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    protein shake

    Hey guys,
    I take Mass XXX about three times a day. I work on a very tight schedule and cant eat like i would like to. However, almost everytime after i drink one, i have to run to the bathroom. Does this mean it is a waste, or is my stomach just getting full?

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    wrong forumn bro...i dont know what to tell u about runnin to the bathroom,but mass xxx is from gnc so there for its a waste

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    Quote Originally Posted by allout13 View Post
    Hey guys,
    I take Mass XXX about three times a day. I work on a very tight schedule and cant eat like i would like to. However, almost everytime after i drink one, i have to run to the bathroom. Does this mean it is a waste, or is my stomach just getting full?
    could be poor grade protein.

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    try a different one is that the first one you have tried?

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    usually if you start getting digestive problems (diherria etc) it means you should lighten up on the protein intake and eat some solid food instead of a shake.

    I used to get the runs pretty bad from having too many shakes

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    i look at it this way ... shakes are great for between meals .... should never be used for a meal .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pewntang
    i look at it this way ... shakes are great for between meals .... should never be used for a meal .....
    yeah, all i ever use my shakes for now is PWO and thats it.

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    you know you dont have to take the full serving every time. try half servings, and listen to your body.

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    a lotta times w/ my shakes, i'll put one less scoop in it, and add 3 raw eggs in it...this will get you just a little bit of whole food w/ your shakes...whole food is always better...when i first started drinking my shakes a few times a day, it did take my stomach a week or so to get used to the extra stuff in my body...then it started adapting

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    thanks guys. great information. i think im just gonna wait it out for a couple more days and take them in smaller dosages.
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by topnotch View Post
    a lotta times w/ my shakes, i'll put one less scoop in it, and add 3 raw eggs in it...this will get you just a little bit of whole food w/ your shakes...whole food is always better...when i first started drinking my shakes a few times a day, it did take my stomach a week or so to get used to the extra stuff in my body...then it started adapting
    only prob with the raw eggs is that you only absorb about half...

    allout are you having milk with your shakes? i used to have explosive shits real bad until i cut out the milk...

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    you only absorb half w/ raw eggs? why is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by topnotch View Post
    you only absorb half w/ raw eggs? why is that?
    cooked eggs are more bioavailable than raw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topnotch View Post
    you only absorb half w/ raw eggs? why is that?
    i dunno, but I've heard of that too. i've heard that the human stomach is better adapted to digesting cooked foods than raw foods. This also applies to rare meats

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    Quote Originally Posted by allout13 View Post
    Hey guys,
    I take Mass XXX about three times a day. I work on a very tight schedule and cant eat like i would like to. However, almost everytime after i drink one, i have to run to the bathroom. Does this mean it is a waste, or is my stomach just getting full?
    do you have lactose intollerance?

    do you use a probiotic?

    what grade of whey is in this product?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28 View Post
    i dunno, but I've heard of that too. i've heard that the human stomach is better adapted to digesting cooked foods than raw foods. This also applies to rare meats
    to my knowledge this is unique to eggs, actually. anytime you apply heat to a protein, it is somewhat denatured. the bonds are altered and the rate of assimilation can be altered, but only the bioavailibilty of eggs has been proven to improve.

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    Remember, frequent deposits are always an indication of malabsorption.


    This product lists 3 sources, though the print is off, what's with the quotes. Anyway, the fact that it's only $35 for 6lbs of powder, and has an extremely high cholestrol amt leads one to believe that it is mostly whey concentrate which is less absorbable. It also has a high sugar content, which would again hurt absorption.
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    i have issue with that label and believe there is an extra "(". calcium caseinate and soy isolate are 2 distinctively different things. soy is less bioavailable than whey, btw, but there are different grades of concentrate. it can be anything from wpc 30 to wpc 80. soy is cheaper than wpc 80 per kilo, but more expensive than wpc 30 per kilo. high grade wpc should not cause digestive issues with people who don't have problems digesting lactose normally.

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    it can also take some time for the bacteria that assist in digestion and absorbtion to become use to the increase in protein intake. You do not produce hydrogen sulfide on your own. The bacteria do, if your farts stink like rotten eggs then that could be the problem. That is if all the suggestions above dont pan out.

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    you can get these bacteria/enzymes from yogurt can't you?

