Best Thermogenic product

[steveo_r33]

Hey guys,

im looking for a thermogenic product to assist in burning off some extra fat while im on a clean bulk diet.

An opinions?

OH! i tried MuscleTECH THermogain..

Waste of ****ing money all it was was caffeine in a bottle

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

for fat burning, I like the ECA Stack myself.

ephedrine-25mg
caffeine-200mg
aspirin-81mg

Taken twice a day. Two weeks on, 2 weeks off, etc...

[steveo_r33]

for fat burning, I like the ECA Stack myself.

ephedrine-25mg
caffeine-200mg
aspirin-81mg

Taken twice a day. Two weeks on, 2 weeks off, etc...

are there any good thermo products out there i can buy online...

wont taking caffeine with creatine diminish its effects? sizeon isn't cheap lol