by professional supplements.
Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
Ordered mine there..thanks saved me some green, also got a good price on bcaa's.
I currently mix 1 scoop of powered oatmeal ( blender) to my PWO for carbs, gonna add the WMS, should i cut the oatmeaql out or leave it in. Thanks for the help
Interesting, lot of boys vouching for it, must be the real deal, I was wrong.
FrigNUGGA!!
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