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    yes and you can also buy probiotics in pill form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28 View Post
    you can get these bacteria/enzymes from yogurt can't you?
    If I remember right yogurt contains lactobacillus and acidodophilic (spelling) which breaks down lactose, thats why lactose intolerant individuals can eat yogurt without ill effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Succubus View Post
    yes and you can also buy probiotics in pill form.
    Ok, that's what I thought, thanks. Some protiens i can't handle too well in any case. Such as, the muscle tech brand causes way too many problems for me. One of the bests protiens i've used is the Isopure brand. No digestion problems i've come across from that...taste isn't great at all but that's thats only problem i've had with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Succubus View Post
    yes and you can also buy probiotics in pill form.
    +1 on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    If I remember right yogurt contains lactobacillus and acidodophilic (spelling) which breaks down lactose, thats why lactose intolerant individuals can eat yogurt without ill effect.
    yes, I have heard that it's recommended for people that are lactose intolerant to eat yogurt on a regular basis. Also, after you take a course of antibiotics to eat yogurt to replace the bacteria that might be killed off .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28 View Post
    yes, I have heard that it's recommended for people that are lactose intolerant to eat yogurt on a regular basis. Also, after you take a course of antibiotics to eat yogurt to replace the bacteria that might be killed off .
    Damn man you know your stuff, im impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    If I remember right yogurt contains lactobacillus and acidodophilic (spelling) which breaks down lactose, thats why lactose intolerant individuals can eat yogurt without ill effect.
    Those only impact absorption in a secondary capacity, as they are the friendly flora that fight bad bacteria along the intestinal wall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28 View Post
    Ok, that's what I thought, thanks. Some protiens i can't handle too well in any case. Such as, the muscle tech brand causes way too many problems for me. One of the bests protiens i've used is the Isopure brand. No digestion problems i've come across from that...taste isn't great at all but that's thats only problem i've had with it
    That's 100% whey isolate, the expensive/highly absorbable whey!
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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32 View Post
    Those only impact absorption in a secondary capacity, as they are the friendly flora that fight bad bacteria along the intestinal wall.

    True but they dont fight off bad bacteria, they out compete for space and nutrients. They live in a symbiotic relationship with us. They get a warm moist nutrient rich environment, we get the metabolic waste products of their metabolism such as digested proteins, vitamins and mineral absorbtion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Damn man you know your stuff, im impressed.
    thank you, i know a little just because i was in the medical field for a little while, had some experience in some things (hope you weren't kidding in that statement, lol)

    Quote Originally Posted by magic32 View Post


    That's 100% whey isolate, the expensive/highly absorbable whey!
    yes, it's def expensive but worth it in my opinion. Much better quality protiens and no other calories other than the protien also. Never had any digestion problems with it
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    you can find cold or cross filtered isolate for less than ion exchange isolate and it is less processed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Succubus View Post
    you can find cold or cross filtered isolate for less than ion exchange isolate and it is less processed.
    I know, but i've just found that isopure, Taste aside...., to be one of the better quality protiens i've ever tried. Also one of the easiest for your body to process

    this is My opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    True but they dont fight off bad bacteria, they out compete for space and nutrients. They live in a symbiotic relationship with us. They get a warm moist nutrient rich environment, we get the metabolic waste products of their metabolism such as digested proteins, vitamins and mineral absorbtion.
    A remarkable number of nutritionally knowledgeable individuals have no idea what acidophilus is or what it can do for them health wise. Few realize that acidophilus keeps the intestines clean, eliminates bad breath and flatulence, improves the complexion and reverses the intestinal damage caused by antibiotic treatment.

    Calcium deficiencies (which are extremely prevalent) can be swiftly relieved by using acidophilus milk or yogurt. The calcium in yogurt and acidophilus milk is already dissolved, hence it is more readily absorbed than in fresh milk. Plus many people, particularly elderly ones, tolerate cultured milks better than fresh.

    Gout also responds miraculously to acidophilus (milk, yogurt, or acidophilus culture). But acidophilus culture (in either powder, liquid or tablet form) is much stronger than yogurt and therefore vastly more effective for rapidly establishing a veritable army of friendly bacteria in the intestines. And who/what does army war with…

    …putrefaction (the decomposing of organic matter by unfriendly bacteria) in the intestines, and Diverticulosis (stagnant food or fecal matter in the colon and intestines) is common in the elderly and can be completely and permanently relieved by the regular use of acidophilus culture. Not only the middle-aged or elderly can benefit from acidophilus, however. Babies and young children who were give acidophilus will unquestionably maintain a higher degree of health throughout childhood and for the rest of their lives (providing friendly bacteria are established and maintained with acidophilus or yogurt).
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    i had a similar problem when i started using Muscle Milk protein but i just tougheditout and after about a week my body got regulated to it and im doing great now. Love muscle milk.

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