Novedex

**GGallin** · 02-09-2008, 06:32 PM

Ok I know Novedex is not a real steroid nor is it a proper tool for pct. But... does it really work at all as an anti E? I have clomid for my pct I was just wondering if it would hurt to take the Novedex during the cycle to combat estrogen. And yes its Novedex not Nolvadex . I know a lot of otc's like to mimick real supp names to confuse people. Your thoughts?

**GGallin** · 02-09-2008, 06:50 PM

sorry for the quick B U M P!

**GGallin** · 02-09-2008, 07:51 PM

Can I get a bump bump

**10nispro** · 02-09-2008, 07:53 PM

whats you cycle look like? arimidex works better if you are worried about bloat

**RapaciousShark** · 02-09-2008, 08:05 PM

ya know I got caught without any anti-Es and tried it out of desperation and it didn't do anything but give me heartburn and respiratory difficulty. In fact, when I told my supp guy i was trying to stall gyno he told me to lower the dose, like it was gonna make it worse or something. Dunno if it boosts test tho.

**GGallin** · 02-09-2008, 08:05 PM

500 ew test e, 250 mg ew sustamed, 50mg ed of winny and 250 ew of Eq

**ecto9** · 02-09-2008, 08:07 PM

I'd just go with straight Nolva from the board sponsor.

**N4cer** · 02-09-2008, 08:21 PM

You can use it. It's an AI.
But the problem is it isn't well understood and my hinder gains more than other AIs because it may block the actions of androgens to a degree. If you HAVE to use it, do. It works as an AI.

**Njord** · 02-09-2008, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by N4cer

You can use it. It's an AI.
But the problem is it isn't well understood and my hinder gains more than other AIs because it may block the actions of androgens to a degree. If you HAVE to use it, do. It works as an AI.

Have you ever used the stuff? I did a search on the AI ingredient:3, 17-keto-etiochol-triene, but all the info is linked back to the Novedex product.

**RapaciousShark** · 02-09-2008, 08:36 PM

the product blows imo, dont waste yer dough brothaman

**N4cer** · 02-09-2008, 08:43 PM

Yes, I've used it. You'll find info under it's common name: ATD.

**GGallin** · 02-09-2008, 09:06 PM

What is ATD?

**N4cer** · 02-09-2008, 09:37 PM

ATD is the active ingredient in Novedex.

**GGallin** · 02-09-2008, 09:40 PM

And it is an anti E?

**N4cer** · 02-09-2008, 09:42 PM

I don't know why you keep saying "anti-E". That leaves a lot open. What kind of anti-e are you saying? There are 2 types. SERMs, and AIs. ATD is an AI, and it is the active ingredient in Novedex.

**GGallin** · 02-09-2008, 09:45 PM

Well it claims to be an AI

**N4cer** · 02-09-2008, 09:48 PM

Exactly. It is. That's what I've said. Have you read the thread? I'm lost with your questions bro. I'm sorry. Just feel like I'm restating the obvious.

**GGallin** · 02-09-2008, 09:54 PM

My main question was weather or not it did what it said it did. I mis spoke and called it an anti e. I just happen to work at a supplement store and its on sale on top of my 30% off so I just wanted to know if I made a good choice in purchasing it. I had never taken an AI during a cycle and wasnt sure if this stuff was worth a squirt of piss or not.

**Big** · 02-09-2008, 09:54 PM

Why test e and sustamed together?

**N4cer** · 02-09-2008, 09:59 PM

Like I said, read up on ATD. It works as an AI very well. But as I said, some speculate it to be an androgen receptor antagonist in muscle cells, which is very bad.

**GGallin** · 02-09-2008, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Big

Why test e and sustamed together?

I was told it would be good to mix since the sust would work quicker and then the Test e would kick in later. Also I could get 750mg of test ew instead of my usual 500mg. Will mixing the 2 affect me health wise?

**admirals56** · 02-09-2008, 10:06 PM

no test is test it would of been more benifial to use prop or dbol as a kickstart instead of buying sus

**Big** · 02-09-2008, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by GGallin

I was told it would be good to mix since the sust would work quicker and then the Test e would kick in later. Also I could get 750mg of test ew instead of my usual 500mg. Will mixing the 2 affect me health wise?

Nope, no negative effects, just wondered why.

**GGallin** · 02-09-2008, 10:10 PM

No biggie, the sust was cheap enough. I am just trying new things I had not tried before. I know my dose of Eq is rather low but I might as well finnish it off. My last cycle I mixed liquid winny with the tabs and had great strength gains, I maxed out on bench at 455LBS. I barely have put up 405 this time around but I am only 5 1/2 weeks in so far and I gave myself a hernia about a week ago

**GGallin** · 02-09-2008, 10:14 PM

Is 750mg a week too high of dose for test?

**admirals56** · 02-09-2008, 10:27 PM

no there are member that have ran over 3-4g of test

**GGallin** · 02-09-2008, 10:47 PM

That sounds like over-kill but to each his own. i will try to keep mine below 750mg.

**N4cer** · 02-09-2008, 10:50 PM

Ouch man. Sorry to hear about the hernia. You're a strong guy for sure! I've never had the strength I wish I had.

**GGallin** · 02-09-2008, 11:25 PM

Yeah it wasnt in my groin, it is in my belly button. I assume thats better than in the groin. Now I have to lift light until after this cycle is over and then I will get the hernia fixed. Oh well my only goal is to be cut by summer. I am looking to get under 10% bodyfat for the first time ever.