M1T cycle while cutting?

[suprman09]

I plan to take M1T for 4 weeks at 10mg ED. I just recieved some nolva and clen so I was wondering if anyone has used m1t as a cutter? I was going to use clen for the first 2 weeks of the cycle, and then the first 2 weeks of PCT. I am about 5'11", 200lb, and 16%bf(estimate from calc).I was going to consume about 2400 calories which is about 500 under maintenence for me. Plan to do cardio 3-5 days a week with my HR at about 140 for 25 minutes. Have milk thistle, and am going to buy hawthorne and niacin for BP. Is it a waste to use the M1T while cutting or will I benefit from it? Any ideas? Thanks guys.

[androbolic_09]

The compound doesn't determine cutting or bulking, diet does. M1T will cause bloating, so use nolva throughout and during PCT, and use the clen afterwards to cut up. But just do a clean bulk with the M1T. But there are better things to use when cutting though.

[rar1015]

Why would you use m1t while cutting?

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

If you had to cut. Its mainly diet. I would save then clen for PCT. I would personally, bulk up while on, then cut down with clen on PCT.

You won't make as good weight gains, then again you wanna cut. As far as strength, it will go up alot.

[CSAR]

I wouldn't do it. Use the M1T in conjunction with a proper diet and do a clean bulk, followed by PCT and clen .

[Manpretty]

The compound doesn't determine cutting or bulking, diet does. M1T will cause bloating, so use nolva throughout and during PCT, and use the clen afterwards to cut up. But just do a clean bulk with the M1T. But there are better things to use when cutting though.

really? M1T causes bloat?????? no actually it doesn't!!!!!!!!

ive used M1t during a cut and loved it......its actually great for this because M1T reduces your appitite you will look lean with NO water weight.....

when i was on it i was able to reduce cals even lower and still maintain all of my mass... plus i was strong at shhitititit

[Manpretty]

ps audi's are garbage buy a Bimmer lol

[CSAR]

really? M1T causes bloat?????? no actually it doesn't!!!!!!!!

While the 5-alpha reduction of M1T prevents estrogen aromatization, it is believed that M1T-induced bloating/gyno are progesterone or prolactin induced. Nolvadex should help prevent/alleviate any gyno symptoms.

I have definitely gained a few pounds of water weight, however I have not experienced any gyno.

Strength-wise, M1T is the bomb. I did one-arm rows yesterday using 160 lb. dumbells for 5 controlled reps and 2 "ego" (cheating) reps. One month ago, I was using 275 for 4 reps on incline bench and now I'm using 305 for 6 reps. I'm also using 315 for 10 reps on rock-bottom Smith machine squats, whereas I could only use 225 before. M1T sides definitely suck, but it works!

[Manpretty]

[QUOTE=CSAR]While the 5-alpha reduction of M1T prevents estrogen aromatization, it is believed that M1T-induced bloating/gyno are progesterone or prolactin induced. Nolvadex should help prevent/alleviate any gyno symptoms.
QUOTE]

first off if what you are saying is in fact true.....how could nova alleviate bloating???

second off have you ever cut on M1? well i have more than once actually and never had any water weight.......

also could you explain how increased progesterone and prolactine increases water retention please?

[K.Biz]

The compound doesn't determine cutting or bulking, diet does. M1T will cause bloating, so use nolva throughout and during PCT, and use the clen afterwards to cut up. But just do a clean bulk with the M1T. But there are better things to use when cutting though.

M1t is androgenic but not enough to bloat someone like, say dbol . Also nolva is NOT needed during M1t. This is another 17aa that has been modified so it cannot aromatize. Nolva is not needed.

If you experience any type of water weight gain, which woudl happen VERY rarly, if at all. dont use nolva, use aromasin . it will help dry you out a lot better then nolva.


Cmon people use your heads. do your research before you give advice.

[juicy_brucy]

M1t is androgenic but not enough to bloat someone like, say dbol . Also nolva is NOT needed during M1t. This is another 17aa that has been modified so it cannot aromatize. Nolva is not needed.

If you experience any type of water weight gain, which woudl happen VERY rarly, if at all. dont use nolva, use aromasin . it will help dry you out a lot better then nolva.


Cmon people use your heads. do your research before you give advice.

Agreed, it doesn't bloat. Has anyone here run m1T before? Cause it isn't a bad compound like everyone says.
Also, IMO, 10mg ED is = to 0mg ed. 10mg ed just won't be enough.

[Manpretty]

M1t is androgenic but not enough to bloat someone like, say dbol . Also nolva is NOT needed during M1t. This is another 17aa that has been modified so it cannot aromatize. Nolva is not needed.

If you experience any type of water weight gain, which woudl happen VERY rarly, if at all. dont use nolva, use aromasin . it will help dry you out a lot better then nolva.


Cmon people use your heads. do your research before you give advice.

right on kbiz at least there is one person on this site that dosent talk out of his Ahole.....

this is what i was getting at!!!!! i just wanted to hear the explaination on that one from CZAR

[mike51183]

which one would be better for strength gain, superdrol or m1t?? im thinking of stacking one with 11-oxo for lean bulk