Will SD (clones) be effective on someone who has used M1T??

[Mogamedogz]

Sounds like a stupid question... But i know that with each cycle of m1t (and some of the old pro-hormones), the effectiveness of them was reduced.

Does the same hold true for SD? If you have done cycles of M1t in the past, will it reduce the effectiveness of SD?

[K.Biz]

It shouldnt, in theory. Its a completly different compound so your body should react to it differently. Methyl Testorsterone and Masteron are pretty different. I think your results on SD will be awsome, mabye not as great as M1t, but you'll def get less sides then m1t thats for sure.

[Mogamedogz]

Ive already crossed over... This question is for my bud who is not a "Computer geek" (his words), and relies on me to hook him up with info.

In my own personal experience with M1t, i didnt have any really bad sides... But I also didnt get any good gains from it either. I had to stack it with 4-ad to see anything. Dont know why.

I actually have a couple of bottles of M1t in my cabiniet... that i will prob end up throwing away tbh.

[Bradly1234]

ahhh dont throw them out! your a crazy man

[Mogamedogz]

ahhh dont throw them out! your a crazy man

They are expired anyway dude... Plus I will never use them. Especially since you cant find 4-ad anymore.

[K.Biz]

ill take em

actully no im done with the pro hrmones. its time for the dark side

[Warrior82]

the ph king trading in the phs huh....good luck young jedi master haha

[K.Biz]

the ph king trading in the phs huh....good luck young jedi master haha

hahaha

Hopfully someone will pick up the pace from here. I will obviously still research them and probably write more stickys on them since i actully enjoy learning about stuff like this. And if somthing amazing comes out mabye ill give it a go.

as I learned from the man, the myth, the legened, the banned, 'Upstate Tank' Other shall learn from me, and become just as knowledgable. I honestly have only been researching this stuff for a lil under a year now, its amazing what you can retain if you are interested.

[Mogamedogz]

hahaha

Hopfully someone will pick up the pace from here. I will obviously still research them and probably write more stickys on them since i actully enjoy learning about stuff like this. And if somthing amazing comes out mabye ill give it a go.

as I learned from the man, the myth, the legened, the banned, 'Upstate Tanked' Other shall learn from me, and become just as knowledgable. I honestly have only been researching this stuff for a lil under a year now, its amazing what you can retain if you are interested.

Dude...did you ever find anything that stacked good with the SD? (like 4-ad did with M1t??)

I know some people say phera-Plex.... but others say that it's garbo.

[K.Biz]

Dude...did you ever find anything that stacked good with the SD? (like 4-ad did with M1t??)

I know some people say phera-Plex.... but others say that it's garbo.

I would say SD is one of the few pro-hormonal compounds that should be run solo. unlike m1t that can be stacked with 4-as or PP that can be stacked with Winztrol, SD doesnt really have a significant other. Can PP be stacked with SD? yea sure. and some might see some great results from it, while others might see the sides out weigh the benefits, as I did. PP was not for me. and #12 can vouge for that as well.

but some people i have talked to LOVED PP, such as Notorious mem, who doesnt come around as often as he used to. but many have seen great results from PP, but my opinion is going to biased seeing it did really nothing but bloat me up and give me some shitty sides.

[Bradly1234]

They are expired anyway dude... Plus I will never use them. Especially since you cant find 4-ad anymore.

they work just fine, ive ran a 3 week cycle on exp m1t, no 4-ad just ALOT of carbs and support sups, then tomax/clomid pct. made good gains

[Bradly1234]

K-biz, did you do any research on the so called "new pros" havoc/oxevol/epi....ect, the list goes on

[Mogamedogz]

they work just fine, ive ran a 3 week cycle on exp m1t, no 4-ad just ALOT of carbs and support sups, then tomax/clomid pct. made good gains

m1t by itself never worked for me bro...

[Bradly1234]

1-ad was the best ph ive tryed, better then m1t. but why dident m1t work solo? lathargy to much or it just plain dident work?

[Mogamedogz]

1-ad was the best ph ive tryed, better then m1t. but why dident m1t work solo? lathargy to much or it just plain dident work?

Just plain didnt work... Tried it twice. No Sides, but no gains or power increase.

When i stacked it with 4-ad... WHAM! it worked wonders. Dont know why.

The best shit I used OTC was 19-nor stacked with some stuff called Mirabol, made by Syntrax. I got SICK gains from it.

[Squatman51]

i dont mean to hijack this thread but my question is, would steroids be less effective for me when i want to cross over at like 25, since i have done like 3 cycles of M1T when i was like 17 or 18 when it first came out and everyone said it was a supplement, not a steroid

[notorious_mem]

I would say SD is one of the few pro-hormonal compounds that should be run solo. unlike m1t that can be stacked with 4-as or PP that can be stacked with Winztrol, SD doesnt really have a significant other. Can PP be stacked with SD? yea sure. and some might see some great results from it, while others might see the sides out weigh the benefits, as I did. PP was not for me. and #12 can vouge for that as well.

but some people i have talked to LOVED PP, such as Notorious mem, who doesnt come around as often as he used to. but many have seen great results from PP, but my opinion is going to biased seeing it did really nothing but bloat me up and give me some shitty sides.

im still here brother just not quite the time i used too....lol

[notorious_mem]

i dont mean to hijack this thread but my question is, would steroids be less effective for me when i want to cross over at like 25, since i have done like 3 cycles of M1T when i was like 17 or 18 when it first came out and everyone said it was a supplement, not a steroid

m1t was a pro hormone not a supplement.But no roids wont be less effective for you now because of some prohormones from a few years ago.but remember educate before you medicate.

[Mogamedogz]

m1t was a pro hormone not a supplement.But no roids wont be less effective for you now because of some prohormones from a few years ago.but remember educate before you medicate.

I dont think M1t was a pro-hormone....but I could be wrong.

[notorious_mem]

well its not a supp like protein or vitamin c. If your questioning whether its a pro hormone or a steroid i hate these debates because as far as im concerned a pro hormone is a steroid..(pro hormone converts too a steroid once its injested)

[Bradly1234]

my rule of thumb is, if you need pct its a roid.

[Mogamedogz]

well its not a supp like protein or vitamin c. If your questioning whether its a pro hormone or a steroid i hate these debates because as far as im concerned a pro hormone is a steroid..(pro hormone converts too a steroid once its injested)

Thats the thing... i dont think it converts.... i think it is ALREADY test. im not debating that it is a steroid... just that it is a Pro-Hormone. I think there is a difference. im no expert.... so maybe one of the other guys can explain better.

[K.Biz]

Thats the thing... i dont think it converts.... i think it is ALREADY test. im not debating that it is a steroid... just that it is a Pro-Hormone. I think there is a difference. im no expert.... so maybe one of the other guys can explain better.

i think it was explained perfectly well, they modify the 17th carbon so that the body can process the steroid and it can be broken down by the liver. it is considered a pro-hormone before ingestion.

[Bradly1234]

how about methyl 1-alpha, i understand it converts to m1t upon ingestion so how does it later turn to test?